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Video Equipment => Goggles - Screens => Topic started by: Coyote on December 30, 2020, 11:15:17 PM

Title: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on December 30, 2020, 11:15:17 PM
Just about to take the pluge and swap out all my analog kit for teh DJI HD stuff. I think it was the development in the hobby I needed to get back into, I wasn't enjoying the rubbish flight image, but now they look like they have changed the game.

How's anyone found them ?

Are the Caddx cameras a good alternative to the DJI ones ?

Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Drone 5 on December 31, 2020, 01:45:06 PM
Hi Coyote.
Like you I have a lot of analogue stuff but would love to get into the DJI stuff.
Keep us posted on how you get on.

I got some new Skyzone OLED goggles about 6 months ago which greatly improved the picture from my old Fatsharks.

What do you think about the Fatshark SharkByte system. Do you think its worth going that route?
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: omegooliebird on December 31, 2020, 02:55:15 PM
4 guys at our club have it.. absolute game changer. I won't buy it because it will obsolete about 2-3k's worth of analogue gear..tracker, goggles, vtx's antennas etc. But, my clubmates fly out 2-3km with perfect picture even close to the ground. It works perfectly. Caddix is much lighter, picture is great from all of it apart from the lightweight camera option, apparently that's a bit crap. But my mtes could see my Spitfire camera turning round to look at them.. they can also tell their AR wings apart from the patterns/colours when in flight, when I am mistaking puddles and birds for them lol. I will dive in on the V2 when it has an HDMI output and OSD/FC. One thing to note is that the goggles are bidirectional, and chuck out some serious RF which messes with my 1.3 video rx for some reason. Recorded video is not as good as Gopro.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on January 02, 2021, 01:10:12 PM
Thanks Rupert, very good info ! I didn't realise the 1.3 interference was a thing, that's noted.

The SharkByte system just seems to be lacking imo compared to the DJI unit to me Drone. Its analgue which for me falls way short of expectations.

Now there's a hack to connect mavlink to them its the clear winner.

But yes, waiting for the V2's might be the smarter thing to do. I think I am going to wait for the V2's to be honest.

I'm hoping for 2 changes :

1) HDMI output - Its a must reallyfor an external monitor and/or recorder

2) Recording of the OSD, whats the point of having GPS coordinates displayed if they arnt recorded in case of a downed plane, crazy not to have it.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on January 11, 2021, 11:37:47 PM
Well the videos are popping up on the V2 features.

Slightly higher screen resolution ( but no OLED )

144hz refresh rate I don't need it so it isn't a carrot.

No hdmi output !  ☹

No mention of the OSD being recorded now

Works up to 6S - Not interested

Being able to link my phone to USB so it acts as a spare screen is an option for an external monitor, but only if its a tablet !

Meh, really disappointed to be honest.

The smart move due to the lack of wanted features being offered is to pick up a second hand V1 when certain types are compelled to buy the V2 because of FPV snobbery 😆
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: FPVSteve on January 12, 2021, 12:51:42 AM
What about SharkByte? It has an integrated DVR and is digital - not sure why you think it's analogue?

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Shark Byte is your ticket to HD Whooping goodness!  Rip your winter FPV indoor sessions with the only HD system designed for micro quads.  No need to invest in a whole new set of goggles as the Shark Bytes receiver module works with your existing HDMI ready FPV goggles and the 200m  transmitter and camera weigh in at less than 20g!   With superior clarity, stable color and minimal breakup Shark Byte takes your micro flying to the next level!

Shark Byte delivers near-zero visible latency High Definition 720p 60FPS video on your Fat Shark HDO2, HDO, HD3, and more. This digital HD system supports up to eight operators on standard 5.8GHz FPV frequencies and can be used alongside analog systems without interference.

Fat Shark’s new Shark Byte digital HD receiver is a compact goggle mounted module with integrated DVR and directional antenna.  While mounted, the Fat Shark goggle can be seamlessly switched between digital and analog.   Goggles can be even stored in their case without removing the digital module.

The goggle and module can both be powered by an existing Fat Shark battery (with included balance lead adapter).  For longer flight days, the system includes an XT-60 terminated adapter with a regulator to supply 8.4V to goggles and module from standard 3S or 4S battery packs. Omni antennas are not included.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Xup on January 12, 2021, 02:41:54 PM
Ian, if you go for the caddx Nerbula go with the pro version only, pic quality is up there with the dji unit.
None pro nebula is crap really compared to DJI or the pro nebula camera.

Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on January 12, 2021, 08:24:10 PM
SharkByte is terrible imo, I keep saying analog when of course its digital. No idea why, I blame Corvid lol Everytime I see it it just looks like a low res analog system with really bad digital breakup.

Nice tip Martin thanks 👍
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: FPVSteve on January 12, 2021, 11:33:57 PM
DJI goggles are massssssive though which is a down point.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: pilkinn on January 13, 2021, 04:07:11 PM
I switched to the DJI system a few months ago. In use I absolutely love the system, price-wise not so happy. The 2 things I've changed with the goggles are the foam face plate (swapped it for the other, more squidgy, foam one from DJI) and the head strap (now using a single wide strap).

I've just got a Caddx Nebula Pro camera and it's up there with the DJI camera in terms of image quality. It also costs less and is a few grams lighter which is no bad thing. Also with the Caddx Nebula Pro the co-axial cable is separate from the back plate and so swapping between the 8cm and 12cm cables is more convenient.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on January 13, 2021, 10:53:50 PM
Thanks :)

I was looking at options for extending the camera cables and it seems there are no longer options than 12cm, I hope that's only because not many make longer, as opposed to you cant go longer than 12.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Xup on January 13, 2021, 11:15:42 PM
20cm cable here  Ian, unmannedtech link.

https://www.unmannedtechshop.co.uk/product/caddx-vista-coaxial-cable/?v=79cba1185463 (https://www.unmannedtechshop.co.uk/product/caddx-vista-coaxial-cable/?v=79cba1185463)

I tried the DJI softer foam, for me I liked the standard harder foam but with shims fitted on the side of the goggles.
Also using single band thick head strap(ethix)



Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on January 14, 2021, 11:24:51 PM
Ah cool thanks Martin :)

I think I'm going to go V2, for the simple feature of linking it to a phone, essentially like they do with the rest if their range. I think that's as good as its going to get for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on January 14, 2021, 11:57:28 PM
Although it now appears DJI have pulled the V2 pre orders and do gave all the retailers too.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on February 03, 2021, 01:07:31 PM
Well from what I've been hearing, DJI pulled the sales because of all the disappointing reviews just before the launch.

Then they sent surveys out to all the reviewer acknowledging people were not happy and then asked what features the reviewers want in the V2's

So looks like hdmi output might be getting integrated after all. Glad they decided yo do this. I can't see OLED being added without a price hike though.

Another interesting development was the first batches of V2's that arrived in the states were rejected by customs as well.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: FPVSteve on February 03, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Strange - I would have expected them to do the market research on a V2 based on feedback from V1.

Have you seen the cheap SkyZone Cobra X box goggles? They have an HDMI import so you can use them with the Fatshark digital systems if you attach a receiver module to them. They're only missing the OLEDs really, everything else is the same - including a good DVR.

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Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on February 07, 2021, 12:41:00 AM
Interesting, not a bad idea to have the hdmi input, but I'll hold on, not flown in over a year so not a massive rush while lockdowns still "in force" - You wouldn't know it up here, people just ignoring everything now, then wondering why the numbers are still increasing.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: FPVSteve on February 07, 2021, 03:32:50 PM
Sounds familiar mate. Should set up a Zoom or something, been a while.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on February 07, 2021, 11:57:22 PM
Yeah should do, been ages
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Xup on February 08, 2021, 12:18:12 PM
Getfpv has just had stock in of the V2 Ian, won't be long now for UK stock.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on February 08, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
I hope it isn't true lol, unless they are dumping the initial stock that no one really wants hehe.

I'd rather wait, especically when they know people arnt happy with the V2's lack of wanted features.

At the price they are I'd hate to drop all that money, just to find a month or two later the ones I did really want came out and I was left with the ones no-one wants anymore.

So I guess then I'll wait for the V3's :rofl:
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Xup on February 08, 2021, 11:06:20 PM
Think it's more of a case of it's only an upgrade to serve the new drone due, think you'll be waiting a couple of years for anything else.

I love mine and no intention of upgrading from the V1's.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on February 08, 2021, 11:25:54 PM
Yeah I know what you mean, do I pull the trigger, do I wait .. for something that may / may not happen.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Xup on February 11, 2021, 12:11:17 AM
Worth watching Ian, very little difference between the v1 to the so called v2.
In some ways with the diversity on the V1 I think they have gone backwards with the v2!.

https://youtu.be/1jxTidSRXD0 (https://youtu.be/1jxTidSRXD0)

Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on February 14, 2021, 08:20:34 PM
Yes interesting watch, well I've committed to my drive getting done in May, so the funds are there to make up that bill until I earn the extra myself. So for at least 1 month I'll have to wait till I've covered it, might be a blessing :)
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: wgt40w on March 05, 2021, 01:24:26 PM
V2 DJI Goggles now available £529.32 @ Banggood.com
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on March 07, 2021, 08:16:12 AM
Well I have hit my savings target by next week, so drive is a go !  ( Sad when its got to the point in my life when getting the drive done is exciting lol )

But that also means the funds are available to buy the goggles, but I'm still of the train of thought that its going to be a bad investment as they are undoubtably going to bring out the V3 soon enough and the V2's wont be sought after and wont hold any price at all ( like most of our other kit ) so I think the smart money says hold off until they make the goggles you want.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: FPVSteve on March 09, 2021, 12:08:50 AM
I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on the DJI FPV Combo with the V2 goggles.... the wife's already given the green light (she must also want something expensive).

I wasn't really that interested until I watched a lot of the footage and I'm starting to really like it - it just seems a bit of a winner to me - I know it'll just work, and the footage is great with a bit of "fun" thrown in. The protection of RTH on a freestyle quad with a HD view is really appealing for some reason.
Title: Re: DJI HD V1 FPV
Post by: Coyote on March 09, 2021, 08:30:30 AM
They do look fantastic for sure, then the V2's are dual band, which of course meaqns the V1's are obsolete pretty much already, just waiting for them to add HDMI out really, the rest I can live without.