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Video Equipment => FPV Antennas => Topic started by: skyscraper on April 07, 2014, 02:01:55 PM

Title: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: skyscraper on April 07, 2014, 02:01:55 PM
Hacking around with OpenSCAD I managed to make a cool looking offset dish antenna. Once I get around to it will try 3D printing it and covering with foil. Not sure how big to make it yet but will prob use a 3 turn helical as the detector part.

(http://s30.postimg.org/mdtvxusel/offset_reflector.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mdtvxusel/)

Attached  is the OpenSCAD source if you are interested in having a go at it!

regards
Andy
Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: skyscraper on April 08, 2014, 11:35:40 AM
Helical and base added and shape changed a bit to try to print in one piece on my printer. The 3 turn helical will be mounted onto a connector on a bit of GF tube. You can see the hole for the tube to slide into in the base of the reflector.

(http://s7.postimg.org/trha6dl9j/58_G_offset_dish.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/trha6dl9j/)

EDIT: And as Rob Thompson pointed out, you need a helical of opposite polarisation to the one on your aircraft!

regards
Andy
Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: FPVSteve on April 08, 2014, 11:55:01 AM
This is pretty interesting, let us know how you get on. One of these would look cool on the side of a van :D
Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: rob.thomson on April 08, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
I imagine just a simple LHCP clover would suffice.  The gain comes from the dish

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Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: skyscraper on April 09, 2014, 10:23:52 AM
Cheers Steve! I keep hacking about with it. Might even try 2 dishes side by side, one for RC and one for video . I found a formula on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_antenna#Gain) that says the gain for a 200 mm diameter 5.8GHz antenna at 50% efficiency would be around 70. (Which I think is 18.5 dB) With that sort of gain,you could go for miles on 25 mW  :)

Rob. I reckon the signal that comes to the antenna is quite directional so a helical might be best. Anyway I find them easier to make (http://www.zoomworks.org/fpv/helical_antenna/index.html) :)

regrads
Andy

Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: rob.thomson on April 09, 2014, 10:51:20 AM
Could I suggest a £10 TBS patch type antenna?

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Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: skyscraper on April 09, 2014, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: rob.thomson on April 09, 2014, 10:51:20 AM
Could I suggest a £10 TBS patch type antenna?

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You mean instead of the whole dish antenna or instead of the driven element at the focus?

regards
Andy
Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: rob.thomson on April 09, 2014, 11:15:49 AM
The element at then focal point.

I just don't thing the helical will work as well as an patch of clover on the (lnb) head.

Spent a bit of time in the past playing with satellite dishes etc..

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Title: Re: Offset Dish antenna
Post by: skyscraper on April 09, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
Aha Your input will be greatly appreciated then !

According to the Wikipedia formula for a particular size of dish the gain is dependent on the frequency and works in favour of higher frequencies. For instance at 2.4 GHz the gain is only 12.5 ( 11 Db) In other words a small dish antenna looks really well suited to 5.8 GHz in particular  :)

As for the driven element. I will make the attachment for it separate so you can stick different ones on.

However dont expect anything soon though. I've got too many projects on the go!

regards
Andy