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General Category => FPV Legalities => Topic started by: BlueFlyer on May 07, 2016, 06:12:39 PM

Title: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 07, 2016, 06:12:39 PM
I've heard numbers like 5km and 5 miles bounded about, regarding the legal distance to stay away from airfields.... but does anyone know the ACTUAL legal distance and have the source for that information please?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: wgt40w on May 07, 2016, 08:55:32 PM
Read this:

     http://www.fpvuk.org/fpv-law/ (http://www.fpvuk.org/fpv-law/)
Title: Re: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 07, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
That doesn't state the distance from an aerodrome, just that you are not to fly within an aerodrome traffic zone.

However I've just googled the definition of an aerodrome traffic zone and it's as follows:

QuoteAerodrome Traffic Zones (ATZ) are circular zones around an airport with a radius of 2 nmi or 2.5 nmi depending on runway length, extending from the surface to 2,000 ft (600 m) AAL (above aerodrome level)

it's worth noting that Military bases have bigger zones with 5nm long stubs extending from that circle in line with each end of the main runway.

QuoteMilitary Aerodrome Traffic Zones (MATZ) usually consists of a circular zone with a radius of 5 nm, extending from the surface to 3,000 ft (900 m) AAL (above aerodrome level).

so in short:

Civilian Airfield 2.5 nautical miles or 4.63km (so 5km just to be that bit safer)
Military Airfield 5 nautical miles or 9.26km (so 10km just to be that bit safer)

Title: Re: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 07, 2016, 09:17:52 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/general/ATZMATZ.png)
Title: Re: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: Ratty on May 08, 2016, 12:01:48 AM
We have a flying field next to Heathrow. I mean right next to it. So there are some exceptions.

I'm still surprised we are allowed to fly there.
Title: Re: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: wgt40w on May 08, 2016, 01:09:43 AM
BlueFlyer

It's not as simple as you say - look at the link below - most of the larger airports have irregular shaped zones.

                 http://www.noflydrones.co.uk/ (http://www.noflydrones.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 08, 2016, 01:26:32 AM
wgt40w

No, it is actually quite simple... my original question was regarding the legal distance from an aerodrome, nothing to do with controlled airspace or no fly zones (the "irregular" shaped zones on that map).

The CAP answers this question by stating you shouldn't fly within an ATZ... ATZs and MATZs are defined as above.

Also, I refuse to take anything seriously from a website that uses the word "DRONE" and prefer to use a more reputable site with ALL the relevant information, rather than that just cherry picked for "drones"

http://notaminfo.com/ukmap (http://notaminfo.com/ukmap)
Title: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: Cockney Boy on May 08, 2016, 06:48:44 AM
Quote from: BlueFlyer on May 08, 2016, 01:26:32 AM
Also, I refuse to take anything seriously from a website that uses the word "DRONE" and prefer to use a more reputable site with ALL the relevant information, rather than that just cherry picked for "drones"

http://notaminfo.com/ukmap (http://notaminfo.com/ukmap)

The CAA uses that word lol
Title: Distance from aerodrome?
Post by: BigT on May 08, 2016, 11:07:22 AM
The EASA have just (last month) made a ruling that the word Drone will be used to describe any rotary or fixed wing UAV or UASV regardless of size. So the CAA are bound by the European legislation to use the word. Personally I hate it.

For further information on legal operation of UAV and UASV refer to the ANO and relevant CAP. It will depend on weight of the UAV UASV, eg article 168 refers to above 7kg.

There is a new regulation for pilot registration in the RoI that prevents the operation of ANY model aircraft weighing more than 1kg  within 5km of an active airfield, airdrome or airport.
https://www.iaa.ie/news/2015/12/21/iaa-successfully-rolls-out-world-s-first-online-drone-registration-module

https://www.iaa.ie/general-aviation/drones

Obviously we have not got as far as registration in the UK but the CAA rules are similar for operation within atz
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