Cyclops Storm wants to commit suicide!

Started by jweaver, August 11, 2015, 10:54:41 PM

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_tj_

Think we've all done it to some extent.

The rush, excite of getting that 1st flight of the day in....... oops..... knew I should of checked that....

I once tried an orange dsm2 rx and built in stab in my new bixler 2.

Everything worked on the ground, but............

I forgot to check stab mode, and the ailerons were reversed.
I had to do 2 circuits before it stuck that they were reversed, nice safe landing though.

Lesson learnt,

2 Weeks ago, a friend got a new tx and forgot it was new when he got to the field.
Setup box at field after realising the settings were on the old box.

Took off, Ailerons were reversed.
He attempted to reverse it whilst in flight, which would have worked...........

Had the ailerons not been in 2 separate channels.
This turned them into elevators lol
FPV:-
Mini Talon & MFD
Sky Cruise 2400 - Cyclops Tornado - 700tvl
Skywalker v6 - Cyclops Tornado - 7

jweaver

So my original problem is certainly solved, but I am not sure I am out of the woods yet..

During the time I have been trying to sort this out, my Storm has crashed/frozen/locked up about 15 times.. It always seems to happen when I press a button on the keypad to try and get into the menus.

Typically, the crashes I get are

1. Black screen.. Now HUD
2. Menus.. With missing options
3. HUD with odd icons instead of numbers
4. HUD frozen

The only way out of this is a power reset and I can't believe this is normal....

I don't recall having a crash in normal operation.. I think it only happens when using the buttons and trying to get into the menu.. But its a little unsettling to say the least.. That said, I am pretty sure that even when its crashed, it still works and I can still control the plane (not sure about RTH or PA though).

On top of this, I am now more and more convinced that I am seeing Gyro drift and/or Lag... On my last flight, I had it trimmed and flying perfectly flat and P/R was near enough 0/0.. But after a turned, my pitch would show 10-20 and would slowly recover, even though I was flat and level.. So I wonder if this is similar to the examples given on the first page by CurryKitten and elmattbo.

I still dont' trust it and am not sure what to do next.. How were those issues fixed?

Jon


Has anyone else seen in


_tj_

I had missing characters once after I flashed a new firmware.

Reflashing the ap cured it.

Could be an issue with the button board.
FPV:-
Mini Talon & MFD
Sky Cruise 2400 - Cyclops Tornado - 700tvl
Skywalker v6 - Cyclops Tornado - 7

jweaver

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Quote from: _tj_ on August 19, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
I had missing characters once after I flashed a new firmware.

Reflashing the ap cured it.

Could be an issue with the button board.

I don't think its the button board.. That is just 3 switches and it works perfectly.. It 'feels' more like Software to me...

When my programmer arrives, I will reflash it.. But the lag and crashing is very unsettling.

jweaver

Just as a closing update.. I reversed the Ailerons and everything appeared to work normally.

I managed to get 3 batteries worth of flying in on Saturday.. The first 2 to build some confidence in the plane and general and to try PA and it all went very well. I did see PA do something a little odd/aggressive at one point, but I suspect it was after a bunch of sharp turns, so teh gyros were probably confused.

My list battery was flown entirly FPV, and I forgot how much I enjoyed flying this way.. 60% of the time was spent with PA enabled and it was very stable..

I am still not 100% convinced that the gyros aren't lagging a bit.. And I am struggling to get my "trim" right, as sometimes I appear to by flying straight and level at 0-1.. And other times +10.

But there is no doubting that when in PA mode, the plane stays locked at altitude and keeps its heading, so I think I am 99% of the way there.

A huge thanks to everyone for their help with this.. I am gutting that I made this simple mistake, as it increase my nerves/paranoia, rather than helping me.. But hopefully now, if I can get a few flights in without any problems, I will soon get my confidence back.

Thanks again

Jon

_tj_

Nice to hear all is working ok now.

And your enjoying it, that's the main part of flying anything.

Now,
Just remember to reset the gyro if you only go flying once a week.
I do it everytime I go to field, even if it's only the day after the one before.

You will gain more confidence with each flight.

I'm struggling to enjoy my Hawkeye 1700mm, it has some severe issues.
But that made me transplant the AP to my Super GIANT bixler AKA Sky Cruise 2400.

I completely forgot what that was like to fly until last weekend.
I enjoyed it that much, I brought a couple of 10A 4s lipo's for it.

Although I need to make another Pitot tube for the Tornado or steal it back from the Skywalker.
It makes a big difference imo.

Happy Flying ...........
FPV:-
Mini Talon & MFD
Sky Cruise 2400 - Cyclops Tornado - 700tvl
Skywalker v6 - Cyclops Tornado - 7

jweaver

Quote from: _tj_ on August 24, 2015, 04:38:33 PM
Nice to hear all is working ok now.

And your enjoying it, that's the main part of flying anything.

Now,
Just remember to reset the gyro if you only go flying once a week.
I do it everytime I go to field, even if it's only the day after the one before.

You will gain more confidence with each flight.

I'm struggling to enjoy my Hawkeye 1700mm, it has some severe issues.
But that made me transplant the AP to my Super GIANT bixler AKA Sky Cruise 2400.

I completely forgot what that was like to fly until last weekend.
I enjoyed it that much, I brought a couple of 10A 4s lipo's for it.

Although I need to make another Pitot tube for the Tornado or steal it back from the Skywalker.
It makes a big difference imo.

Happy Flying ...........

I will remember that for sure, I am fly very seldom especially as I am a 'fair weather' type. So will add "reset gyro" to my checklist.

I have now started work on my next project (a 250 Quad), so I suspect this will get used even less.... I think for me, I enjoy the build and learning more than the actual flying.. But I would like to get some hours into the Riot whilst I can.