Easter Lake District Meet! DATES SET

Started by Flyn, January 07, 2013, 01:54:32 AM

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What would you like to do in regards to post 37?

Fly 2 groups & switch locations after lunch
3 (18.8%)
Fly 1 group with lots of pals with regs on freqs & power ups - taking turns to fly
11 (68.8%)
I don't care
2 (12.5%)
I'll just meet up then drive off do my own thing thanks - Billy no mates option
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 16

Flyn

Quote from: keukpa on January 08, 2013, 10:26:43 AM
yeah, we need to think about what frequencies we fly on too!

on 5.8GHz, we should be able to get three flying at once, one at top of band, one in middle and one at bottom.

Going to be fun. I need to check out some digs....none of this camping melarky, I need by beauty sleep! LOL

Keukpa

Yep should be able to get at least 3 up given good enough ground separation. Should have a range on 5.8.

Yeah maybe camping will be a bit optimistic.

Also if anyone would like some left hand polarised skew antennas I'll be happy to make some to aid the interference free flying.

Randall

Just do maximum 15min flights i have flown in a club with 30 people turnouts (sounds a bit wrong) and it has been ok just dont take the pi55 with half hour flights.
Whos on BBQ duty ? ;-)

Flyn

I'm sure we can sort somit out, like a 2.4 vid hour.

I think realistically we have 2 options.

1. Fly 2 locations, one at the hill I flew the ZII & then another in a few valleys over then meet in the middle for lunch & catchup & then swap over for the afternoon.

Or

2. We stick to one large group where we have lots of spotters & time to fettle planes & chat & fire up the BBQ & then move on after lunch. This would mean a max of 3-4 flying at once & a good control on powering up & freqs.

Also realistically they may well be a few people who would like to come but for what ever reason won't be able to make it so it may not be as crowded as thought - I hope everyone who wants to come can, don't get me wrong it's an open to all meet!

Plus if we can either put in a few quid each for BBQ or just stick to bringing own food.

Flyn

FYI there's likely to no or very little phone signal out there so if we fly x2 groups a pre arranged switch time maybe needed & could be quite hard to organise.

Flyn

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3 keukpa (maybe)
4 steve w (maybe)
5 ginnerfpv
6 randall (maybe)
7 teamftp
8 aitch (maybe)
9 adrenalinjunki
10 mjc1970
11 loopdreams (maybe)
12 marklincs (maybe)
13 hase2
14 andy75
15 ratty (maybe)
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MarkLincs

Even if you limited everyone to one 15 min flight that's still going to take an age, and as for 3 flying at once I suspect many of use just stick to basic freq so two flying at once would be tricky enough...

I'd say 2 groups
Group 1. Would be those on UHF/35mhz and 2.4 video so they can not suffer the effects of the 2.4ghz radios

Group2 would be those on 2.4 radio and 5.8 video

Remember even trying to do a radio preflight a 2.4 radio could cause issue for a 2.4 video flyer...  Going to need very good channel control.
- Still learning every day -

Ratty

When we had the FPV bounce meet, we just all set up in a long line. UHF and 2.4 at one end and 2.4 and 5.8 at the other end.

When turning something on, you shout what you are about to turn on. "turning on 2.4 radio" "turning on 5.8 video" ect. If you her a scream back " ive lost video"  "getting interferance" you turn back off.

Being in a long line it worked pretty well, with only a few people that clashed. We had quite a few in the air at once.

MarkLincs

Quote from: Ratty on January 09, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
When we had the FPV bounce meet, we just all set up in a long line. UHF and 2.4 at one end and 2.4 and 5.8 at the other end.

When turning something on, you shout what you are about to turn on. "turning on 2.4 radio" "turning on 5.8 video" ect. If you her a scream back " ive lost video"  "getting interferance" you turn back off.

Being in a long line it worked pretty well, with only a few people that clashed. We had quite a few in the air at once.

I'll not be flying then if someone can just switch on in a long line and bleed all over my video or I could bleed all over them. (My transmitter will stay in its box until my allotted time, not just get it out and see what happens)

I Got Shoot down in the days of 35mhz and that was within a minute of making sure the guy on the same channel new I was going up. That day I learn't something important not to let it happen again.

- Still learning every day -

keukpa

I'm going with two failsafes....

1) Hoping by this time my Bixler 2 and Skywalker, or whatever I bring will have RTH enabled, so if I lose video, or TX then the RTH can kick in....hopefully...

2) I'm going to buy a small hamster and put it in my planes, if RTH does work, he can just take the controls and bring her down nicely!

Phun Times,

Keukpa

Ratty

Quote from: MarkLincs on January 09, 2013, 01:17:22 PM
Quote from: Ratty on January 09, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
When we had the FPV bounce meet, we just all set up in a long line. UHF and 2.4 at one end and 2.4 and 5.8 at the other end.

When turning something on, you shout what you are about to turn on. "turning on 2.4 radio" "turning on 5.8 video" ect. If you her a scream back " ive lost video"  "getting interferance" you turn back off.

Being in a long line it worked pretty well, with only a few people that clashed. We had quite a few in the air at once.

I'll not be flying then if someone can just switch on in a long line and bleed all over my video or I could bleed all over them. (My transmitter will stay in its box until my allotted time, not just get it out and see what happens)

I Got Shoot down in the days of 35mhz and that was within a minute of making sure the guy on the same channel new I was going up. That day I learn't something important not to let it happen again.


I wasnt saying thats what we have to do here, was just saying that multiple people can be in the air and similar freqs can be close to each other with no problem.

FPVSteve


electricmick

The lesson learned from the Mad Dogs meet was that with most people on 5.8GHz some sort of frequency control or slot allocation is needed. It was very frustrating for some people who spent a long time waiting to fly.

At the minimum we need to identify those on 2.4GHz video and ensure at least 1 mile separation from those on 2.4GHz radio or a time slot system.

For those on 5.8GHz then as keukpa said then we need to spread the people across the frequencies available which is much easier to do on the bench than at the field - I tried to do this at Mad Dog as everybody was on the same default frequency, it was crazy.
EasyStar, Skywalker V2, X8, Zephyr II, FPVraptor, Spidex, ZMR250, DG300. Eagle Tree stuff.

Randall

Seems like its going to be hard work with a large bunch of people. Even if you have two groups a mile appart that could still have impact if planes travel in wrong directions, might be worth having a few smaller meetings on a few different days as if im driving 5 hours im kind of hoping for more than half hour in the air. Lets all fly LOS that way no problems :-)

FPVSteve

Kinda sucks to have to separate into groups too considering we're all mates here! Would be nice to meet up with everyone.