Storm OSD / Fail safe question

Started by helimadness, October 23, 2013, 05:19:09 PM

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helimadness

Hi All.

Ordered a Storm OSD so I have a RTH system so I can start testing some longer range.
It is only 2 channel so no throttle control. So assume you put you fail safe throttle on say 50 or 75 % so it has plenty to get home with.
But what about the other channels? Should you turn fail safe off? Assuming the Storm RTH will take over if you go out of range. Will they start to fight each other if the fail safe is turned on ??

Just been watching some videos so when I get it im good to go and didn't see and answer for that one.

Cheers

vidal

Hey
I found that if you crash when failsafe is on. The failsafe kicks in as you will lose signal. This has burnt one esc out and set one motor on fire.  Its still better than losing your model though

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helimadness

Quote from: vidal on October 23, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
Hey
I found that if you crash when failsafe is on. The failsafe kicks in as you will lose signal. This has burnt one esc out and set one motor on fire.  Its still better than losing your model though

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I guess that will happen. Hopefully when the fail safe kicks in and the RTH takes over it gets it home safely. Guess you cant cover ever occasion and it might happen.

Cheers

CurryKitten

You should set your rx failsafe to switch to RTH on Storm, and then give it 50-60% throttle (depending on if you think that's enough on your plane in most circumstances).  The other channels aren't of too much importance, as once it's in RTH it ignores your elevator/aileron/rudder input until you switch it to manual again.

The idea being that if it looses signal, failsafes then turns round and comes back - you can then take control back once you are in a safe range.

That's pretty unlucky vidal - like everyone keep saying, RTH is not infallible.  I test mine on every flight, but there's a whole host of other things that could stop it from coming back.  So if you are doing things like pushing for more range, other things to consider are to ground record always, know your area/plan your flight - have an idea about places/landmarks you could put down if need be, have the GPS coordinates displayed all the time.

Just some ideas

helimadness

Quote from: CurryKitten on October 23, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
You should set your rx failsafe to switch to RTH on Storm, and then give it 50-60% throttle (depending on if you think that's enough on your plane in most circumstances).  The other channels aren't of too much importance, as once it's in RTH it ignores your elevator/aileron/rudder input until you switch it to manual again.

The idea being that if it looses signal, failsafes then turns round and comes back - you can then take control back once you are in a safe range.

That's pretty unlucky vidal - like everyone keep saying, RTH is not infallible.  I test mine on every flight, but there's a whole host of other things that could stop it from coming back.  So if you are doing things like pushing for more range, other things to consider are to ground record always, know your area/plan your flight - have an idea about places/landmarks you could put down if need be, have the GPS coordinates displayed all the time.

Just some ideas

Thanks for that. So the RTH doesn't automatically kick in if it loses TX signal? You need to have your fail safe turn it on ? Just have to work out how to do that on my TX. JRXG7. It is either on or off. The only 3 way switch I have I guess is not a channel but a way of changing flight modes on the TX... Need to read up on that sure ill work it out.
Will test some throttle % in different conditions. I guess need enough to handle max rate of climb to the RTH set height without stalling. Should be easy enough to test.

I am recording all my flights to my laptop.
Flying along a park next to a river so plenty of easy landmarks along the way.
Ipad with google maps ready to chase if needed :-)

Cheers





Jake Bullit

So to  set FS with my orange rx(with FS) do I just rebind with my DX6i  with the throttle set at app 50%?
:)"Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads." :)

CurryKitten

helimadness, it depends how you've setup you Storm to switch modes between manual/pa/rth.  A 3 way switch is the ideal thing - it operates on the single channel to switch the modes.

I don't know how you failsafe is set (ditto with the orange rx Jake), but for example, on my FrSky rx what I do is on my radio flick the switch to activate RTH, have neutral ail/ele/rudder and have my throttle at 60% (ish), then I press the failsafe button on my rx.  This basically means if no signal is received put all channels as I've just done.

So Storm itself doesn't have a clue about failsafing, it's the rx that failsafes and puts Storm in the right mode to come on home.

Obviously when setting your throttle failsafes, you might want to take the prop off, or have someone hold it so it doesn't go all mental on you :D

Shikra

Bignose13 is the expert on storm failsafe !!! LOL maybe he can add some value.

I don't have the storm, but on my DOSD just set up failsafes to be what you want when you click teh RTH switch. Sticks centered, swithches if RTH mode and throttle at a little bit more than what it takes to maintain cruise altitude.
Still flying up my own arse ....
And giving Bignose one up his..
Moister than an Oyster...........

helimadness

I can set my fail safe on each channel of the TX. It has the 7 channels and you turn them on or off then push a button to set the position. Do one at a time.

I just need to work out how to do it with the 3 way switch. Might be obvious when I get to that point. I only have one 3 way switch that I use for flight modes on my helis. That just changes the pitch and throttle curves on the TX. I guess using it as the flight control for the storm it needs to be a proper channel.

Have it all setup but busted the GPS plug off the board when plugging it in. Totally pissed. The plug had to go deeper than the outside of the case to get in right so gave a bit of a push with a screwdriver and it popped the surface mount plug off the board. Didnt push that hard only enough to get the plug in. Totally surprised me.
Now going to have to try and get the tiny little thing soldered back on. Might try and just solder the wires straight onto the board. Only 2 of them.

cheers

_tj_

Quote from: Jake Bullit on October 24, 2013, 01:15:34 PM
So to  set FS with my orange rx(with FS) do I just rebind with my DX6i  with the throttle set at app 50%?

Jake did you find out how to do it?

If not.

Power the rx.
Remove the bind plug. (You'll notice the flashing is different)
Set throttle on tx 50-60% ish
Put tx switch to RTH mode
Now bind to rx.


Don't forget to check it works on the ground (remove prop)

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helimadness

Well got my Storm GPS plug soldered back on the board and all working.
On the JRXG7 TX I assign the 3 way switch to AUX2. Then in the failsafe on the AUX2 channel put the switch into fail safe mode and push the clear button which sets the fail safe to that position. Same with the throttle put the stick were you want it and push the button to set. Really easy.

Only problem when I was setting the throttle and checking the other I must have pressed the clear button with the switch in normal mode so when I tested and turned the TX off in flight it went to normal mode not RTH. Found out my mistake later and corrected. All working perfect on the ground now. Unfortunately it got to windy to do more flights now Im not going to get a chance to fly again for another week.

Cheers

Jake Bullit

Quote from: _tj_ on November 01, 2013, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Jake Bullit on October 24, 2013, 01:15:34 PM
So to  set FS with my orange rx(with FS) do I just rebind with my DX6i  with the throttle set at app 50%?

Not tried it yet,but thanks for the info :)



If not.

Power the rx.
Remove the bind plug. (You'll notice the flashing is different)
Set throttle on tx 50-60% ish
Put tx switch to RTH mode
Now bind to rx.


Don't forget to check it works on the ground (remove prop)
:)"Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads." :)