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Title: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 07, 2016, 09:29:44 PM
I have a 'bit-of-a-thing' that I do not like to see LOS planes with an empty cockpit.

Whilst I can find various places selling scale, either full of half, pilots, I have no idea what size I need (or the nearest to) for various different planes.

The majority of RC planes are non-scale, so no reference to scale is stated.

Question:
Is there any rough calculation, using overall length / wing span maybe, from which an approximate scale can be calculated ??
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: FPVSteve on February 07, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
"whatever looks right" I think will be the answer - especially since as you say the planes themselves aren't necessarily built to scale anyway.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 07, 2016, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Steve W on February 07, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
"whatever looks right" I think will be the answer - especially since as you say the planes themselves aren't necessarily built to scale anyway.

Agreed - it's just that I'm trying to avoid buying something that's just plain wrong / wasted.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: FPVSteve on February 07, 2016, 09:48:17 PM
I would say 400 sized planes are probably around "action man" sized, i.e. 12" or so.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 07, 2016, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: Steve W on February 07, 2016, 09:48:17 PM
I would say 400 sized planes are probably around "action man" sized, i.e. 12" or so.

Thanks Steve, but I don't know what 400 size is. Can you rather equate in terms of 1/10, 1/8 etc.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: Gundummy on February 07, 2016, 10:02:41 PM
(http://www.oakridgehobbies.com/media/Scale.jpg)

(http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/UnderstandingScale_Vehicle_Image.jpg)


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SxUGkMVWuIg/Uh3kZO0fb2I/AAAAAAAAEjA/bZhIzK6kmh8/s1600/Blog-scales.jpg)


Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: FPVSteve on February 07, 2016, 10:09:07 PM
a 400 size plane, kind of like a WOT-4 or something?

A Skywalker in fact..
Title: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: BigT on February 08, 2016, 09:50:09 AM
Isn't it simply a matter of working the scale out? Say for example you are trying to find a scale pilot for a 1/5 th scale p51 mustang. You now it's 1/5 th scale so if your full size pilot is 6 ft = 72 in /5 = 14.4in. Round down to 14 in high.
What intend to do is look at a full size plane that is relative to the model. So for example a SW1900 looks like an ASW27. Look up the dimensions of that plane on the net.  Length: 6.55 m (21 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 15 m (49 ft 3 in)
Wing area: 9 m2 (97 sq ft)

Divide the larger wing by the smaller wing (or fuz). So 15000/1900=7.9. So the ratio is 7.9:1. In real terms for us that's about 1:8 scale. So your 6 foot pilot would be about 9 inches tall.

Look at the chart on this eBay site for confirmation
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/World-War-2-RAF-full-body-Pilot-RC-Model-Pilot-UNPAINTED-/291166976065?var=&hash=item43cae77841:m:mt62vnQZBHD_20hiskDD7fg

Of course we make mostly models that are cartoon scale so you need to fudge the scale a bit.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 08, 2016, 10:00:51 AM
BigT

Thanks - I thought there would be a formula to work it out - it's a bit more complicated than I had hoped though !!
Title: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: BigT on February 08, 2016, 08:03:24 PM

Quote from: wgt40w on February 08, 2016, 10:00:51 AM
BigT

Thanks - I thought there would be a formula to work it out - it's a bit more complicated than I had hoped though !!

Sounds worse than it is. What's the wingspan and fuz length and I'll do it.


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Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 08, 2016, 09:39:36 PM
BigT

Thanks for your kind offer, but I will be able to do the calculations myself.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: chris-s on February 09, 2016, 11:23:27 AM
I have quite a lot of scale IC models (1/5 to 1/3 scale) , and in general, it 'looks' better if you err on the side of larger is better, within reason of course.

Chris
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 09, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: chris-s on February 09, 2016, 11:23:27 AM
I have quite a lot of scale IC models (1/5 to 1/3 scale) , and in general, it 'looks' better if you err on the side of larger is better, within reason of course.

Chris

Unless you have a scale Japanese Zero. WWII films always make the Japanese pilots look small compared to the size of the canopy (IMO).
Partial  :P
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: chris-s on February 10, 2016, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: wgt40w on February 09, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
Unless you have a scale Japanese Zero. WWII films always make the Japanese pilots look small compared to the size of the canopy (IMO).
Partial  :P

As it happens, a 50cc zero currently on the workbench....

(http://gyazo.com/df730a700ef4862dde79de72e17c9070.png)

(yes I admit that the pilot in the picture is a little larger than scale, particularly his head!)
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: Loopdreams on February 10, 2016, 10:16:22 AM
That's really a terrible workbench too.
Title: Re: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: wgt40w on February 10, 2016, 10:22:47 AM
What size of ducted fan have you fitted up front ??

                              :D
Title: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: BigT on February 12, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
I used these when the previous owner had the company. He used to do full body a well as busts.
Petes Pilots (http://stores.ebay.com.au/Petes-Pilots?rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F705-53470-19255-0%252F1%253Ficep_ff3%253D2%2526pub%253D5574933636%2526toolid%253D10001%2526campid%253D5337487963%2526customid%253D%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fstores%25252Eebay%25252Ecom%25252Eau%25252FPetes-Pilots%2526srcrot%253D705-53470-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D980980633187)





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Title: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: Zeeflyboy on February 29, 2016, 03:42:18 AM
The 1/6th scale (12") action figure market is just full of absolutely incredibly detailed models and accessories for this stuff... Anything outside of that is much harder to find a good standard...

On that basis I figure just always go for a 1:6 scale model and you're sorted :)

Title: Scale Pilots - size?
Post by: BigT on February 29, 2016, 09:14:37 AM

Quote from: skyscraper on February 29, 2016, 08:26:10 AM
Head down to Asda and you can be the pilot   :laugh:

https://www.asda-photo.co.uk/bookings/asda-3dme-a-miniature-3d-figure-from-asda-photo (https://www.asda-photo.co.uk/bookings/asda-3dme-a-miniature-3d-figure-from-asda-photo)

I would guess you can get it scaled to whatever size you want within reason...

regards
Andy
How weird is that!


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