Someone doesn`t like Phantoms

[Gundummy]

I don't think anyone is criticising the kit... more the user it attracts.

The amount of them sat on police desks waiting to be reclaimed is impressive.

[wgt40w]

I don't think anyone is criticising the kit... more the user it attracts.

The amount of them sat on police desks waiting to be reclaimed is impressive.

;D  How long do the users have to sit on the police desks for ??   :D

[Gundummy]

How long do the users have to sit on the police desks for ??   

hopefully the phantoms have enough power to fetch them back!

[Coyote]

So do you now consider yourself as :

A professional photographer with a Phantom

Or

A professional aerial photographer ?

[krikey]

Interesting arguments. I'm of the mind that its not the kit that's to blame but the user. Of course there will be some flyaways. Of course some crashes, that's not new. Presumably fixed wing newbies have been crashing for years!

Guns are safe until they are handled by people. Cars are safe until we step into them and press pedals and buttons.

The difference is where and how people think they can fly their aircraft. For instance, I bet few new flyers consider that they could lose their finger from a spinning prop of a multirotor until they do, but a food mixer would have a warning on the blade! Common sense? Of course! But we lost common sense a while ago and have something called consumer sense, which essentially means "someone else has considered the risks so I don't need to". I wouldn't dangle a food mixer over a crowd of unsuspecting people so why should I dangle a quad?

When you put a DJI Phantom on a shelf in Tesco then its assumed (wrongly so) that its a proper toy, something to have a giggle with, even at the price they are. I would suspect that a percentage of people don't consider crashing them when they buy them, especially if they have never flown anything before thinking that good old retailer has sorted all that out for them.

Sure Tesco don't sell them (yet) but hopefully you get my point. Perhaps (and I hate to say it) it is too easy to get one and fly one irresponsibly/ignorantly and people perhaps are not made aware of their dangers as much as they are shown how much fun they can be.

[stevec]

The thing with the phantom is that it is not being sold as an rc toy for enthusiasts, the phantom is simply a fancy flying camera.

They are marketing them to photographers not modellers.

Coming from that base the photographer thinks of the new angle possibilities and goes for it.

There is nothing packaged with it saying about the rc aspect and to be fair they are so easy to fly that pretty much anyone can do it. Meaning there is no initial failure and then the seeking out of a club to learn how to fly it.

So the photographer has no reason to look up how to operate safely.

Common sense applies but not everyone is blessed with that.

/Steve


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[Heliotrope]

The thing with the phantom is that it is not being sold as an rc toy for enthusiasts, the phantom is simply a fancy flying camera.

They are marketing them to photographers not modellers.

Coming from that base the photographer thinks of the new angle possibilities and goes for it.

There is nothing packaged with it saying about the rc aspect and to be fair they are so easy to fly that pretty much anyone can do it. Meaning there is no initial failure and then the seeking out of a club to learn how to fly it.

So the photographer has no reason to look up how to operate safely.

Common sense applies but not everyone is blessed with that.

/Steve


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Spot on. People to who mock the photographic ability of these things remind me of the old David Bailey/Arthur Daley advert for Olympus where the real expert had a small reasonably capable camera but an wonderful eye for composition, whilst Arthur had masses of photographic gear but not a clue ho to use it. It's horses for courses - I wouldn't use a Phantom for lot of AP work but for some jobs they are perfectly fine.

I've had an enquiry today from someone who is thinking about buying a Phantom to show some building developments who clearly knows nothing about the rules. If he'd done even a little bit of homework he'd see the problems, but at least he's asked me and you can guarantee that there are many people out there who wouldn't even try to find out. Why? because it's fun and it's looks easy and nobody wants to have their little dream spoiled.

We all know that there will be some high profile accidents or incidents in the UK with these things sooner or later, it's just a matter of time. Who knows what the outcome will be.

[Ynot6]

exactly my earlier point, cracking piece of kit (but i'd prefer another colour myself), but frequently misused, mostly due to ignorance.

[electrotor]

Another Phantom hater.  ;D

Angry ram takes down a drone... and its owner

[krikey]

fantastic video. The RAMifications of his actions are quite apparent

[Heliotrope]

Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for posting this :laugh: :laugh:

[Ynot6]

fantastic video. The RAMifications of his actions are quite apparent

:facepalm:

[Heliotrope]

Will he be the butt of people's jokes?

[krikey]

I bet he felt a bit sheepish after that encounter. Keep em coming.

[Gundummy]

aww Krikey.... ewe would say that...