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Title: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 03:11:34 PM
hi, still really new to fpv, and all the equipment it requires. Im looking for a simple osd, that displays my flight pack voltage, and something to help me get back if i get disorientated, like a compass, heading diamond etc.

is there anything about that is relatively simple to setup and will just provide me with theses things?

using a frisky taranis if that makes a difference?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: krikey on October 05, 2015, 03:44:41 PM
If you want a home heading you'll need a GPS unit so that the way home can be calculated. The CC3D and Nase32 among others can use a GPS. To get this all displayed you could look at a minimOSD and theres a micro MinimOSD thats quite configurable and will give you your home direction as well as a host of other things.

Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 04:28:20 PM
so for example, on my naza lite 450 quad, which has gps, i could wire a minimOSD into that?

for my fixed wing stuff, which due to longer flight times, I'm more likely to need a way home, I'm not looking to use a stabilisation/board. is there anything stand alone i could use?

also where is best place to buy these? usual suspects like hobby king or bang good?

thank you
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: iPeel on October 05, 2015, 04:31:43 PM
I use a MyFlyDream TeleflyPro as a simple OSD which can talk to any GPS and can use a current sensor to give battery voltage and mah consumed. It's pretty much plug and play.

As a cheaper option there's firmware for the MinimOSD and Micro MinimOSD which can take a battery voltage and GPS without a flight controller then give you a nice simple OSD, but you have to be comfortable with wiring and flashing firmware to get it working.
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: krikey on October 05, 2015, 04:41:04 PM
A short google later and this popped up for Naza M Lite -> minimOSD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9r_Yu9U5rk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9r_Yu9U5rk)

For the plane, you could get something like the Cyclops Storm which has the FC (fight controller) and OSD as one unit. The GPS is a separate unit that you can stick on top of the plane. This is probably by far the easiest method as its all done for you.

If you want to tinker, then CC3D, (micro) minimOSD and GPS would work as well. CC3D can be reflashed for multis and planks.
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: stevec on October 05, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
minnaza osd is a true ballache to solder up. there is an off the shelf version you can buy from banggood now

http://www.banggood.com/S-OSD-iOSD-Remzibi-OSD-Module-for-DJI-NAZA-LiteV2-GPS-vs-N-OSD-p-958349.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=rc-quad-uk&gclid=CjwKEAjwv8iwBRC35-_e8aPqwCESJAB8khP9G7gLn8mdGOqJcgWMdCDkyNmqa3WJ0Q20T2Ob1WIyGxoC_4rw_wcB (http://www.banggood.com/S-OSD-iOSD-Remzibi-OSD-Module-for-DJI-NAZA-LiteV2-GPS-vs-N-OSD-p-958349.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=rc-quad-uk&gclid=CjwKEAjwv8iwBRC35-_e8aPqwCESJAB8khP9G7gLn8mdGOqJcgWMdCDkyNmqa3WJ0Q20T2Ob1WIyGxoC_4rw_wcB)

even comes with the right sort of cables to connect it in line with your GPS puck.

I made the minaza version and it worked ok but was very fragile and the tiny wires I had soldered on were constantly coming off.

cheers
steve
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 05:19:13 PM
Quote from: stevec on October 05, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
minnaza osd is a true ballache to solder up. there is an off the shelf version you can buy from banggood now

http://www.banggood.com/S-OSD-iOSD-Remzibi-OSD-Module-for-DJI-NAZA-LiteV2-GPS-vs-N-OSD-p-958349.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=rc-quad-uk&gclid=CjwKEAjwv8iwBRC35-_e8aPqwCESJAB8khP9G7gLn8mdGOqJcgWMdCDkyNmqa3WJ0Q20T2Ob1WIyGxoC_4rw_wcB (http://www.banggood.com/S-OSD-iOSD-Remzibi-OSD-Module-for-DJI-NAZA-LiteV2-GPS-vs-N-OSD-p-958349.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=rc-quad-uk&gclid=CjwKEAjwv8iwBRC35-_e8aPqwCESJAB8khP9G7gLn8mdGOqJcgWMdCDkyNmqa3WJ0Q20T2Ob1WIyGxoC_4rw_wcB)

even comes with the right sort of cables to connect it in line with your GPS puck.

I made the minaza version and it worked ok but was very fragile and the tiny wires I had soldered on were constantly coming off.

cheers
steve

bit wary of the reviews, have you used one at all? may take the plunge ant ry it though
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: stevec on October 05, 2015, 05:30:45 PM
no when I had my modded board fall apart for the second time I binned it and bought an EZ osd.
if I had bought that in the first place I would actually be better off.

I have had 2x g-osd hacked to provide a home arrow. 2x minim osd re wired for minnaza, pidgeon osd. and the EZ osd.

the EZ osd is by far the most reliable but it doesn't play nicely with a mobius on the quad. works faultlessly in my plane though.

if you do take the plunge for ezosd then make sure you get the one with the bigger GPS Rx on it, the smaller one is crappy.

unfortunately you do seem to get what you pay for with OSD's unless anyone can prove me wrong.. please do as I am in the market for a new one for my AP quad.

/Steve

/Steve
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 05:56:52 PM
https://www.rcgeeks.co.uk/spares-finder/dji-innovations/phantom-2/dji-innovations-iosd-mini.html#reviews (https://www.rcgeeks.co.uk/spares-finder/dji-innovations/phantom-2/dji-innovations-iosd-mini.html#reviews)

may try one these for my naza lite quad?
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: chris-s on October 05, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
Hobbyking Mini OSD...

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29798__Mini_OSD_System_w_GPS_Module.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29798__Mini_OSD_System_w_GPS_Module.html)

..about £17.

Uses it's own gps so nicely standalone but you might be able to wire it into the nasa gps if wanted, tho why bother.

I've used several of these on fixed wings and reflashed the software which allows you to configure the layout (uOSD on RCGRoups).

Chris
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: stevec on October 05, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Quote from: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 05:56:52 PM
http://www.rcgeeks.co.uk/spares-finder/dji-innovations/phantom-2/dji-innovations-iosd-mini.html#reviews (http://www.rcgeeks.co.uk/spares-finder/dji-innovations/phantom-2/dji-innovations-iosd-mini.html#reviews)

may try one these for my naza lite quad?

I think you need a Naza-m not a lite for that to work. that is why there are all the attempts to make one that does work with Naza lite.

/Steve
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: FPVSteve on October 05, 2015, 07:15:47 PM
You can flash a Lite to become a V2 so it can work with the IOSD stuff ... same hardware, just firmware limitations (which is horrible).
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: chris-s on October 05, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
Hobbyking Mini OSD...

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29798__Mini_OSD_System_w_GPS_Module.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29798__Mini_OSD_System_w_GPS_Module.html)

..about £17.

Uses it's own gps so nicely standalone but you might be able to wire it into the nasa gps if wanted, tho why bother.

I've used several of these on fixed wings and reflashed the software which allows you to configure the layout (uOSD on RCGRoups).

Chris

I actually have one of these, but as standard it does not give direction/commpass.

can i reflash using a mac, and with what software?

Is there a guide on how to, and how i would wire it up to a vtx?
thanks
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: stevec on October 05, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
I think you need a Naza-m not a lite for that to work. that is why there are all the attempts to make one that does work with Naza lite.

/Steve
bugger
Title: need a simple osd?
Post by: stevec on October 05, 2015, 08:26:58 PM
Steve is correct above you can reflash the naza to v1 but you still need the stupid pmu wotsit that everything plugs into by the time you have bought that you may as well buy a v1


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Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 05, 2015, 10:52:55 PM
http://en.eurny-rc.fr/flash-mini-osd/ (http://en.eurny-rc.fr/flash-mini-osd/)
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 06, 2015, 12:29:19 PM
http://www.banggood.com/Feiyu-Tech-FY-41AP-Lite-Entry-Level-FPV-Autopilot-p-918392.html (http://www.banggood.com/Feiyu-Tech-FY-41AP-Lite-Entry-Level-FPV-Autopilot-p-918392.html)

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=66955 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=66955)


thoughts on these? was going to get the suppo osd for 60 quid, but of rate extra looks like i could get a stabilisation system for rth as well?

thank you
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: chris-s on October 06, 2015, 01:43:40 PM
Ha, talk about project creep!

To answer your original question or "need a simple osd", really the easiest stand-alone option with the ability to show a direction home arrow is the £17 one I linked to earlier. It can easily be reflashed if you want to customise the layout or add some extra features.

But now that you are beginning to look further afield at more complex systems, why not consider the "HKPilot Mega", which is basically an APM2.6 running Arduplane and about as comprehensive as you can get when you can add in 'mission planner' ground station software etc.

Chris
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 06, 2015, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: chris-s on October 06, 2015, 01:43:40 PM
Ha, talk about project creep!

To answer your original question or "need a simple osd", really the easiest stand-alone option with the ability to show a direction home arrow is the £17 one I linked to earlier. It can easily be reflashed if you want to customise the layout or add some extra features.

But now that you are beginning to look further afield at more complex systems, why not consider the "HKPilot Mega", which is basically an APM2.6 running Arduplane and about as comprehensive as you can get when you can add in 'mission planner' ground station software etc.

Chris

ha, always the same!
the idea of having less money ad complexity on board is still appealing however, so will consider the initial one you linked to, and have  a look at th HK pilot mega.

thank you

chris, is this what i have to do to get this unit to give direction home arrow?
http://en.eurny-rc.fr/flash-mini-osd/ (http://en.eurny-rc.fr/flash-mini-osd/)

im not great at reflashing etc, but I'm willing to give it a go if i can get this unit to give me direction arrow.

elliott
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: chris-s on October 06, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Yep, that looks about it. It seems really complicated but I've done it several times, just take your time with the soldering. I was pretty sure that the stock firmware displayed a home-direction arrow, as thats what I first started with before I discovered the art of reflashing. Of course, they could have changed it in later versions.

Chris

Quote from: collectiveitch on October 06, 2015, 04:14:56 PM
ha, always the same!
the idea of having less money ad complexity on board is still appealing however, so will consider the initial one you linked to, and have  a look at th HK pilot mega.

thank you

chris, is this what i have to do to get this unit to give direction home arrow?
http://en.eurny-rc.fr/flash-mini-osd/ (http://en.eurny-rc.fr/flash-mini-osd/)

im not great at reflashing etc, but I'm willing to give it a go if i can get this unit to give me direction arrow.

elliott
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: gr4ndp4 on October 12, 2015, 10:28:32 PM
Hi Stevec - I'm looking at taking my first steps in FPV on a Venturi wing, I note your recommendation for the EZosd. I already have a Lemon rx stabiliser & telemetry set in the wing, can I install a second current sensor in the power line or must I strip this out? I'm also considering using a HS1184 camera, can I do this or must I use ImmersionRC camera's and vtx? I'd appreciate your advice.

Cheers

Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: stevec on October 12, 2015, 10:38:24 PM
not sure on the current sensor, I see no reason why it would cause a problem, just plug the line that normally goes into the battery into the power sensor and the battery into the other side.

Immersion gear makes it all plug and play but it will work with anything, to be honest if you can get it flying first then add the osd after, I wouldn't be without the osd now but it is good practice to start off basic and build the system.

cheers
Steve
Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: gr4ndp4 on October 12, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Hi Steve - thanks for that.
Cheers
Title: need a simple osd?
Post by: elmattbo on October 13, 2015, 12:14:25 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned as I didn't have time to read the whole thread. Cyclops breeze is the cyclops storm minus the flight controller. It's worked pretty well for me although the mah consumed is way off for some reason - I just use voltage. I has a HUD style display with speed altitude and heading tape, a rth arrow and other bits too.
It's about £50
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/13/5094ec8782d852b26ffaee81240bb926.jpg)


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Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: collectiveitch on October 20, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: elmattbo on October 13, 2015, 12:14:25 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned as I didn't have time to read the whole thread. Cyclops breeze is the cyclops storm minus the flight controller. It's worked pretty well for me although the mah consumed is way off for some reason - I just use voltage. I has a HUD style display with speed altitude and heading tape, a rth arrow and other bits too.
It's about £50
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/13/5094ec8782d852b26ffaee81240bb926.jpg)


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hi matt, do you have a link to any of these, can't find one anywhere?
thanks
Title: need a simple osd?
Post by: elmattbo on October 20, 2015, 04:20:54 PM
http://www.foxtechfpv.com/cyclops-breeze-pro-osd-p-1042.html


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Title: Re: need a simple osd?
Post by: Ynot6 on October 20, 2015, 10:53:37 PM
skylark is small, about £50, and gives you just what you need.
Title: need a simple osd?
Post by: BigT on October 20, 2015, 11:05:41 PM
Quote from: collectiveitch on October 06, 2015, 12:29:19 PM
http://www.banggood.com/Feiyu-Tech-FY-41AP-Lite-Entry-Level-FPV-Autopilot-p-918392.html (http://www.banggood.com/Feiyu-Tech-FY-41AP-Lite-Entry-Level-FPV-Autopilot-p-918392.html)

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=66955 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=66955)


thoughts on these? was going to get the suppo osd for 60 quid, but of rate extra looks like i could get a stabilisation system for rth as well?

thank you

Leave the fy 41 heavy and lite alone, loads of issues and shocking back up.  Check out the rcgroups threads.

If you want a good standalone osd how about the Rembzibi?


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