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General Category => FPV Legalities => Topic started by: simondale on August 14, 2014, 11:39:04 AM

Title: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: simondale on August 14, 2014, 11:39:04 AM
Dear All,

Please see the email below from the CAA regarding a restriction of flying in the Newport and Cardiff areas September 3rd to 5th for the NATO summit.

All the best

Simon

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All,

In case you are not aware, a Restriction of Flying order has been made to cover the period of the NATO summit, which is taking place in Newport, Gwent, during the period 3-5 September 2014 – the full details are published within Aeronautical Information Circular M 081/2014, which is contained within the link below:

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic/pamslight-929CE4094E2E7D4B79058BD5D361C72A/7FE5QZZF3FXUS/EN/AIC/M/081-2014/EG_Circ_2014_M_081_en_2014-08-07.pdf (http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic/pamslight-929CE4094E2E7D4B79058BD5D361C72A/7FE5QZZF3FXUS/EN/AIC/M/081-2014/EG_Circ_2014_M_081_en_2014-08-07.pdf)

Note the wording of the AIC, which creates a Restricted Area (Temporary) within a 20nm radius of the meeting venue plus an additional 'blob' to the south west of it, up to FL105 (10,500ft) within which NO AIRCRAFT is to be flown unless in accordance with the conditions listed.  This is an extremely large area indeed!

I've checked with the appropriate staff, on the off chance that small UAS operations (recreational or otherwise) had been overlooked, or if a less restrictive 'no fly' distance could be provided, but I'm afraid not; the model aircraft aspects were actually discussed at length at the security meetings during the period leading up to the publication of the AIC - the intention is to prevent ALL Unmanned Aircraft from operating as well.

The NATO summit event is the biggest security event the UK has hosted in recent years with over 60 Heads of States, 60 foreign secs etc amounting to over 10,000 significant participants. Unmanned aircraft of all types and sizes, no matter whether they are being operated for recreational or other means, create a clear security threat in an environment where the Police and MoD are carrying out a significant air policing operation including fighter air patrols, additional radar devices and airborne surveillance to achieve and maintain a recognised air picture. No exemptions will be provided for model operations – this was at the joint agreement of the Security forces. The threat is not just around the venue; due to the location, delegates will be accommodated at other venues within the 20nm area. The intention is to carry out proportionate policing (eg. so that someone flying his simple 'toy helicopter' in his back garden should not become a criminal, although even that will probably depend on the circumstances at the time), but beyond this, everyone will need to take a break from flying in that area during that period.

Can I therefore ask you to publicise the details of the restriction to your other members, customers or colleagues as widely as possible?  I have taken the Email addresses of many of you from the distribution list for the annual CAA/Model Aircraft Associations meeting, in order to try and cast the net as widely as possible.

Please note that the security and policing aspects of small UAS operations are quickly moving up the agenda in the security world (ie. not connected to the CAA's flight safety remit) - only last week a UAS operator (believed to be connected to the media using 'hobbyist equipment' but this is still under investigation) almost impacted on a policing operation, which could potentially have turned a delicate policing op into something very major including loss of life. This was well after the 'Emergency restriction of flying' restrictions were planned and notified, but it all adds to the rationale and justification.

Gerry
Gerry Corbett
UAS Programme Lead
Intelligence, Strategy and Policy
Safety and Airspace Regulation Group
Civil Aviation Authority
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Loopdreams on August 14, 2014, 11:44:24 AM
Bad URL, there.
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: ClippedWing on August 14, 2014, 11:59:20 AM
For the lazy ones among us!
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: FPVSteve on August 14, 2014, 11:59:51 AM
I can't be bothered to click on that picture, could you make it bigger thanks
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: ClippedWing on August 14, 2014, 12:02:20 PM
I would but i cant be bothered
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Heliotrope on August 14, 2014, 01:05:05 PM
Thanks for posting this Simon. It's a good explanation of the situation and I can now understand the 20 mile restriction.
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: electrotor on August 14, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
Quote from: BenLimeClouds on August 14, 2014, 12:02:20 PM
I would but i cant be bothered

;D
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: chris-s on August 14, 2014, 04:23:34 PM
Well, I guess that buggers up the last few days of Brean Sands model flying week.

Chris
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: bignose13 on August 14, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
I'm in Pontypridd, it's there on the map if you look, I can't even fly my hubsan x4 in my kitchen and wind the dog up :(
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Heliotrope on August 14, 2014, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: bignose13 on August 14, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
I'm in Pontypridd, it's there on the map if you look, I can't even fly my hubsan x4 in my kitchen and wind the dog up :(

Ponty is a well known centre of unrest and rebellion (especially on a Friday night) so it's only fair that it's included  :laugh:
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Paul881 on August 14, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
Bloody hell, that is one hell of a big area :o. Really? :+
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Ynot6 on August 14, 2014, 08:38:19 PM
it's good to have this sort of heads up. thanks for passing it on Simon. nice to have a plain english, and approachably worded statement, thanks CAA. 
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Spookfish on August 14, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
I think we should all be a bit worried about the last paragraph! (?)
The do do is definitely heading towards the fan!
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Shikra on August 14, 2014, 10:02:04 PM
I wondered if anyone else noticed that.... I saw identical story posted the other day posted but it was overseas. New York state I think.
Title: Re: Restriction of Flying; NATO Summit - Newport and Cardiff areas 3-5 Sep 14
Post by: Ynot6 on August 14, 2014, 11:01:57 PM
yes, i noticed it. i'm sure there will be tighter regulation in the not to distant future, and not all from the CAA.