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Title: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 04, 2016, 11:49:11 PM
I have just ordered a falcon evo but would like a small fpv tough wing to practice with.
What would people recommend.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: iPeel on May 04, 2016, 11:56:43 PM
The Evo is pretty strong, I haven't managed to kill my latest one yet even going straight in at 60mph at the last Mad Dogs.

If you want to look after your Hornet and get something cheap and strong to bash about though, the Hornet is a great laugh.

http://flyingwings.co.uk/fpv-uav/fpv-wings/hornet-mini-fpv-racing-wing.html (http://flyingwings.co.uk/fpv-uav/fpv-wings/hornet-mini-fpv-racing-wing.html)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 12:14:25 AM
So are you saying hornets are good.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: CurryKitten on May 05, 2016, 01:25:54 AM
Hornets are good, and lots of fun.  It's hard to hurt them as they weigh practically nothing.

I'd get a Falcon Evo, but despite my original Falcon crashing and smashing in all ways and being at least 60% glue, it comes back together and still flies lovely.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jt on May 05, 2016, 10:06:57 AM
 I would highly recommend a wing wing to practise with, I fly mine like a mini quad(stupidly) and it's tough as tough could be, it is a bit beaten up now but the only thing I've ever broken is the canopy(equipment cover) and that was just a splodge of hotglue to fix. It's been crashed into trees, nose dived straight in to a field and all sorts lol. With a 1400kv, 6x5prop on 1300mAh 3s carrying a mobius and FPV cam and VTX, it goes really well, perhaps 7 minutes flying silly, 10 just chilling.

A video to show how it flys...

http://youtu.be/4ZVb_VO7cgY (http://youtu.be/4ZVb_VO7cgY)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
Could you send me a link to the wing your on about thanks
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jt on May 05, 2016, 10:19:29 AM
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=25663 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=25663)    :)

Told you wrong about the motor though in the previous post, it's the 2200kv one you want not 1400  ;)  http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28403__Turnigy_D2826_6_2200kv_Outrunner_Motor_UK_Warehouse_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28403__Turnigy_D2826_6_2200kv_Outrunner_Motor_UK_Warehouse_.html)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 10:35:31 AM
Any chance you could post some pictures of where you put your fpv etc
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jt on May 05, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_162834_zpsw5wj27rn.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150509_162834_zpsw5wj27rn.jpg.html)

This was when I first did it, I just cut a slot in the canopy for the board cam and 3d printed a little 'table' for the mobius(if you get one and don't have access to a printer I could do you one for postage). Later I cut out a small piece of foam out of the nose and put a fatshark cam in(just because I don't like the way those board cameras transition from light to dark lol)


Here's how it compares to the Falcon Evo.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/johnnyjtaylor/Mobile%20Uploads/20160505_092916_zpshahihz5e.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/johnnyjtaylor/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160505_092916_zpshahihz5e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 12:24:57 PM
Here's another option

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__82603__HobbyKing_8482_SkyRay_Flying_Wing_FPV_Model_1213mm_EPO_PNP_UK_Warehouse_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__82603__HobbyKing_8482_SkyRay_Flying_Wing_FPV_Model_1213mm_EPO_PNP_UK_Warehouse_.html)

(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/82600s(3).jpg)

This is the PNF version that comes with all the flight electronics... 2200kv motor, servos, ESC. no laminating, no building ply middle sections, no cutting blank foam for servos or gluing on motor mounts. Apparently as long as you've got a RX and LiPo to go in it, it's ready to fly in under 20 minutes out of the box.

At this price I'd say it's ideal for practising... you may not even want a Falcon EVO afterwards if it meets your requirements.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 06:26:54 PM
Thanks for all the info.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 06:53:05 PM
By the way,  since my post about the skyray, mines just turned up and I've already built it :)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 06:55:06 PM
How did it take to build
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 07:09:28 PM
About 30 mins including the fpv gear
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 07:16:55 PM
Can you post a picture with fpv installed.
Isnt it better to get a wing made of epp rather than epo as alot stronger.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 07:51:59 PM
Sure, just got in from taking my Daughter to swimming lessons...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/SkyRay/SR01.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/SkyRay/SR02.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/SkyRay/SR04.jpg)

Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 07:53:17 PM
Looks really nice,Loads of room
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 07:57:33 PM
Hobbykings has the price mixed up the pnp is cheaper than the kit.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 07:58:20 PM
yeah, went together really quick lol... surprised myself.

I commented on your thread because I had ordered this very plane... then literally about 10 minutes later the doorbell rang and it was the postie delivering it :)

Quote from: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 07:16:55 PM
Isnt it better to get a wing made of epp rather than epo as alot stronger.
It all depends.

EPO is moulded so the designers have more flexibility when designing the thing, also you don't need to laminate EPO as it's stiff enough already and the surfaces are nice and smooth.

EPP is just block foam and is cut to shape with hot wire to create the airfoil shape. EPP wings don't generally differ that much in terms of basic design, even the blunt nose ones are all pretty much the same basic concept. Once you get to around the 1m wingspan mark, EPP really needs to be laminated to add strength and rigidity.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 07:58:51 PM
Quote from: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 07:57:33 PM
Hobbykings has the price mixed up the pnp is cheaper than the kit.
I know :) :)  I bagged it as soon as I noticed that :) :)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 07:59:46 PM
The 30 minute build time even included me changing out their motor and ESC for a SunnySky 1400kv motor with 8x5 prop, and a 4S capable 40A ESC.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 05, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: BlueFlyer on May 05, 2016, 08:03:42 PM
with the dome nose, but my runcam2 hd hasn't arrived yet, so I'll be sticking with the foam nose for now and I'll be taping them on too... don't trust the magnets.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/SkyRay/SR11.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 06, 2016, 12:16:24 AM
What video transmitter size do you use
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on May 06, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
if it's your first wing then the smallest lightest thing possible. Hornet. Maybe the HK tek sumo.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Dillwhacker on May 06, 2016, 04:05:54 PM
I fly my HK Bonsai every time I go out - absolutely love the little thing!
Just about unbreakable, dead easy to launch, vertical climb, pretty aerobatic too, and land it in your lap.
;D
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 06, 2016, 04:07:53 PM
Do you have fpv on it
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Dillwhacker on May 06, 2016, 04:13:52 PM
Yes, Sony HADII board cam on the front, lightweight 200mW 5.8G TX on top over the COG.
2S 950mAH Lipo gives 8 mins of cruising or 5 mins of aerobatic hooning.
Weighs 220 grams AUW.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 06, 2016, 04:15:11 PM
Could you send me a picture of your setup
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Dillwhacker on May 06, 2016, 04:34:33 PM
Will do this eve when I'm home from work.
And it's got too dark to fly....
:P
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 06, 2016, 04:35:36 PM
ok thanks
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Dillwhacker on May 06, 2016, 11:01:46 PM
OK well here it is in all it's glory - which isn't much TBH!
It's a scruffy little bodged together turd that was never planned, it just sort of happened with Velcro and hot glue.
But in terms of smiles per quid spent, I like it...
Dynamic 12A ESC - the original 6A one caught fire...
Lemon LM0034 Diversity 2.4G receiver
FOXEER / Sony HS1177 CCD camera.
FX799T 200mW VTX with random skew RHCP thingy antenna.
HK / Turnigy Aerodrive 2118 3100 KV motor.
Cheap Gemfan 5040 prop.
Like I said, I'm sure there's a lot of alternatives recommended by folks on here that will perform better - I don't know - but this works for me and brings smiles every flight...


(http://s32.postimg.org/fx9l34sn5/060520163934.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fx9l34sn5/)

(http://s32.postimg.org/53f3xwsg1/060520163933.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/53f3xwsg1/)

Good luck & have fun !
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 06, 2016, 11:04:56 PM
Thanks for posting all helps to deciding what I want to get.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 06, 2016, 11:25:10 PM
What battery do you use
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Dillwhacker on May 06, 2016, 11:44:36 PM
These - 8 mins floating, 5 mins T.W.O. hooning...
http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__20389__Turnigy_nano_tech_950mah_3S_25_50C_Lipo_Pack.html (http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__20389__Turnigy_nano_tech_950mah_3S_25_50C_Lipo_Pack.html)
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Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: karlak on May 07, 2016, 01:23:18 PM
I would say a Hornet from personal experience.  I had the first style Falcon that I ragged to death, and now have a Falcon EVO, but in the meantime got hold of a Hornet from Flyingwings.  Jimbo19, also on here has ahd avery little RC flying and yesterday maidened his Hornet.  The wind was probably too high to be far, but the Hornet doesnt seem to worry too much.  These things are such a hoot to fly and can easily get 15 minutes flight time from a 800mah battery if just pootling around.

See on-board footage from yesterday - around 4:10 onwards, following a Wot4 E  in on a Landing and right at the end of the Vid, our attempt at a Hornet Syncro Landing..  Jim may pop on later, but he was really anxious about the maiden, but got on really well :)

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gl8QiAgipg#)

And my Hornet, all built up.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/simfin/20160402_145700_zpsoyod8fwo.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/simfin/media/20160402_145700_zpsoyod8fwo.jpg.html)




Title: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Jake Bullit on May 07, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
Been having fun with my light weight Z84 setup,easy to fly and nearly twenty minutes on a knackered old 3s

http://youtu.be/m8SisvDP8kI
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 05:18:49 PM
All look so good,So different to my 250 quad racers.Decisions decisions.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 05:26:08 PM
What battery do you use on a hornet.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jimbo19 on May 07, 2016, 06:17:46 PM
Honestly get a Hornet so much fun and in my limited experience very easy to fly - it has given me loads of confidence and would buy another in a heartbeat if I trashed this one

As Karlak said we were flying for 15 mins yesterday on one 800mah 3s battery !!
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 06:18:59 PM
Any particular c rating
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jimbo19 on May 07, 2016, 06:20:44 PM
20c - cheap as chips

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__26722__Turnigy_800mAh_3S_20C_Lipo_Pack_E_flight_Compatible_EFLB0995_UK_Warehouse_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__26722__Turnigy_800mAh_3S_20C_Lipo_Pack_E_flight_Compatible_EFLB0995_UK_Warehouse_.html)

Rob also sells them with the kits , so just get all from Rob at Flying Wings - if that's what you go for
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 06:24:34 PM
Whats the build time on it.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: Tufty on May 07, 2016, 06:37:34 PM
Here you go one of Flyingwings models which Rob had refurbed for me to practice with, flew it twice got straight back into flying wings again ( had a few of Robs over the years ) and then moved straight on to Falcon and Vent !!
Can't fault them have helped me enormously getting going in FPV !! Although very addictive  :o
(http://s32.postimg.org/4xlfyx5fl/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4xlfyx5fl/)

(http://s32.postimg.org/deky9ua4h/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/deky9ua4h/)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: karlak on May 07, 2016, 06:38:55 PM
Quote from: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 06:24:34 PM
Whats the build time on it.

Like Jim would know ;)

He dropped it round here on the Wednesday night and picked it up Friday.  Just waiting for the UHU Por glue to dry is the limiting factor.

Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jimbo19 on May 07, 2016, 06:40:44 PM
Build time for me was 2 of the 800mah Batteries  :P
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 07:16:06 PM
Nice what size video transmitters do you use on them also would a frsky d4r be ok on them.
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: jimbo19 on May 07, 2016, 07:49:09 PM
Yep using d4r-ii on them and a 600mw mini vtx .............errr i mean 25mw ;)
Title: Re: Recommend cheap practice fpv wing
Post by: mrorange26 on May 07, 2016, 09:10:05 PM
ok thanks