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Author Topic: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?  (Read 2765 times)

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Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« on: June 08, 2018, 03:53:17 PM »

Hello,

I am currently saving to buy myself a racing quad.  I already own a phantom 4 but im looking for something more exiting i guess ;D
I'm struggling to find anything set in stone to if i can fly with FPV goggles on whilst im flying a racing quad in the UK
Just curious if somebody can point me in the right direction regarding this, because i don't want to break any laws ETC.

Many thanks,
     James Bradman
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2018, 03:58:59 PM »

Yes, if you have someone with you to act as a spotter.  In practice, just be sensible.
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2018, 04:28:49 PM »

Ah i see, so if i have a 'spotter', i am okay to fly full fpv with goggles?
Sorry to ask so much im just a bit overly cautious with this kind of stuff  ;D
Thanks!
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2018, 04:50:08 PM »

Well technically they're supposed to be a "competent observer" who can take control in the event that you get disorientated.... but as Loopdreams says, just be sensible.
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2018, 04:52:31 PM »

Yes, a spotter.  Whilst I wouldn't encourage anyone to break the rules, in 99.9% of all my flights I'm on my own.  But I'm also in a field to myself away from anyone else or their property, so y'know whatever :)

That said, if you've never flown an race-style quad before, it's really really handy to have a spotter with you.  Aside from being able to guide you around if you become disorientated,  there's nothing worse than taking off your goggles, seeing a field full of long grass and wondering just where in the hell you crashed.  So if you have one available, drag them along with you.

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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2018, 05:27:31 PM »

While saving it might help to get a simulator and connect your tx to it. That way you can practice as much as you can no matter what time of day or weather outside.
I use FPVFreerider (it has a free version to test but full one is about 6). then a universal 7in1 tx to usb cable to connect my FlySky i6 to my laptop.
You can set to fpv and Rate/acro mode and away you go..

Have fun.
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2018, 10:13:22 PM »

While saving it might help to get a simulator and connect your tx to it. That way you can practice as much as you can no matter what time of day or weather outside.
I use FPVFreerider (it has a free version to test but full one is about 6). then a universal 7in1 tx to usb cable to connect my FlySky i6 to my laptop.
You can set to fpv and Rate/acro mode and away you go..

Have fun.

If you get Drone magazine on 5th July (or somewhere around that time) you might see my round up on how Freerider, LiftOff and Velocidrone stack up as learning tools.

Spoiler alert: Velocidrone wins, Freerider comes last.  But as far as learning the basics, they all work well enough

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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2018, 11:09:14 PM »

If you get Drone magazine on 5th July (or somewhere around that time) you might see my round up on how Freerider, LiftOff and Velocidrone stack up as learning tools.

Spoiler alert: Velocidrone wins, Freerider comes last.  But as far as learning the basics, they all work well enough
That's good to know. FPVFreerider is good for me as Velocidrone wont run on my laptop. Might give Velocidrone a go on desktop. I do like the idea of BetaFlight setup screens same as on real quad.
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2018, 11:06:19 AM »

And if you have GTA 5 on PC there's a quadcopter mod which, coupled with the open world (and all of the obstacles and stuff in the game) makes it amazing.

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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 11:50:57 AM »

Hello,

I am currently saving to buy myself a racing quad.  I already own a phantom 4 but im looking for something more exiting i guess ;D
I'm struggling to find anything set in stone to if i can fly with FPV goggles on whilst im flying a racing quad in the UK
Just curious if somebody can point me in the right direction regarding this, because i don't want to break any laws ETC.

Many thanks,
     James Bradman

You will find the necessary information on regulation in the following documents :

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?appid=11&mode=detail&id=5631

Chapter 6 pp 9 & 10 deal with FPV, but the whole document is worth being familiar with. Do not despair about the apparent restrictions on FPV as there is an exemption to the use of a buddybox.

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?appid=11&mode=detail&id=7891

This is where you will find reference to the competent observer.

Please be aware that an amendment to the Air Navigation Order is due in July. At his time we do not know exactly how that will affect regulation of model flying including FPV.
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2018, 02:05:45 PM »

Velocidrone wins, Freerider comes last.

The opposite for me ;)

Ive always got on really well with Freerider. I like the way I can just jump on and have a blast around with no messing about.
Admittedly, I only ever ran the trial version of Velocidrone and it felt too much like a game so it really wasnt for me.

It all depends on what you want from a 'sim' I suppose :)
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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2018, 03:02:17 PM »

Well, it's very much to personal taste, but Freerider - to me at least - whilst fine for learning the basics of flight really falls apart when you ask it to do any sort of fast acro flying.  Ther's no super-rate and the roll feels all wrong.  It also doesn't seem to carry any of the quad inertia forwards.  So if you are scooting along fast and you pop up, invert and take the throttle off, then you just stop travelling forwards.  Also the fact that they've implemented their own idea of rates makes it difficult to relate to a real quad.

However, on Freeriders side is the fact that it's dirt cheap, you can run full resolution and full details on a very modest machine, and it's very fast to jump in and go.

The reason I chose Velocidrone as the winner, is that it felt like flying one of my quads.  LiftOff is very good, and does a lot of things the best - it's also very very pretty.  But the handling isn't quite there - it's just a bit off.  Quads feel well weightly - although it's hard to put my finger on exactly what.

It's only when I compared 3 of them against one another that the differences became very apparent.

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Re: Can i fly with FPV goggles in the uk?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2018, 03:48:15 PM »

Well, it's very much to personal taste, but Freerider - to me at least - whilst fine for learning the basics of flight really falls apart when you ask it to do any sort of fast acro flying.  Ther's no super-rate and the roll feels all wrong.  It also doesn't seem to carry any of the quad inertia forwards.  So if you are scooting along fast and you pop up, invert and take the throttle off, then you just stop travelling forwards.  Also the fact that they've implemented their own idea of rates makes it difficult to relate to a real quad.

However, on Freeriders side is the fact that it's dirt cheap, you can run full resolution and full details on a very modest machine, and it's very fast to jump in and go.

The reason I chose Velocidrone as the winner, is that it felt like flying one of my quads.  LiftOff is very good, and does a lot of things the best - it's also very very pretty.  But the handling isn't quite there - it's just a bit off.  Quads feel well weightly - although it's hard to put my finger on exactly what.

It's only when I compared 3 of them against one another that the differences became very apparent.
Cheers. I will give Velocidrone another go as it would be helpful to have the sim perform more like real life.
I do like how quick Freerider is to load and play. Velocidrone does take an age, well it does on my laptop. Seems like tweeking all settings down to minimum it will actually run on laptop. Now just to get my tx to work. Seems to work in the calibration section but nothing when trying to 'race' Oh well I will have a play later, have to do gardening now :-(
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