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Title: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 14, 2013, 05:02:20 PM
Hi Guys,
rob at flyingwings.co.uk has sent out a falcon flying wing prototype for me to test.
in this thread you can follow the build and also the flights to come once everything is ready to rock and roll!
Thanks to rob for providing the wing i am honoured to be asked to carry out the testing.
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: fpsazerbaijan on May 14, 2013, 05:14:20 PM
Pics pics pics!  ;D
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: foamster on May 14, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Hi Guys,

The 4 test planes were sent on Friday, sorry for little coms, it was mad busy and i have just come back from Yorkshire slope soaring, nothing like freezing rain going up your jacksy at 45mph. I came 4th again in the flyingwings challenge trophy, beaten by a 9 year old  :laugh:

I did not get a chance to finish the Gopro cradle but this can be added later.

the Falcon flies great, but it would nice to see some alternative power setups, maybe a duration challenge ?

The instructions are just a basic guide only

If someone who requested a sample, but did not get one, let me know, they went interlink and are trackable.

All the best Rob
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: dogzilla on May 14, 2013, 06:24:07 PM
For the love of all that is holy someone post a pic of what this looks like and give us information in terms of power setup, battery, AUW, etc..
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 14, 2013, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: foamster on May 14, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Hi Guys,

The 4 test planes were sent on Friday, sorry for little coms, it was mad busy and i have just come back from Yorkshire slope soaring, nothing like freezing rain going up your jacksy at 45mph. I came 4th again in the flyingwings challenge trophy, beaten by a 9 year old  :laugh:

I did not get a chance to finish the Gopro cradle but this can be added later.

the Falcon flies great, but it would nice to see some alternative power setups, maybe a duration challenge ?

The instructions are just a basic guide only

If someone who requested a sample, but did not get one, let me know, they went interlink and are trackable.

All the best Rob
hi rob.
have tryed calling you but no answer on the phone do you have a email.
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: Brucey on May 14, 2013, 06:32:07 PM
Lol nothing like getting beat by a nine year old!
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: philf on May 14, 2013, 08:55:49 PM
Thanks Rob from me also, this is mine so far.....
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 14, 2013, 09:14:17 PM
picture 1:
The two half es on the wing ready for Assembly.
(http://s23.postimg.org/69atpb1yv/IMAG0058.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/69atpb1yv/)
picture 2:
two half es of the wing now glued together.
(http://s23.postimg.org/3mvb8darb/IMAG0059.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3mvb8darb/)
picture 3:
carbon strip installed to strengthen the wing!
(http://s23.postimg.org/4nvjxhrqv/IMAG0060.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4nvjxhrqv/)
picture 4: motormount attached to wing.
(http://s23.postimg.org/g2s12443b/IMAG0061.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/g2s12443b/)
picture 5:sadly the wing is not big enough to cut a bay for a 3cell and it sit flush it is slightly raised.
(http://s23.postimg.org/6ksa22iev/IMAG0063.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6ksa22iev/)
picture 6:Battery bay
(http://s23.postimg.org/8lnf0n3xz/IMAG0064.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8lnf0n3xz/)
picture 7:ply bottom installed.
(http://s23.postimg.org/3yhcyvgl3/IMAG0065.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3yhcyvgl3/)
picture 8:ply motor mount installed
(http://s23.postimg.org/5augn0omv/IMAG0066.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5augn0omv/)
picture 9:control rods assembled ready to install servos.
(http://s23.postimg.org/gbu75s69j/IMAG0067.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gbu75s69j/)

That's all for now guys..... next up is the electric components which once i pick my servos up from Si will be all sorted :)
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: FPVSteve on May 14, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
errrr... aren't you supposed to place things and check CoG before cutting? battery bay is the last thing to do isn't it?
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 14, 2013, 09:41:12 PM
already had some other servos laid out ect...same make servos just not the ones im using.
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: dogzilla on May 14, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
So it's a wing that's bigger than the raven but smaller than the slipstream?
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 14, 2013, 10:05:59 PM
sorry i cant comment on either of them two planes :)
im sure somebody will be along soon who can :)
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: Teamftp on May 14, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
Thats looking great that mate. Let me know if you need any laser cut shizzle doing and will sort for you.
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 14, 2013, 10:22:34 PM
sweet cheers.
i may need abit of help with a few other bits.....
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: philf on May 14, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
There you go...
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: foamster on May 15, 2013, 06:33:29 PM
Way to go Liam,

You can cut the foam battery bay, all the way to the ply plate, enough space for a 3 cell, my turnigy 3S fits flush, with velcro strap like the raven.

The Falcon is 40" or 1 metre but with a bigger wing area than the Slipstream and unlike the slippy it does not require covering all over making it super fast building. It feels very light to fly, almost asks for more weight on it.

Nice work, don't forget some colour on it  ;D

i am working on the gopro mount, i will post some ideas for you, soon

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 15, 2013, 06:41:55 PM
Sweet rob !!
This baby will be painted up soon!!
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: ROVguy on May 17, 2013, 11:57:03 PM
It will be good to see it in action with my Venturi Liam!
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: Brucey on May 18, 2013, 08:09:54 AM
Looking good ROVGuy
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: philf on May 19, 2013, 07:38:11 PM
Flew the Falcon FPV today and was very pleased with the results. Very stable and easy to fly!
The setup I used.....2200kv motor, 30amp ESC, 2200mAh 3s lipo. Going to try another motor this week if the weather allows. If the vid is any good I'll upload soon.
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: foamster on May 19, 2013, 08:54:36 PM
Nice one Phil,

I am going to try a 2 cell setup, 3300mah and move up to a 7" prop from current 3S 2200mah on a 6" prop, should get great duration, maybe 30 mins.

Did the Falcon feel that it could take more payload ?

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: philf on May 19, 2013, 11:06:21 PM
Rob,
I'm sure it would comfortably carry more weight...but I like the way it feels as it is. I was also thinking of a similar setup with a 2000kv motor and 2s so the weight should be very similar.
I extended the ply underside all the way to the trailing edge as I thought it would stiffen up the centre section after cutting out the component bay and I also reinforced the control surfaces with good old cross weave.
Did you have any luck with the camera we discussed?
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on May 19, 2013, 11:14:47 PM
when my servos have been retunred mine will be up too :)
i am putting a 220kv motor on there so should be pritty decent :)
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: philf on May 31, 2013, 08:08:35 PM
Tried a few different setups...this is the current one which seems to work well
                   
                        3800mAh 3s Gens Ace lipos
                        Axi 2217/12 motor
                        30 amp ESC
                        8x6 folding prop
This w/e I will be testing the endurance. :P
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: foamster on July 08, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
Hi Guys,

thanks for all the feedback and PM's, sorry i have soo busy with one thing or another. I am shutting down for August, so that i can get all these projects finished.

I have been listening and have some ideas that i will share as they come.

thanks Again

Rob
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on July 08, 2013, 06:38:26 PM
thats great rob now you have 11 posts you can send pm's could you drop me one please.
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: Brucey on July 08, 2013, 06:47:13 PM
Look forward to hearing your ideas. I'm still building my falcon. It's now going to be my test bed for my open pilot revolution
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: FPVSteve on July 08, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
Just managed to bag one of these wings too, looking forward to doing a flight review of it once I get my hands on it - after seeing Liams yesterday I can't wait.
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on July 08, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
steve you will love it!
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: Teamftp on July 08, 2013, 10:17:42 PM
I must say I was VERY IMPRESSED with how that wing flew. Was bloomin AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on July 08, 2013, 10:59:31 PM
my little issue is now sorted !
thanks for the glue sticks si.
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: skyscraper on July 24, 2013, 11:34:22 AM
Bought a flyingwings falcon and thought it would be a good excuse to see if moving the fins off the wingtips is a good idea!

Here are some pics of a mockup of the fin attchments intended to go just outside the prop cutout.

(http://s11.postimg.org/409yk5i9r/fin_mockup1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/409yk5i9r/)

(http://s23.postimg.org/ikoowuwqf/fin_mockup2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ikoowuwqf/)

(http://s23.postimg.org/sal9kw853/fin_mockup3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sal9kw853/)

1) Should be good for speed
2) Probably wont be good for duration since it lowers the aspect ratio.
3) Should eliminate any chance of waggling at certain speeds.
4) Very easy to get on and off , just mount with Velcro.

Overall though it looks like a fun model, so if this doesnt work I'll get another one and follow the recommended way  :)

regards
Andy

Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: ROVguy on July 24, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Yep, I think I'd take one over the TBS caipirinha. Flew very nicely.
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: skyscraper on July 24, 2013, 08:01:01 PM
How are you all mounting the motor? Just self tapping screws through the 2 mm ply engine mount?

regards
Andy

Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: Brucey on July 24, 2013, 09:14:13 PM
Yup
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: liambaker996 on July 24, 2013, 10:39:58 PM
self tappers into the ply mount which is glued to the foam motor mount :)
Liam
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: FPVSteve on July 24, 2013, 10:45:54 PM
I glue on an AXN motor mount that I had lying around.
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: skyscraper on July 25, 2013, 12:52:33 AM
Thanks for the info! Self tappers it is then  :)

regards
Andy
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: foamster on July 25, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
@ Skyscraper

interesting fin arrangement, tho what happened to the wing panels, look like they went thro a shredder in the pic !!

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: flyingwings.co.uk falcon wing prototype test
Post by: skyscraper on July 25, 2013, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: foamster on July 25, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
@ Skyscraper

interesting fin arrangement, tho what happened to the wing panels, look like they went thro a shredder in the pic !!

Cheers Rob

Hi Rob,

Sorry I do like to tinker  :laugh:

Anyway fear not .. The wing core in the pics is just an old core I had which I used to do a run-through mockup of how the fin attachments will work. They work ok in the photo except the velcro gives a bit of play, so I modified it so the ply plate on the tube fits snuggly into a slot on the actual plane. (Wish I had a 3d printer, then could make some sort of snap-in arrangement which would be much better!) 

Anyway I'm committed now since I just started chopping into the actual cores. Its always satisfying to do that  :)

regards
Andy