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New European UAS Regulations
« on: June 21, 2019, 02:23:44 PM »

WOW!
I have so far only managed to skim through these but most people (self included and I work with aviation regulation) will find it quite heavy going.

Some things immediately struck me.

"A key element of the Open category is that any unmanned aircraft that are sold for use within this category will also be subject to a set of product standards, similar to the ‘CE’ marking scheme"
"The full details of the product standards for each class are set out in the Annex to the Delegated Regulation and include a requirement to include an EASA published information leaflet in the packaging which simply describes the applicable limitations and obligations under EU law in the form of a ‘do’ and don’t’ list. Remember, these standards only apply to unmanned aircraft that are intended to be sold in the EU market, either fully assembled or in kit form.

The focus is very much on manufactured unmanned aircraft. Inevitably the requirement to shoe compliance, through produce testing and certification will drive up cost. The alternative of course will be to simple slap on a bogus sticker, which is what sometimes happens now.

Definitions.
This is simply a listing of the meanings of the terms used within the regulation which are not adequately covered by the traditional dictionary meaning. p13

A traditional dictionary has several definitions of drone but only recently have online dictionaries started to include small unmanned aircraft wthin their definition. There are 8 references within the document to drones without offering a definition other than to link them to multi copters. Most of us who are savvy know that not all multi copters have as advanced flight controllers as a Phantom or Mavic and that fixed wing can be fitted with very sophisticated flight controllers.

Article 16 - Operations under the framework of model aircraft clubs and associations.
Another important article to take note of. Efforts to either define or exclude ‘model aircraft’ from the proposed regulations have proved to be troublesome to achieve in a simple and straightforward manner. This article is therefore intended to offer a sanctuary to the ‘traditional’ model aircraft enthusiasts and provide them with an avenue for continued operation, via the cover of their existing model clubs or associations. This is through the ‘umbrella’ of a separate ‘authorisation’ within the Specific category, which could essentially allow them to continue operating as they currently do (which is openly recognised as being safe), without being restricted by other requirements within the regulations which are clearly directed at the manufacture and use of the ‘drone’ type devices. The details of what will actually be contained within this authorisation will need to be discussed further.

About the only good news I can see.

Registration
Operators are required to register when they operate an unmanned aircraft that is less than 250g in mass if it:
is equipped with a sensor that can capture personal data (i.e. a camera or ‘listening device’), unless it is classed as a toy, or:
is able to transfer a kinetic energy of more than 80 Joules to a human in the event of a collision (i.e. it may be small and light, but it can be flown at high speed)

So it appears that going sub 250g may not get you out of registration.

Speeds - there is a lot of reference to speed but as we all know there is airspeed and ground speed. With fixed wing the important thing is airspeed. You can appear to fly backwards in a strong enough wind. So is it airspeed or ground speed.

If all else fails you might gain something from the final page summary. Good luck.

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP1789%20EU%20UAS%20Regulations-Guidance.pdf
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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2019, 09:44:18 AM »

So if I’ve got this right:
All model kits sold in areas controlled by EASA, ie UK, will have to comply to CE testing and quality control and have the appropriate labelling and info included?

We as a country have decided not to recognise Article 16?

There is still confusion existing in the registration program as to what constitutes an operator and therefore what individuals register as.

My colleague was told during his beta testing section that the BBC alone are budgeting for 5000 camera equipped quadcopters.
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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 01:25:20 PM »

Thought I'd post this for every ones delight and delectation.. Lots not set but indicates the direction of travel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyd6CK4MU20&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0t7Qr9HRoUg837p_aEz9xVvn5jjVFEn2FBK4-cf8Z7uW0ArCQMDnolY5w
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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 02:29:30 PM »

Oh good, a "Certificate of Competency" next year too, with an additional 30 questions to be taken at a test centre.

Great news.
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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 10:36:08 PM »

  By the time the EU jobsworths have finished with their CE demands, China won't bother trying to sell us any "Drones" at all. I mean just look at the trouble and confusion they caused FrSky and their ridiculous LBT bollocks..?
  Meantime of course, the rest of the Globe had to make do with the "dangerous" FCC Firmware, weird how nobody has any problems with it isnt it?
  LBT Firmware will never be allowed to infect my Taranis, I dont care what they do.  So pleased we are leaving the EU.

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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2019, 11:09:58 AM »

LBT Firmware will never be allowed to infect my Taranis, I dont care what they do.  So pleased we are leaving the EU.

Had no choice with my Spektrum TX, now Ive got a load of receivers I cant use :(
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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 09:58:29 AM »

Had no choice with my Spektrum TX, now Ive got a load of receivers I cant use :(

  Why...?...are they infected with LBT too...?

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Re: New European UAS Regulations
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 04:26:34 PM »

  Why...?...are they infected with LBT too...?

Yep >:(

This means I cant use any of my DSM2 receivers anymore :+
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