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Billy_boy_2010

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Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« on: January 13, 2017, 10:02:56 PM »

Hi guys

I'm considering putting one of the above in my new s800. It's a tiny wing so it won't like the wind......the above may make it more flyable.....

However- some flight stabilisers fight you to keep the plane flat and level at all times. Great for a straight line mission- a nightmare more sport flying and fun carving turns- feels so unnatural.

So- is the above likely to fight manual inputs and make for a very unnatural experience? Or will it work with the manual controls like the eagle tree stuff does?

Any advice would be great thanks :)
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 10:57:32 PM »

Hi guys

I'm considering putting one of the above in my new s800. It's a tiny wing so it won't like the wind......the above may make it more flyable.....

However- some flight stabilisers fight you to keep the plane flat and level at all times. Great for a straight line mission- a nightmare more sport flying and fun carving turns- feels so unnatural.

So- is the above likely to fight manual inputs and make for a very unnatural experience? Or will it work with the manual controls like the eagle tree stuff does?

Any advice would be great thanks :)
Don't worry they don't affect your inputs.
They just react momentarily to gusts etc and don't provide self levelling like the more expensive Eagle tree types.
You can switch them on and off too.
I use one in my Skipper XL and have had many in other aircraft , they're well worth the 10 quid or so . ;)
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 11:23:44 PM »

Ok- so let's say Im banking at 45 degrees- will the stab try to level the plane constantly? That's how my mfd autopilot in stab mode would try and do. Felt very unnatural.
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 11:32:23 PM »

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1794672-Open-Flight-Stabilizer
You may be interested in the above thread. Its a bit long at over 270 pages but the first page tells you where its currently at. Follow that with a quick scan read to decide yes or no. The changes detail improvements to the standard unit by, for example, making the pots less sensitive etc. You would of course have to re flash the firmware and possibly add a wire or two, all well documented.
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 11:38:25 PM »

No, it will try to keep it at 45 degrees, and just take out the fluctuations... I hope...
That sounds wrong about your MFD, not that I've ever used one, but it's nonsensical if it tries to level your plane when you have stick input..
Interesting thought though.
Beware these things greatly increase the wear & tear on your servos..instead of the plane flapping about in the wind, the servos are continually flapping about trying to compensate. Higher LiPo drain too.
Probably...
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Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 12:42:22 PM »

Yes I have used one which I got for 20 euro off eBay. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised just how good it worked.

The idea of a stabiliser is to keep the aircraft level. The best place for it is right on the C of G and your plane already flys straight as you have trimmed it properly in manual mode.

All the time you have stick input, i.e. you are banking,  it will not level the plane, it will try and keep the plane level when you are off the sticks.

I also found that you only need about 55% on the adjustable pods. Anything over and the plane is all over the place.


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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 01:03:27 PM »

I have one of these units and it is a help in wind. I agree that the pots gain do not want to be too high. If you set the gain high then the plane starts to flap about. If that happens just switch it off and adjust after landing.
For 10/15 its worth having a go.
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 04:34:50 PM »

I used a couple of orange stabilizers, they are ok... but then I tried the CC3D Atom flight controller, OK you need to fiddle a bit with setup and tweak it for your airframe,
I particularly enjoy the Rattitude setting... you have the benefits of stab but the enjoyment of stirring the sticks to the limit  ;)
Once you go above the pre-set threshold the CC3D accepts your stick commands to loop and roll  :laugh: and when you centre sticks it returns to perfect level stab flight  :)
a bit of learning curve but open pilot or libre pilot will guide you there, my only grip with it is the setting up when you go full throttle, you have to tweak it so it doesn't go up like a home sick angel,

Hope this help.

Regards RBS   
« Last Edit: January 14, 2017, 04:38:33 PM by RayBlueSky »
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 04:40:58 PM »

brilliant info thanks guys- will give it a go I think!
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2017, 04:50:56 PM »

The CC3D Atom is about 12 quid from Banggood.com
its not a combined receiver and stab,
I use the Atom with CppM orange receivers and they work well together  :)
Some say its oldech but it works for me because lots of people have used them and I have learned from their knowledge

Regards RBS
 
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 04:55:18 PM »

The CC3D Atom is about 12 quid from Banggood.com
its not a combined receiver and stab,
I use the Atom with CppM orange receivers and they work well together  :)
Some say its oldech but it works for me because lots of people have used them and I have learned from their knowledge

Regards RBS
 

Cheers Ray.... off topic but looking for an ideal mini wing Flight controller....  :D
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2017, 05:08:03 PM »

In all fairness Billy, I think you should concentrate on putting in more practice LOS flying instead of relying on a stabilisation unit to do the hard work for you.

I mean, what if the stabilisation unit fails and it's really windy and, say, the plane is over your head really high up... I mean, it's going to be really hard to land that plane even WITH stabilisation so now yours has failed I would imagine you'd have no chance.

I say, learn to cope with the windy conditions and learn to fly your wing so you can safely control it no matter what the weather.
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2017, 05:15:54 PM »

In all fairness Billy, I think you should concentrate on putting in more practice LOS flying instead of relying on a stabilisation unit to do the hard work for you.

I mean, what if the stabilisation unit fails and it's really windy and, say, the plane is over your head really high up... I mean, it's going to be really hard to land that plane even WITH stabilisation so now yours has failed I would imagine you'd have no chance.

I say, learn to cope with the windy conditions and learn to fly your wing so you can safely control it no matter what the weather.
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Re: Anyone used orange 3 axis flight stabiliser?
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2017, 10:40:43 AM »

In all fairness Billy, I think you should concentrate on putting in more practice LOS flying instead of relying on a stabilisation unit to do the hard work for you.

I mean, what if the stabilisation unit fails and it's really windy and, say, the plane is over your head really high up... I mean, it's going to be really hard to land that plane even WITH stabilisation so now yours has failed I would imagine you'd have no chance.

I say, learn to cope with the windy conditions and learn to fly your wing so you can safely control it no matter what the weather.

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