After a successful day Flying i have lost my model
i was on the bottom field Flying over top of the pit top where i normally fly it was still in view of my spotter then i lost complete video signal i said shit spotter looked at me instead of model and in she went. Im not sure of the plane went behind trees into trees straigh after loosing signal. Its the trees that are next to Where we fly on top of pit top the one that goes straight down to the bottom path long strip I ave searched for hours with goggles and unable to get anything
reward given if this is found
model is a skysurfer. With 250mw immersion vtx and diversity uhf receiver
Why where you on the bottom field? Should fly from highest point, once you go over that pit top (considering how dense it is) it's going to kill your feed!
Sorry to hear you've lost your plane tho buddy....maybe it's in the same tree that mine is in??
Who were you flying with, anyone off here?
Hope you get it back!
Keukpa
No my partner no it's not in woods lol well it is but the long strip between bottom and tip field
Ah shame after you had such good flying earlier in the day... beware those immortal words "Just One More Flight..."
Hope you get it back mate.
ah god :(
there may be a good chance on impact your camera lead come out.
if you had your osd and tracker it would have stored the last location of the plane.
if i was you like john said i would fly from the top as you have much more open air for the signal at the bottom there is plenty of obsticals.
hope you get it back!!
Liam
Will have to order it all again now on hols from tommorow tho. Make me sonder If 5.8ghz is the best
5.8 sucks for penetrating objects but to be honest, you have to respect the fresnel zone regardless of frequency - you can't go behind objects at distance even with lower frequencies without dicing with death. Always recommended to keep line of sight, in fact it's not just recommended it's pretty much required lol.
Really sucks when its trees all im bothered about is the uhf receiver really
I'm back in the UK now so will built up the hex and come out on a search and rescue!!!
Amazing Simon u dont have to put apprexiate help there is a certain point in the wood bit Where im sure i get a bit of Colour on goggles but 6 hours of searching aint found anything Maybe with à good powerful aerial i may or a overhead view
I'm up for a bit of search and rescue! Time you boys up there again? Did you lose it towards the pit top or towards the woods?
Im on hill now guys
On way up
Had another look with fpv_newb 1 and 2 lol but no look.
Thanks guys
How did the search and rescue go
Just uploading the footage from last night onto my computer so I can scan through it all.
Had some flights low down around all the woods and could not see a thing!!... Lets hope we can spot it on the video????
Sorry to hear this.
I now have a lot of £££'s invested in FPV gear, not to mention the Zephyr build next. I am investing in one of these for myself and when we have Mad Dogs days...
http://www.com-spec.com/rcplane/index.html (http://www.com-spec.com/rcplane/index.html)
The transmiters are quite cheap, so pilots wanting extra security only need to buy the transmitters and a key local person has the receiver (the spendy bit) which will be me in South Ox and I suggest those of you who live and fly in clumps around the country maybe chip in and get a receiver and then each buy transmitters and spare batteries for your planes.
This unit has been tested in Oxford by someone I know who found his mate miles away hiding on a test. Guaranteed almost 100% retrieval every time!
If you're prepared to pay a reward, perhaps the money will be better spent buying your mate with the receiver a beer :)
Thanks everybody it aint put me off just need to wait until when i get back gonna get the antenna tracker and ezosd aswell. Well not sure about ezosd or cyclops as this is cheaper with rth aswell
Thanks very much to people that have helped
johnny go with ez its simply plug and play and will work spot on with all your other immerssion gear.
Liam
Cyclops - you'll outgrow the EZOSD in terms of features way quicker than the Cyclops with RTH - buy properly, buy once!
Quote from: Steve W on June 04, 2013, 08:03:56 PM
Cyclops - you'll outgrow the EZOSD in terms of features way quicker than the Cyclops with RTH - buy properly, buy once!
im sure simon would disagree ;D
surely the cyclops is no where near as easy to setup and as daveylc said in another thread they have poor reviews too?
Liam
Its a big money spend so think about what you wanna do in the future, tracking etc?!?!
Go with the new cyclops storm osd if your budget is low... It's a good bit of kit :)
Also nothing wrong with 5.8GHz check my videos I fly behind plenty of trees :D
Quote from: liambaker996 on June 04, 2013, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Steve W on June 04, 2013, 08:03:56 PM
Cyclops - you'll outgrow the EZOSD in terms of features way quicker than the Cyclops with RTH - buy properly, buy once!
im sure simon would disagree ;D
surely the cyclops is no where near as easy to setup and as daveylc said in another thread they have poor reviews too?
Liam
EZOSD doesn't have RTH that's what I meant Liam, so if he wants a RTH then the Cyclops is the way to go since if he buys an EZOSD he'll need to buy something else later on. Having said that, if he wants features then there are many other far superior OSDs than the EZOSD anyway. DragonOSD? HornetOSD ... even SuppoOSD and Remzibi I'd argue.
Plug and play is all well and good for basic setups, but the fact is if you want to do anything decent in FPV you're going to have to get the soldering iron out.
Quote from: Steve W on June 04, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
Quote from: liambaker996 on June 04, 2013, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Steve W on June 04, 2013, 08:03:56 PM
Cyclops - you'll outgrow the EZOSD in terms of features way quicker than the Cyclops with RTH - buy properly, buy once!
im sure simon would disagree ;D
surely the cyclops is no where near as easy to setup and as daveylc said in another thread they have poor reviews too?
Liam
Plug and play is all well and good for basic setups, but the fact is if you want to do anything decent in FPV you're going to have to get the soldering iron out.
Too true mate
Sad loss :-( if i was a bit closer i would have come out with the quad to help look but im a hood couple of hundred miles off. Go down your local small airfield go to the cafe and see if you can bung some one half there hire fees for a trip up in there cessna 152 or somthing most will be great-full of the hours to be honest trust me i know too many ;-)
Cyclops storm just seems a lot better IMHO but I don't know a lot lol. When I get back home paramotor will be coming out so I can have a scan subject to atc approval. Just looking at UHF receivers what's range difference between diversity and normal as I can pick a 4 channel up for less than 50 quid
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=96637¤cy=gbp (http://www.goodluckbuy.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=96637¤cy=gbp)
Total cost: $132.75 Ship With Tracking
Ordered new stuff from hobbyking can't believe how cheap it was just need to decide on a model now open to suggestions I want the model from uk may get bixler 2
Got a nice Zephyr Z2 with your name written on it :laugh: :laugh:
Was thinking about a wing pal for sloping at mam tor how much
sorry to hear about your loss mate.
As for the next OSD... I will also recommend Cyclops Storm OSD.
Thinking about the evolution of FPV....
1 - close in, often a simple voltage indicator OSD will suffice - got it covered with Storm OSD
2 - 1-2km away plus higher altitude flying, simple GPS based OSD with "home" arrow/indicator- got it covered with Storm OSD
3 - 3km+ away, plus 1k+ altidude, at least UHF/LRS RC for safety, and at those distances it's also better to be safe with a RTH system- got it covered with Storm OSD
4 - 5km+, directional high gain antennas with either diversity or antenna tracking system - damned bloody expensive jump, if you've got literally hundreds of pounds to spend on Automatic antenna trackers, multiple receivers, diversity controllers and directional antennas... a few more quid to change your OSD to a compatible one is pocket change. Also, take into account that Skylark AAT and MFD AAT have adapters that can use the existing OSD's GPS and transmit that signal down the audio channel.
something tells me that you're no where near step 4 right now (I've barely broken into step 2 mate), so for me, the best OSD you can buy is a Storm OSD for £88 delivered that gives you autolevel/stability, RTH and a very reliable and proven OSD.
Quote from: Baner on June 05, 2013, 01:38:04 PM
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Total cost: $132.75 Ship With Tracking
I got to see the "new" IMU based Cyclops in action on the weekend.. I'm not impressed :(
My mate has bought it for his Flying wing and you have to turn the gains down to 10% to stop the wobble and at that point the PA mode is doing sweet FA and RTH can barely fly the thing back.
I'm sure like its predecessor its more suited to more gentle flying craft like the Skywalker or a Bixler.
DaveyLC, I had a simular issue to that with my FY31AP at first. Just had to prat around with it for ages in the Zephyr. Got it working eventually. Funny thing was it was perfect in the X8?!!?.... odd. I suppose each airframe is different though and you need to set up to suit.
1x Ritwing Zephyr Z2 in stock Jonny!! £129.99 with free GoPro FPV box and skids......
http://www.flybys.co.uk/shop/index.php?id_product=33&controller=product&id_lang=2 (http://www.flybys.co.uk/shop/index.php?id_product=33&controller=product&id_lang=2)
I can glue it all up for you and help you with the build since your only round the corner ha ha.
Maybe I've been lucky? :)
I've used FY gear in all sorts: EDF's, Wings, High wing gliders, 3d planes and generally the units are close to spot on out of the box (other than some pot tweaking), some times to get it perfect you need to play with the PID settings.
Although I've had the same shitty experiences as everyone else when it comes to the FY91Q :D
I love my Storm OSD, my Bix 2 got blown way off course at Mad Dogs, I thought I was directly out to the left of myself, when I'd managed to go 1km behind myself. At this certain point behind my in a perfect line was a tree, and a church. My video went out completely in an instant, and my FrSky module went into beep overload. I flicked RTH and then sat there for ages (about 2 minutes.... but weeks in "I've got no video" time) As i was about to think about where on earth I was going to go and start searching for this obviously downed model video came back as my plane appeared and started circling.
I think like most things, it's worth investing the time to setup. On my first flights, PA was drunk and would stagger around left to right, first go of RTH it decided to go up and keep going up as it came back. These were both fixed by ammended the gains (up I might add for the aileron to it could react quicker). On the next flight I noticed the gyro's were a little off and I trimmed those.
For some it's great out of the box, for others it needs some work. Point is you would test RTH, PA and everything else until you did anything where you might *need* them
Certainly the best £85 I ever spent.
That wind was a killer at Mad Dogs... I managed to drift 1.8km away totally lost! But being a complete knob-end I didn't let my plane get a good GPS fix so it though home was somewhere else :-X
Had to put it in ACM mode, give the goggles and TX to Rich to get it back :-[
Thanks for the replies. So with the cyclops how much soldering will I have to do to get it to work with the fat shark vtx and cmq1993x camera
Also can I get one from uk anybody selling one lol
Also with cyclops storm OSd do I still need a step up from 5v to 12v for camera or not and finally do I still need a balance lead connection for vtx or does it also get power from vtx
Thanks
The Storm has a 12v out to power the camera - best look at the manual, it's easier to see how it goes together http://hobbywireless.com/docs/STORM%20OSD%20V1.0%20English%20Manual.pdf (http://hobbywireless.com/docs/STORM%20OSD%20V1.0%20English%20Manual.pdf)
You'll need to power the VTX yourself though, HobbyKing sell a little XT60 cable with a jst coming out as well (or make your own), that's seems the easiest way to me if you are doing all of it off of a flight battery
The 12v feed comes out of both sides of the video pass through on the cyclops so no need for another power loom to the VTX :)
So all I would need is a bundle of servi extensions to wire it up basically
Well save me 20 quid on step up an 15 quid on filtered balance power supply for vtx
depending on what aircraft you'll be going for I would suggest powering the Storm OSD from an independent LiPo, removes the requirement to fiddle around with LC filters etc and safeguards your video signal, should you drain your flight battery too quickly. e.g. lets say you drain your flight battery and have to ditch (or simply lose) your aircraft... if the flight battery is dead, or giving out very little voltage, then the FPV gear will not be working either... if it has it's own battery not drained by the motor/esc then the battery (depending on capacity) will be able to power your FPV gear for a fairly long period, allowing you to still see either an image of the location or perhaps gps co-ords. you can also use directional RX antennas on your vrx to triangulate the rough location.
you feed the OSD with 12v (3S LiPo), the OSD in turn feeds power to the camera AND the vtx and is now completely separate electrical circuit from the rest of the plane's power plant
Its interesting logic but I find most people just forget to change/charge the RC battery :D
To be fair your ESC should be cutting out long before the flight battery is drained to a point that it cannot sustain the RC/FPV gear.
Thanks for the replies so just to confirm the cyclops osd will power both 12v vtx and 12v camera. Ordered some ferrite clips connectors
Thanks
Well everything ordered now including fy31ap and hornet osd off bignose just need damn plane now, Simon what planes do u have in ready to fit equipment for when I get home lol cheers pal just persuaded our lass to get a tracker
Got a nice RiteWing Zephyr Z2, pop round when your back. I will let you drool on it :laugh: :laugh:
Lol is it ready with esc and motor. Want to be flying again ASAP
Needs to be able to fit all shit in it lol
Ohh there is LOADS of room in them. Mine fits bloomin' loads of kit in it.
Mmmm tempting me buddy. What would price be built and help me to set it up with fy31ap Etc
Ta