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Re: Drone and model aircraft registration - latest.
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2019, 09:35:04 AM »

 Dry interesting, however, the DMARES is a legal requirement, it will be a personal choice whether to comply or not, just like RFL, Compulsory Vehicle Insurance and paying the council tax and Child Support.  The current backlash from the modelling community itís a storm in a tea cup compared to what will happen in July 2020. Last night I attended a club AGM, 34 members turned up, average age 60, 80% had no proper idea of Exemption Certs, no idea if they need to put reg numbers on planes they keep in storage, if grandkids needed to register, some even assumed that the BMFA would just do everything without being told to etc etc.

PLUS 100% new nothing about CAP 1789. http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP1789%20EU%20UAS%20Regulations-Guidance.pdf
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Re: Drone and model aircraft registration - latest.
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2019, 09:52:33 AM »

BigT, so how many of these do you think will stay in the hobby once the reality hits them? Then how many after they are hit by the reality of July 2020? Lastly, of the remaining few how many will stay once they see what's coming in 2022? Plus, to these disincentives one must add the undoubted increases in registration fees(model tax) that will add to the reduction in modelers. IMO it will be a gradual decline followed by a collapse as the numbers fall below the critical number required to sustain the hobby, both in clubs and retail.
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Drone and model aircraft registration - latest.
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2019, 02:20:34 PM »

We have to remember we dont know what the reality of June next year is Artucle 16 of the EASA regs effectively means with the exception of registration it is possible, and i would syggest even probably that model flying in clubs is barely effected.

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Re: Drone and model aircraft registration - latest.
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2019, 07:34:22 PM »

BigT, so how many of these do you think will stay in the hobby once the reality hits them? Then how many after they are hit by the reality of July 2020? Lastly, of the remaining few how many will stay once they see what's coming in 2022? Plus, to these disincentives one must add the undoubted increases in registration fees(model tax) that will add to the reduction in modelers. IMO it will be a gradual decline followed by a collapse as the numbers fall below the critical number required to sustain the hobby, both in clubs and retail.

I have a real feeling that you are correct. If you look at the demographics of the hobby its dying already, literally. At our AGM on Thursday we had 34 out 40 members present. The youngest was 55 the oldest 75 and this is a club that welcomes all and sundry from autogyros and hovercraft and over 7kg fixed wing, with a private site with hut and charging points etc.  As I explained the intricacy of the registration, exemption certificates, July 2020, etc I was met with puzzled looks. In 3 years I will be 70, I am still trying new things and will try not to give up but what do we do if club sites have to be certified by the CAA to determine what can be flown and by whom? Perhaps model flying will continue as we know it. I fly a bit in Germany and France and I can tell you its so different over there. All the clubs we fly at have hard and grass runways, get subbed by the local councils, brick club houses, flush toilets, electricity. Membership is cheaper than the UK. Our small club here is £178 p a including BMFA, thats abiut average in the Home Counties. About double the average in Germany and France.

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following the total confusion with exemptions and delayed registration through the BMFA etc and because I am a BMFA examiner and fly at public displays I elected to not delay, registered and took the really silly on line test. Job done.

 
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Re: Drone and model aircraft registration - latest.
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2019, 08:21:39 PM »

The CAA's recently published plan for their 'final solution' to recreational drone flying. (download the .pdf)
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?catid=1&pagetype=65&appid=11&mode=detail&id=9307
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Re: Drone and model aircraft registration - latest.
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2019, 08:44:58 PM »

The CAA's recently published plan for their 'final solution' to recreational drone flying. (download the .pdf)
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?catid=1&pagetype=65&appid=11&mode=detail&id=9307
Cheers for posting. I found that clear as mud......
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