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Title: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: jt on June 25, 2015, 10:29:20 PM
 These just look so good I had to have one :laugh: I like my current wing wing but it's so cramped inside and can only carry the mobius which I am no great fan of TBH, I also won a YI cam on another forum and it needed to go in something......
I have never built a plane before, in fact my mate even glued the wings on my wing wing for me lol! So this should be fun.... I'm following the order of things in the manual to the letter although it does seem some things may have been better to do before the manual says to do them lol.
The plan is to paint it black as I'm hoping it will make it easier to follow as white planes disappear against the sky in the fatsharks too easily. My collection of 2200mAh 3s will also have a use again!!

The kit arrived really quickly, which is really nice and I was confronted by this
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150624_135542_zps9t0cgh4j.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150624_135542_zps9t0cgh4j.jpg.html)

I set to work, putting the fuse/centre part together
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150624_155605_zpsthnfsjt3.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150624_155605_zpsthnfsjt3.jpg.html)

I put a quick coat of black on the parts
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_142536_zpsa2vz1rhe.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_142536_zpsa2vz1rhe.jpg.html)

I had dug out some foam to fit the cams in, it was a hell of a job getting the edges of the foam out of the YI's FOV and got a bit carried away with the knife but it should be good.... I just cut a slit to push the FPV cam wires into and then plan on gluing the slit back up once they are in. I will also need to fashion something to stop the slippery little YI from escaping!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_153217_zpsmjsusjhr.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_153217_zpsmjsusjhr.jpg.html)

I had a quick dry fitting of the wings and it does look very black lol, so I painted the elevons orange and have started to toy with the idea of putting some kind of colour on here and there.lol
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_153229_zpsikyfvicu.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_153229_zpsikyfvicu.jpg.html)

On the advice of iPeel I went for hotglue to attach the wings instead of UHU Por, glad I did as it worked a treat and they feel really well on there :D
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_183800_zpsquxtsvt4.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_183800_zpsquxtsvt4.jpg.html)

I'm waiting on a bag of mg90s servos to come through the post, a cheap 600mw vtx from china and most annoyingly my box of bit's from Hobbyking, they should have come Wednesday but didn't, I figured they would just show up today but when they didn't I checked the tracking and good old parcelfarce have marked it as 'insufficient address data' WTF, I have had plenty of HK deliveries made by them, so why they would suddenly get confused now >:(

Anyway more to come as it gets done :)
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: iPeel on June 25, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
Awesome, nice colours. Yeah, hot glue works a treat on joining the wings to the fuse, also the motor mount.

We really need to get a Falcon meet arranged at some point!

Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: BlueFlyer on June 25, 2015, 11:41:44 PM
build is coming along nicely bud, I love the Falcon, you will too.

What power set did you go for?
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on June 26, 2015, 01:59:37 AM
Looks really nice.

Not sure if I will regret not painting mine. Black does look great and I too have gone for Orange elevons!
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 26, 2015, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: iPeel on June 25, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
Awesome, nice colours. Yeah, hot glue works a treat on joining the wings to the fuse, also the motor mount.

We really need to get a Falcon meet arranged at some point!

Yeah, thanks for the tip, I left the glue gun on for about 20 minutes to make sure it was at it's very hottest lol

Quote from: BlueFlyer on June 25, 2015, 11:41:44 PM
What power set did you go for?

I've got the 2826 2200kv and 2826 1400kv coming so that I can try both suggested options, I will probably go for the 2200 to start with, I have one on my wing wing and it goes about 95kph on that.

Quote from: Billy_boy_2010 on June 26, 2015, 01:59:37 AM
Not sure if I will regret not painting mine. Black does look great and I too have gone for Orange elevons!

  I may add some more colour to it to break the black up a bit, not too sure yet.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: BlueFlyer on June 26, 2015, 08:40:48 AM
Stickers and vinyl will go on  really well once the laminate is applied
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 26, 2015, 10:48:00 AM
 Yeah, I have a vinyl cutter so could go that route, although I started to think about airbrushing 'lava' on it(I'm 41,should I really be thinking about airbrushing stuff on it  :laugh:)

servos came in the post this morning  :D
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: AdamG on June 26, 2015, 11:35:32 AM
Looking good. Will be following this thread as a Falcon is next on my ever growing FPV shopping list :)
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 26, 2015, 08:43:11 PM
 Well it's got a bit more colour now...... :P 

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150626_192026_zpswqlsxuhg.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150626_192026_zpswqlsxuhg.jpg.html)

Still no delivery of my box of bits from hobbyking, Parcelfarce, despite telling me they now have my address sorted and it would be delivered, didn't manage it for the third day running........... The servos have turned up through the post though so I can get them cut in tomorrow and think about doing the laminate :o
Title: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: Brucey on June 26, 2015, 08:45:11 PM
Cool,  how did you do that?
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 26, 2015, 08:47:22 PM
With an airbrush, hopefully it will look cool in the sky  :laugh:
Title: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: Brucey on June 26, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
Cool, got some skills there
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: iPeel on June 26, 2015, 09:24:05 PM
That looks amazing!
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on June 27, 2015, 01:08:53 AM
Wow that looks amazing.

My white one with orange elevons isn't going to steal the show :(
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 27, 2015, 09:01:27 AM
 Thanks chaps!

Quote from: Brucey on June 26, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
Cool, got some skills there

:laugh: I'm not very good at it but I just tell myself it's an effect and will look good in the air :laugh:
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: iwan_canobi on June 28, 2015, 01:27:37 PM
That looks awesome! Got me in the mood to dust of my airbrush and give it a go on mine when it arrives!
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 28, 2015, 06:45:42 PM
Quote from: iwan_canobi on June 28, 2015, 01:27:37 PM
That looks awesome! Got me in the mood to dust of my airbrush and give it a go on mine when it arrives!

Yeah  ;D It's nice to make stuff a little individual, I watched a couple of airbrushing videos on the tube to refresh my memory as I hadn't done any for ages, my little lad(5) watched them with me, I returned from the man cave after doing it and he said "It looks cool Daddy, but why didn't you do the lightning on it??"  :laugh:
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 28, 2015, 07:00:18 PM
 Fitted the servos and did the laminating, can't say I enjoyed the laminating in the slightest.... :laugh:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150628_170436_zpsnuuwdp5g.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150628_170436_zpsnuuwdp5g.jpg.html)

I don't really want to use fibre reinforced tape to attach the elevons as it won't be so pretty then.... Whats good stuff to use and what width?

I just need my parcel to turn up from hobbyking, Parcelfarce's latest excuse Friday was they couldn't find my property!!!! It has a postcode FFS!!
Title: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: Brucey on June 28, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
Use this http://www.ryman.co.uk/3m-scotch-mailing-tape-50mm-x-20m-with-dispenser
Like this http://youtu.be/5sdvJB6qN8E
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 28, 2015, 07:27:25 PM
 Thanks Brucey ;D  i've watched that video the other day and liked the look of the method shown, without leaving a loose/baggy bit as described in the manual.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 29, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
 Finally my box of bits from Hobbyking have been delivered!!! 5 days late but here now  :o  The Parcelfarce man said "Sorry, I was on holiday last week, the driver they got in to cover failed to make many of the deliveries...."  My address was of course perfectly and correctly printed on the label, so the whole 'insufficient address data' was just BS, surprise surprise  :laugh:

Anyway I can get on with getting this thing into a flyable condition later!!  :D
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: AdamG on June 29, 2015, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: jt on June 29, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
Finally my box of bits from Hobbyking have been delivered!!! 5 days late but here now  :o  The Parcelfarce man said "Sorry, I was on holiday last week, the driver they got in to cover failed to make many of the deliveries...."  My address was of course perfectly and correctly printed on the label, so the whole 'insufficient address data' was just BS, surprise surprise  :laugh:

Anyway I can get on with getting this thing into a flyable condition later!!  :D

WTF  :o anyone with google maps on their phone can find ANY address  :+
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on June 29, 2015, 02:48:34 PM
 More a case of the fill in driver not being bothered sadly, the regular guy that brought it today also said he had 80 deliveries to make today because of it, doesn't sound many I know but it's the 'in the sticks' route where there could well be a mile or three between deliveries.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on July 05, 2015, 04:33:25 PM
 Finished(to a point) for the maiden flights, the rx wires are just hanging out of the top for now as I may put a different one in and I need to make something better than a strip of insulation tape to stop the YI falling out. It has had 4 batteries through it and flies nice, very nice. Landing is a bit of a problem as it just glides forever lol.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150705_150044_zpsch2lpvqj.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150705_150044_zpsch2lpvqj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on July 05, 2015, 07:43:48 PM
For the love of god fit some velcro to secure that camera.  I lost mine after flying inverted on my maiden! Fortunately I had it so nose heavy she still flew well when I landed it.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on July 05, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
LOL, I wrapped some insulation tape around it to stop it falling out, did some inverted flying, rolls and a loop or two and the cam was still there :D

Bit disappointed with the YI though, it made some corrupted video files so half my footage from today was lost.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: iPeel on July 05, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: jt on July 05, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
Bit disappointed with the YI though, it made some corrupted video files so half my footage from today was lost.

I've never had that, have you tried updating the firmware?

Where's the other half of the footage that was recorded properly? As of right now the maiden hasn't happened...  :P
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on July 05, 2015, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: iPeel on July 05, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: jt on July 05, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
Bit disappointed with the YI though, it made some corrupted video files so half my footage from today was lost.

I've never had that, have you tried updating the firmware?

Where's the other half of the footage that was recorded properly? As of right now the maiden hasn't happened...  :P

Yeah, I've updated to the latest FW, it's got a samsung  32gb class 10 card in too. I'll try formatting the card again and see if it helps, it was recording in 1080p 60fps.
The video is rendering right now  :P Can't upload until after 11pm as I live in an interweb dead spot and so am forced to pay £50pm for 30Gb of satellite interweb(unlimited usage between 11pm and 7am) and a 7 minute 1080p 60fps video is gong to be more than a days worth of allowance....lol
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO!
Post by: jt on July 06, 2015, 09:19:38 AM
Maiden Video!  The first launch at the start of the video was very wobbly lol, the falcon was very twitchy and sensitive and took me a bit by surprise! For the first battery I was rolling/wobbling side to side as each of my corrections would go a bit too far  :laugh: Still managed to get it trimmed up and after landing and adding more expo it behaved wonderfully. It is very floaty and glides superbly, infact the only problem was landing as it just keeps going  :laugh:
Looks like I need to trim a little more foam out as you can see it in the corners of the video......

http://youtu.be/lfOZcwsHmtI (http://youtu.be/lfOZcwsHmtI)
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: iPeel on July 06, 2015, 10:28:06 AM
Nice one JT, that looks like it's flying really well now. Glad to see you got nice and low pretty much straight away!
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: jt on July 06, 2015, 09:32:49 PM
 Thanks  ;D, it seemed tricky to stay low, it just wants to get up there lol.

Currently wondering whether to try my pixhawk in it or just keep it simple.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: iPeel on July 06, 2015, 09:40:14 PM
Rob's got an AP in his, but for me the Falcon's about keeping it simple and great handling.
Title: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: Brucey on July 06, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
Yeah keep it simple and fly the nuts off of it!
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: BlueFlyer on July 06, 2015, 10:09:36 PM
I've flown my Falcon first with just a standard OSD with no stability, and more recently with Vector OSD... full on flight controller with stability and RTH.

The safety net of RTH saved my falcon twice on Friday, the problem was caused by the 4ch lite ezuhf receiver glitching and not coming back into contact with the tx on my 9XR Pro.

I was only a few hundred metres away, but it would have been a nightmare to find.... most likely would have never found it.

I choose to have RTH on my Falcon because I have a very expensive (compared to the rest of the airframe) GoPro 3 Black on the nose.

At any time I can turn stabilisation off, and I do so very often as I love flying it like a fighter jet.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: jt on July 06, 2015, 10:15:01 PM
 You're probably both right lol, I just got to thinking about 4000mAh Multistar lipos, going out a bit further(only couple of Km either way) and RTH  ;D

Forgot to say, I got 19 1/2 minutes with a 3s 2200mAh pack with 2200kv motor and 6x5(looks far too small on there), it did completely drain it (and come down in tall wheat 1/2 km away) as my lipo alarm didn't sound and it doesn't have any OSD yet. So I set my timer for 15 minutes and still had 11.2v left in so that should be kind to the batteries. I'm sure if being really economical with the throttle and gliding a lot, it would stay up for ages on a pack.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: iPeel on July 06, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
That's a pretty good runtime on that setup, I'd be happy with that.

it all depends on your comfort level and how well you know the area you fly in. This was with a Falcon V1 and no autopilot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdsVxZFia0E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdsVxZFia0E)

Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: jt on July 06, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: iPeel on July 06, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
.......it all depends on your comfort level and how well you know the area you fly in. This was with a Falcon V1 and no autopilot:

That was really nice, what antenna setup did you have for the FPV?
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: iPeel on July 06, 2015, 10:57:48 PM
That was UHF on OpenLRS and 5.8 for video. I think the antenna was pretty dodgy though, I knocked it up after I'd had a few.
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: jt on July 06, 2015, 11:00:50 PM
Lol, was just impressed that you were down to 50m altitude at distance and kept the video signal! :)
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on July 07, 2015, 12:46:38 AM
I have put a vector in as I'm hoping this will become my go to wing. I think it will be about to do just about anything 90% as well as a dedicated craft.

Want long flight times? 4000 multistar
Want agility and speed? It's pretty quick as it is! Have a 4s compatible motor if you want real speed.
Want Hd video? This can easily carry a gopro in the nose.

It's only weakness appears to be medium or high wind. The wing tips are huge which must take a hint with a crosswind. I'm tempted to experiment with smaller wing tips to see if the resultant tail waggle is minor.

I'm currently working out if I can add a removeable 150g weight right on the centre of the CG line to make her handle higher winds too. Obviously she won't glide as well but a shorter flight loaded up with mass is better than no flight at all :)
Title: Re: jt's Falcon EVO! now with maiden video!
Post by: jt on July 11, 2015, 04:52:28 PM
 I have, for now at least, put a remzibi OSD in it for the basics. I may look into getting a 'proper' plane AP in at some point when I'm less skint, instead of keep thinking about putting the pixhawk in, mostly because I would like to try one out lol.
Took it out this morning in the breeze(10-12mph or so) it handled it well and I got 103Kph into the breeze and 111Kph with it(tired battery on the with the wind one) so it's not too slow on the 2200mAh 3s, 2200kv motor and 6x5 prop ;D
Then on the second battery the ESC packed in, it just sounded like the braking came on and that was that, lucky these things glide so well for so long lol. 5 batteries through an ESC before it dies is a bit annoying though. I've just ordered a 40A skywalker to replace the HK f30A, I may try a 7" prop when I get it.