new Connex / Hobbyking HD FPV System

Started by FlyingRock, April 26, 2016, 12:28:33 PM

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How much would you be willing to pay for an HD FPV solution? (total cost including VTx + Camera and VRx)

less than £100
4 (16.7%)
£100 - £250
12 (50%)
£250 - £500
3 (12.5%)
£500 - £1000
1 (4.2%)
don't care about HD FPV, happy with analog
4 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 24

Voting closed: May 06, 2016, 01:48:23 PM

Badlands

We recently switched from PPM to SBUS which reduced the control lag from around 80m/s to around 10m/s.

In real-life terms this is massive - ask anyone who has flown SBUS to go back to PPM - its horrible!

With 50m/s of delay a 60mph quad can travel 1.4meters - that's the difference between making & hitting a gate!

If this new system is around 10m/s or less lag then it will def change FPV racing.
It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense...

FlyingRock

new short video, mainly typical mini quad crashes:



Broadcast quality seems to be 720p 60 frames.

Spookfish

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Amimon have come up with.
I'm hoping it really is a game changer, but at the moment I remain skeptical. If there's one wish I could have for FPV flight it would be better picture quality.

My main questions are...

What is the range? And will we be able to improve with better antennas etc?

Does the system use/include its own HD camera?

What is the form factor and weight?

What aspect ratio is the image?

And of course... How much £££?

Guess we just have to wait til next week. Hope this is the beginning of the future.

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wgt40w

Quote from: Spookfish on May 02, 2016, 01:47:00 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Amimon have come up with.
I'm hoping it really is a game changer, but at the moment I remain skeptical. If there's one wish I could have for FPV flight it would be better picture quality.

My main questions are...

What is the range? And will we be able to improve with better antennas etc?

Does the system use/include its own HD camera?

What is the form factor and weight?

What aspect ratio is the image?

And of course... How much £££?

Guess we just have to wait til next week. Hope this is the beginning of the future.

  +1
You learn something new every day.

Spookfish

I got another question... will it have it's own display/goggles? That will surely push the price right up.

I'm thinking it will also be useless if you are using an OSD, so kinda rules out most fixed wing flight. Hmmmm :+

So for the moment, it's only real use would seem to be what they're pitching it for... Mini quad racers. Really hope the latency is not gonna be an issue then.
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wgt40w

Quote from: Spookfish on May 02, 2016, 02:38:28 PM
I got another question... will it have it's own display/goggles? That will surely push the price right up.

I'm thinking it will also be useless if you are using an OSD, so kinda rules out most fixed wing flight. Hmmmm :+

So for the moment, it's only real use would seem to be what they're pitching it for... Mini quad racers. Really hope the latency is not gonna be an issue then.

Don't some mini quad FC's have basic OSD's ???
You learn something new every day.

Spookfish

Quote from Amimon on another popular RC Forum;

Size and weight

Getting the HD link is just the first step, one of the key factors was to keep it small. at 45gr. for the Tx+ HD camera we were able to keep the size to the minimum.

The size of the camera is: 28x20x27 mm and the transmitter is at: 70 x 36.5 mm
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FlyingRock

#22
[I was editing the post as spookifsh beat me to it...]

here are the info links and latest video

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34639083&postcount=29
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34671407&postcount=101


Spookfish

Ha ha I nearly posted that vid also. ;D
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dogzilla

Cool more footage of poodling around doing piss all. Oh look a roll LOL. No offence to people who poodle around but it's hardly a test is it.

If I had a system as good as they claim it is, I'd at least have someone semi-competent try and put together a decent video. Fly around a course faster than walking pace would be a good start.

Spookfish

Quote from: dogzilla on May 03, 2016, 02:40:48 PM
Cool more footage of poodling around doing piss all. Oh look a roll LOL. No offence to people who poodle around but it's hardly a test is it.

If I had a system as good as they claim it is, I'd at least have someone semi-competent try and put together a decent video. Fly around a course faster than walking pace would be a good start.

I agree. Although the signal looks remarkably good given the location. A video by someone like Skitzo FPV flying the sh1t out of it would be better to put the latency woes to bed.
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Loopdreams

I know HD links will eventually be the thing but I think I'll quite miss looking forward to seeing the HD footage when I get home.

Spookfish

Quote from: Loopdreams on May 03, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
I know HD links will eventually be the thing but I think I'll quite miss looking forward to seeing the HD footage when I get home.

I think it'll be quite some time before we're flying FPV with a gopro quality downlink.
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Spookfish

Some more details

Features:
- Uncompressed 720P High-Definition over a Digital-Link
- Support range of up to 1000ft/300m LOS
- Keeping zero latency, real-time video at all ranges
- 30 available HD channels over 5.8GHz (5.1GHz-5.8GHz) with easy to set options
- Offering solution for the novice racer as well as high-end racing
- Providing a spectators mode
- Built-in OSD capabilities
- Region-less Tx compatible with any Rx
- Mobile App configuration tool over bluetooth

Amimon New FPV Zero-Delay Camera features:
- HD 720P camera
- FPV optimized for indoor&outdoor flights
- Advanced hight-dynamic-range supported
- Dimensions-28x20x27mm
- 105 degree FOV with fixed lens
- Compatible with vision transmitter only
- Power up from vision transmitter
- Weight is 13g, 6g for the camera and 7g for the lens

Amimon New FPV Zero-Delay Transmitter specifications:
- Power consumption: 3.5W
- Power input: 6V-15V, 2S-4S battery supported
- Antennas: two external MMCX connectors
- Weight: 30g
- UX: 2 LED- status indication only
- Interface: Power in (4pins)
Power out to the camera&recorder
Micro USB-connection to application; wired pairing
Proprietary MIPI(14pin right-angle,JST SM20B-SRSS)-HD video input
- Environmental: Operating temperature: -10°to 50℃
Operating humidity: 10%-90%
Storage temperature: -10°to 75℃

Receiver specifications:
- Power consumption: 3-3.5W
- Power input: 6-28V, 2S-6S battery supported, reverse polarity protected
- Antennas: 5 antennas(5 external short SMA connectors)
- UX: 2 LED-status indication only;3 push button-for OSD control
- Interface: Power supply jack
Micro USB-connection to application; wired pairing
HDMI out- type A female
Bluetooth for application management control
- Environmental: Operating temperature: -10°to 50℃
Operating humidity: 10%-90%
Storage temperature: -10°to 75℃

Management application:
- Android & iOS Applications
- Bluetooth connectivity from mobile APP to vision ground unit
- Setting your device easily: Manual frequency setting
Regulatin&regional setting
Race mode for setting up races
- Built-in OSD-provides full functionality of OSD menu&buttons:
recording
choosing who to watch
Configuration of recorder, wireless setup&OSD

Your purchase includes:
- 1*Camera
- 1*Transmitter
- 1*Ground unit
- 1*Package of accessories
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Skywalker 1900
FPV Raven
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FPVSteve

They keep saying zero latency, I'm not sure they know what it means?

Here's hoping though!