UK Drone Registration Scheme

[FPVSteve]

I watched that this morning, he's absolutely right.

The question is - what CAN we do about this, realistically? The government / CAA seem to not be listening at all.

[Bertie]

I can understand a registration for people using craft for professional / public use. For hobbyists it makes no sense.
Its just a cash grab - I will not be paying for models I`ve had for years (quads and planes).

[FPVSteve]

Also...

What is this registration for? Ownership or usage?

Because if it's mandatory to be registered and I choose not to, I just won't fly he bigger stuff (I'll move onto sub-250g aircraft)  .... but will I still have to pay / register the aircraft in my garage?

[Bertie]

Ok so it will cost £16.50 to be registered as an owner and the Pilot registration is free. Simple - one person registers as an owner and everyone registers as pilots. we all have the same number on our quads.

[The flying cat]

he is wrong about the human right to not be forced to join an association, regulatory bodies are not associations, the bmfa/fpvuk are  associations, the governing body i.,e the CAA is not.
the success of this registration will be judged by how many people, or how much money is raised through prosecutions and or fines, the more the better in the eyes of the government, just like  speeding fines as an example.only that will prove there was a need for it in the first place.
otherwise the scheme will be judged as ineffective....

steve makes a good point , should i finally bin my 15 year old thunder tiger raptor that is built, never flown and in a cupboard, should i bin my align 450, 250, models that i no longer use, but dont want to sell for peanuts, how about my rocket powered Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet that is still in its box, never built, lest the po po storm my house and find them citing that im some sort of potential terrorist due to my ownership of them??? what about all the spare parts for various models that i have that could be used to build a model plane / heli / quad, if i ever get bored enough to bother?
this is a part time, one of many hobbies that i have, and has been for decades, work / life makes it so, would i be better scraping or selling all the kit i bought last year, all now in storage due to major works on my house that has been going on since xmas, and will last for a few months more before i can even think about using them, and only then if other interests take a back seat?

[The flying cat]

i have to wonder what will stop a bad actor from 'stealing' a legitimate drone reg number, putting it on his/her drone, then using it to smuggle contraband into a prison, so if it gets grounded the blame will be put on an innocent law abiding drone pilot?
how could the innocent guy defend himself when the 'evidence' is clear due to the stolen reg number?
will he have to hope his 1984 style geo tagging device, i.e his smartphone can prove his whereabouts to prove his innocence? will his life be ruined after being arrested, finger printed, DNA taken for ever on a criminal database, and deemed guilty until proven innocent as is the way our legal system works despite the assertion that the opposite is true, as was the case with the couple arrested and vilified by the worlds global media during the gatwick fiasco?
innocent lives ruined due to the Roman style blood lust that still resides in the masses who love to see the emperor give a thumbs down as they cheer the death of a man....

[The flying cat]

also...would drone registration of even helped in the gatwick affair, as no footage was captured of the alleged drone anyway, never mind a reg number??

[Bertie]

also...would drone registration of even helped in the gatwick affair, as no footage was even captured of the alleged drone anyway?

Pretty much like this registration farce fella. Total rubbish.

[FPVSteve]

lol ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-48086013

[ched]

It does say down towards the bottom that it was spotted outside the exclusion zone and was reported by a pilot!!! So I would be surprised if it was a 'drone' at the sort of height an aircraft would be at 5 miles away from the end of the runway!!!
It also says the military detection equipment was removed at the end of March!! They also failed to say they actually detected anything with their new kit!!!

[BigT]

Also...

What is this registration for? Ownership or usage?

Because if it's mandatory to be registered and I choose not to, I just won't fly he bigger stuff (I'll move onto sub-250g aircraft)  .... but will I still have to pay / register the aircraft in my garage?

Both, operators and pilots, good question though.

[BigT]

I had an Interesting conversation with a retired CAA investigation officer on Friday. He is ex RAF pilot with thousands of hours flying Nimrods, Tankers, fast jets etc etc. I asked him, as a pilot, if he had ever seen anything in the air near his aircraft that he couldn't explain, i e UFO etc. Answer was, never. In his opinion 99% of pilots "drone sighting" are false. He is also definite  that Gatwickgate was a set up run as an inter service exercise to a) test the readiness and effectiveness of local forces to deal with an actual event. And b) teach said airport authority a lesson.

[BigT]

I see that the BMFA will be issuing a statement on their opposition to the registration fees later today.

[BigT]

Just had this in from the BMFA, Electro is right in saying its confused the issue. Mostly because they call it a Drone Registration System

[ched]

Just had this in from the BMFA, Electro is right in saying its confused the issue. Mostly because they call it a Drone Registration System

Cheers for posting. If you look at the flow chart at the bottom it says once registered it's for 3 years.
The also use model aircraft and drone differently without any definition.
I like how they are using the US scheme and the Ireland scheme to work out expected registrants. Problem is Irish one only covers over 1kg and is free, US one is cheap and no tests etc....
No real comparison, but I guess they have to work out a self funding scheme somehow.