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Title: News from Banggood
Post by: marcin on October 15, 2016, 02:35:48 PM
http://m.banggood.com/Insight-5_8G-1080P-100mW-Full-HD-Digital-Video-Transmission-System-p-1089016.html?p=1Y02003432615201601R (http://m.banggood.com/Insight-5_8G-1080P-100mW-Full-HD-Digital-Video-Transmission-System-p-1089016.html?p=1Y02003432615201601R)
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: FPVSteve on October 15, 2016, 02:42:57 PM
Exciting times :D

Wonder how well it works?
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: bignose13 on October 15, 2016, 03:16:18 PM
I've put my name down, well worth it if it's as good as the description 🙏
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: electrotor on October 15, 2016, 03:31:18 PM
Just a tad cheaper than DJI's Lightbridge.  ;D
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: SnoozeDoggyDog on October 15, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
No bitrate specs  :(
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: iwan_canobi on October 15, 2016, 08:04:42 PM
Hmm, not liking the sound of 'Video Output:5G Wifi Full HD Video Output (Connect the Android Smart Phone or Ipad by APP and they can be used as monitor.)'

I know that's how a lot of them work but it means you couldn't use a screen or goggles, and there will likely be lag added by going through WiFi and an app.
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: marcin on October 16, 2016, 01:16:07 AM
Quote from: iwan_canobi on October 15, 2016, 08:04:42 PM
Hmm, not liking the sound of 'Video Output:5G Wifi Full HD Video Output (Connect the Android Smart Phone or Ipad by APP and they can be used as monitor.)'

I know that's how a lot of them work but it means you couldn't use a screen or goggles, and there will likely be lag added by going through WiFi and an app.

Don't think it's made for racers anyway so little lag on bigger birds won't affect that system if it's working OK, giving 1080p ..
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on October 16, 2016, 01:27:16 AM
I'm really not convinced by these HD systems. IBCRAZY is testing one atm and it's really nothing special.

Isn't the ideal range of these things about 2km? which must mean far less when flying low behind a couple of trees etc?
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: FPVSteve on October 16, 2016, 02:21:25 AM
They're ideal for larger quads though - I mean 2km is a BIG ASS radius with one of those and being able to fly in HD is awesome.
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: Loopdreams on October 16, 2016, 03:03:41 AM
I don't fly fixed wing further than that anyway.  I'll probably bite when they're less than £100
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: Billy_boy_2010 on October 16, 2016, 09:24:30 AM
Quote from: Loopdreams on October 16, 2016, 03:03:41 AM
I don't fly fixed wing further than that anyway.  I'll probably bite when they're less than £100

True- but that's 2km in ideal conditions.

Fly lower, humid day or a bit of fog, flying low behind a free and suddenly you're really struggling even quite close.

I hope I'm wrong.  And yes to fly in real HD is a game changer for sure of its reasonably reliable. 
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: mutley2 on October 16, 2016, 10:07:22 AM
Will have to wait and see on this, chuffed they are now pushing 1080p, it will get better and cheaper as more units sell but when to jump in?
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: FPVSteve on October 16, 2016, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: Billy_boy_2010 on October 16, 2016, 09:24:30 AM
True- but that's 2km in ideal conditions.

Fly lower, humid day or a bit of fog, flying low behind a free and suddenly you're really struggling even quite close.

I hope I'm wrong.  And yes to fly in real HD is a game changer for sure of its reasonably reliable. 



There was a guy on here not so long ago who had a working HD link on his Skywalker using Raspberry Pi's I think.. presumably if someone can cobble components together DIY then these people with an R+D department can come up with something cool. Hopefully anyway :D

Certainly worth looking forward to anyway, the next five years will see some nice kit!!

Unless we're regulated into oblivion that is :D
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: English Turbines on October 16, 2016, 10:27:32 PM
Did I read that right..?....A 100mw HD VTX on 5.8G..?.....1.5kms?.....Really, like to see it first.....Why is it only 100mw output?

  The other niggle is the Monitor you display it on....?.. Last time I looked at a glass screened Tablet in Sunlight you could barely see it..? Goggles simply dont have the resolution to do it justice either.

Its not a negative observation, it's just a fact..... :+
 

:vulture:
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: FPVSteve on October 16, 2016, 10:29:33 PM
Yea but we have to start somewhere..
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: electrotor on October 16, 2016, 11:44:54 PM
Quote from: English Turbines on October 16, 2016, 10:27:32 PM

The other niggle is the Monitor you display it on....?.. Last time I looked at a glass screened Tablet in Sunlight you could barely see it..? Goggles simply dont have the resolution to do it justice either.

Its not a negative observation, it's just a fact..... :+
 
:vulture:

Well actually.....

http://www.banggood.com/Skyzone-SJ-V01-5_8G-40CH-FPV-Goggles-7-Inch-1280x800-HD-Video-Glasses-with-HDMI-Input-p-1041124.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Skyzone-SJ-V01-5_8G-40CH-FPV-Goggles-7-Inch-1280x800-HD-Video-Glasses-with-HDMI-Input-p-1041124.html?rmmds=search)

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Goggles-One-5-Inch-5_8G-40CH-Raceband-HD-1080p-72-Degree-HDMI-FPV-Goggles-Video-Glasses-p-1043694.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Goggles-One-5-Inch-5_8G-40CH-Raceband-HD-1080p-72-Degree-HDMI-FPV-Goggles-Video-Glasses-p-1043694.html?rmmds=search)

http://www.banggood.com/Fatshark-Dominator-V3-FPV-Video-Goggles-Glasses-WVGA-720p-HDMI-800X480-p-1000597.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Fatshark-Dominator-V3-FPV-Video-Goggles-Glasses-WVGA-720p-HDMI-800X480-p-1000597.html?rmmds=search)

I've just taken delivery of the Skyzone googles and initial testing is good just hooking up to the back of the PVR. I was having some difficulty getting a mini HDMI (DJI connection) to micro HDMI (Skyzone connection) lead but have finally sourced one.
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: FPVSteve on October 17, 2016, 12:28:55 AM
Thing is you can also use a screen - a big one - in the back of a van :D
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: English Turbines on October 17, 2016, 12:37:59 AM
Quote from: electrotor on October 16, 2016, 11:44:54 PM
Well actually.....

http://www.banggood.com/Skyzone-SJ-V01-5_8G-40CH-FPV-Goggles-7-Inch-1280x800-HD-Video-Glasses-with-HDMI-Input-p-1041124.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Skyzone-SJ-V01-5_8G-40CH-FPV-Goggles-7-Inch-1280x800-HD-Video-Glasses-with-HDMI-Input-p-1041124.html?rmmds=search)

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Goggles-One-5-Inch-5_8G-40CH-Raceband-HD-1080p-72-Degree-HDMI-FPV-Goggles-Video-Glasses-p-1043694.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Goggles-One-5-Inch-5_8G-40CH-Raceband-HD-1080p-72-Degree-HDMI-FPV-Goggles-Video-Glasses-p-1043694.html?rmmds=search)

http://www.banggood.com/Fatshark-Dominator-V3-FPV-Video-Goggles-Glasses-WVGA-720p-HDMI-800X480-p-1000597.html?rmmds=search (http://www.banggood.com/Fatshark-Dominator-V3-FPV-Video-Goggles-Glasses-WVGA-720p-HDMI-800X480-p-1000597.html?rmmds=search)

I've just taken delivery of the Skyzone googles and initial testing is good just hooking up to the back of the PVR. I was having some difficulty getting a mini HDMI (DJI connection) to micro HDMI (Skyzone connection) lead but have finally sourced one.

Hi,

Fair comment, but when I said goggles, I meant goggles in the conventional sense, not a 5 Inch screen in a box.

800 x 480 resolution? on tiny eyeball size screens is not what I call HD either........and the 5 inch Screen will look better than the F.S. goggles for sure.....Pixels are Pixels.

A true HD downlink requires a Tablet type screen to display it on to justify having it in the first place. Compare the size of a 7 Inch Tablet with one of your (conventional) Goggle screens. Wearing goggles to watch an HD feed is a bit pointless IMO.

  Just saying........ :vulture:





Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: FPVSteve on October 17, 2016, 12:41:50 AM
Yea but.... analogue FPV came, then goggles... now digital FPV ..... the goggles will come.

I bet you within a couple of years HD FPV is ubiquitous and we all laugh about "the good old days" of fuzzy fields and not being able to see branches to avoid them.

I'm waiting for the retina implant myself :D ... hope noone pulls my ground station over :o
Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: English Turbines on October 17, 2016, 01:16:31 AM
Quote from: Steve W on October 17, 2016, 12:41:50 AM
Yea but.... analogue FPV came, then goggles... now digital FPV ..... the goggles will come.

I bet you within a couple of years HD FPV is ubiquitous and we all laugh about "the good old days" of fuzzy fields and not being able to see branches to avoid them.

I'm waiting for the retina implant myself :D ... hope noone pulls my ground station over :o

  LOL....Yep Steve....I personally think FS and Skyzone have a cheek advertising their very expensive Goggles as "HD"....clearly it's stretching the truth to say the least....Shocking misrepresentation.

  Of course, it all hangs on how small they can make a pixel, and I think that has its physical limitations.....Having watched a live HD downlink from a Phantom on a seven Inch Tablet, have to say it's stunning, as long as the Tablet is well out of the Sunlight.
  The glass screen is a reflection generator,as well as being poor in direct or even indirect sunlight. Now that problem I can see them fixing very shortly......Not so sure about Goggle Screens measuring 25mm x 19mm though..?


          :vulture:

Title: Re: News from Banggood
Post by: Loopdreams on October 17, 2016, 09:01:53 AM
At the moment we're mostly all effectively using VGA so there's a vast gulf of difference between that and say 1080 resolution.  So it's far from pointless to use current "HD" goggles and a system like this to make the jump even to SVGA because the difference would be night and day.