ERM What can I say but here is the London video from TBS.
Just pretend it ain't in the UK and enjoy it :laugh: :laugh:
http://youtu.be/ghDXBIy_BSM (http://youtu.be/ghDXBIy_BSM)
Cool as the video is, I think they're a bunch of dicks for making it.
Asides from where, what, when and why. You gotta indeed admit that this is one pretty nice video!!!
Yea it's alright but I've seen buildings before, prefer the mountain sloping and air proximity stuff tbh, stuff you don't see on a normal basis.
Looks like they got nabbed by the rozzers at the end. :laugh:
"You're f@%kin nicked me ol' cock sparra!"
That said it's a pretty cool vid.
Leaving aside arguments over the legality.
How TBS see themselves:
(http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2011_Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon/2011_transformer_dark_of_the_moon_022.jpg)
(http://blog.newscom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/epaphotosfour467724.jpg)
How people see them:
(http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2008/brothers-in-virtual-reality.jpg)
"RC Daredevils", gimme a break.
Quote from: Steve W on November 14, 2012, 08:26:32 PM
Yea it's alright but I've seen buildings before, prefer the mountain sloping and air proximity stuff tbh, stuff you don't see on a normal basis.
100% percent agree with you there!!! Far more exciting ;D
Yeah putting the "issues" aside, none of us are ever going to make a video as good as that. Really well made and shot. Was it the right thing to do ? Well that`s discussed TO DEATH in the other thread
Yep, same for me.
Bunch of .............. (Fill in your own word here)
"ello, ello, ello, wot's goin on ere then?"
Ron
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EI8GMB - G6IWK
Quote from: Coomkeen on November 14, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
Yep, same for me.
Bunch of good FPV flyers who most people are jealous of (Fill in your own word here)
"ello, ello, ello, wot's goin on ere then?"
Ron
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EI8GMB - G6IWK
Will that do :laugh: :laugh:
NOT DIRECTED AT YOU.....
As Coyote said there is a separate thread for the moans n groans of the rights and wrongs of this.
Lets pretend it is in some place that no-one cares about, Wales for example ha ha.... oh wait thats the UK to.
Yeah, good(ish) video, though not all that keen on some of the editing.
Nice flying have to admit.
Wales would have been better.
I'm surprised they didn't have RF problems with all the buildings and other networks/phones/etc.
Not moaning really.
(Well, not now anyway)
:)
Ron
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EI8GMB - G6IWK
best vid I've seen on this forum to date, lets face facts here any daft sod can fly round hills fields etc but who's got the balls to do london, new york,prague, and many other cities only TBS, keep up the good work lads and don't let the bastards grind you down (p.s as if they could LOL).
Yes you are right.
Watching a video of London wouldn't be my choice, but well done guys.
I wonder how many different locations or launch points they used?
Quite a few by the look of it.
And lots of editing together afterwards.
Ron
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I don't think it's much to do about balls, more about lack of common sense and thought for others. Loads of people on here could do that kind of photography and flying but IF something goes titsup, they might find themselves painting us all in a bad way ... TBS don't seem to see that and are only focused in pushing TBS, to hell with everyone else.
I can't wait for the day they try and pull a stunt like that around the Kremlin, or Tianamen Square ! It defo wont be "ello ello elli, what's going on ere then" it'll be more like "TBS, last seen being escorted off, never seen again"
Not that good a video when you consider it's supposed to be professional, I'd want my money back. Flying seemed OK, not as good as the slope soaring or close proximity high speed thrillers Trappy is capable of.
IMHO
Looked pretty good to me, from the flying to the video editing. I wouldn't do that myself and I certainly don't support the illegality of it of course but hands up who hasn't got any illegal-FPV skeletons in their closet.
Quote from: vanmantony on November 14, 2012, 09:29:55 PM
best vid I've seen on this forum to date, lets face facts here any daft sod can fly round hills fields etc but who's got the balls to do london, new york,prague, and many other cities only TBS, keep up the good work lads and don't let the bastards grind you down (p.s as if they could LOL).
I don't think it's so much balls as sheer disregard for the safety of others.
If you think their vid is the best you've seen here you've obviously never seen any of White Raven's videos. Here's one, the rest you'll easily get on Youtube.
http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,6510.0.html (http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,6510.0.html)
That was brilliant, I loved the closeup of the peeps in the London eye pods, and tower bridge and Big Ben, lets face it, its all good, if anyone was going to do it, I'm glad it was this bunch, thay certainly made a classic, and with their experience, it was probably the safest pilots to pull it of.
:) G
:o
Unfortunately this gives fpv and people trying to do it safely/properly a bad name in my opinion...
Hope they got a fine or their gear confiscated myself... Keep it to a field unless you have the correct permissions from the CAA....
Sooo dangerous flying in such a built up area.
Ps I could film and edit it better! :P
D
Quote from: hazardpro on November 15, 2012, 01:37:45 AM
Ps I could film and edit it better! :P
D
I must have missed that vid, do you have a link :P
;D
Wow bore off with all the health n safety comments!!
But it's worse than that. It's shitting on someone else's doorstep. If the CAA watch that and get their knickers in a twist about FPV what will the effect be on this "trappy" prick? Nothing at all.
Between that and the lame, desperate attempts to ride on the coat tails of extreme sports culture I've got no time for them, none at all.
^ what he said
I'm not too worried to be honest about the CAA seeing this and deciding that FPV must stop, I don't think Trappy will ultimately be responsible for shutting us down, as no matter what you legislate they'll always be one (or more) person/people who will ignore that and do it anyway.
As to the video - purely as a video I enjoyed it. There were angles and close ups of the bridge and Big Ben that I just hadn't seen before and I found very cool. A new persepective on things.
I'm not a stickler for the rules, I tend to think a common sense approach should be applied. However, flying over this number of people and traffic on a quad - which has many single points of failure that cause it to tumble from the sky - really is not good. Whilst TBS has great deal of experience, and a great safety record, my overwhelming sense here is wrongness - despite the cool stuff the video shows.
2 Zephs hurtling down the face of a mountain in close proximity is still far more exciting IMO
basic editing (for a "pro" team Bleh)
boring flying (quad up Big Ben? Bleh- where are all of the loops, rolls, proximity dives like in NY etc.)
boring subject (buildings? pavements? Bleh)
bad framing on some of the shots (london eye especially)
attention whoring (police at the end, oh look at us, We'z almozt gots arrested!!!11 lol)
Quote from: CurryKitten on November 15, 2012, 09:15:40 AM
I'm not too worried to be honest about the CAA seeing this and deciding that FPV must stop, I don't think Trappy will ultimately be responsible for shutting us down, as no matter what you legislate they'll always be one (or more) person/people who will ignore that and do it anyway.
Not this one single video, no. But I could certainly see it being shown in some meeting room somewhere as part of the evidence of why they need stricter rules. Just such high profile "targets" as it were it could very conceivably do a bang up job of raising the hackles of authority types.
At least it is clear to the CAA that this was not any UK resident as evidenced by the www.aufmschlau.ch (http://www.aufmschlau.ch) link, although only the video editor. I am sure the CAA has seen other Black Sheep videos and would be surprised if they did not visit London after their New York visit which was equally irresponsible.
average vid... nothing new... I skipped through it... the flying was poor and editing slap dash for a "pro" vid... just the usual "look at me" BS from these nob jockies.
portions of it were not FPV... not that that matters but its how they sell it.
I can honestly say that I won't.
I think it's a bit overpriced
I think the "cool" factor probably generates them more sales than they lose from people who think they're daft, hence their attitude - works for them commercially, so stuff everyone.
Nope.
Haven't and certainly won't now.
Ron
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EI8GMB - G6IWK
Quote from: Teamftp on November 15, 2012, 08:11:26 AM
Wow bore off with all the health n safety comments!!
I can only assume that you would not pursue TBS for damages if one if their quads failed in flight and took out your car winscreen or shed a blade whilst hovering in front of your face and took out your eye.
Certainly nothing is risk free. So you make an assessment and seek to minimise the risk. I cannot see that TBS were seeking to minimise risk by flying in such congested and populated areas or so close to people.
Rules and legality apart, they did not exercise common sense. It was purely a publicity stunt and did nothing to further the cause of FPV.
^^^ Wot he said.
Ron
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EI8GMB - G6IWK
There isn't a problem hear guys, thay don't live hear so it doesn't reflect badly on are flying, just because its FPV and thay happen to be flying in the UK, if it was a member of FPVUK or BMFA then I cane understand your concerns, I just watch these videos for what thay are. and in my opinion their great watching, and as for there not very well put together, there's les than a handful of people on hear, that come close to this skill of flying and editing, and I hope and dream, that one day to be half as talented as them.
:+ G
Well said G' dawg!!! ;D
The comments on the video are hilarious. It's quite hard to tell if their fan base consists mostly of 12 year olds, dribbling, illiterate morons or some hellish alliance of both.
Likewise the crap that comes out of the mouths of people who oppose simply appears to come from old cantankerous old gits who probably have no idea about the advancement of technology nor the merit of simply decent video production. We all have discussed the wider issues of the legal and moral implications of this but hey maybe they even missed out on that too.... Keep up old men cos soon you will be left far to behind to even have any valid points left!!!
The bit that makes me laugh the most is the fact some see it as another attempted invasion of the UK from an Austrian!!
By Simon, 12 years old..... Have I been a good boy Santa?!?
Quote from: Teamftp on November 16, 2012, 08:25:14 AM
Likewise the crap that comes out of the mouths of people who oppose simply appears to come from old cantankerous old gits who probably have no idea about the advancement of technology nor the merit of simply decent video production.
I, what? What is that even supposed to mean? The video production was ok, the music was dire and the there were no flying skills on show that made me gasp in awe. But any attempt to discuss their videos with anything other than gushing praise makes someone a "HATER", apparently.
I made a comment on their video myself, polite but asking questions, it got voted up and then deleted. Says it all.
Shit video or not, old Trappy is certainly able to ruffle up a few feathers........ PR genius, or just mild-mannered balding Austrian FPV geek?
Quote from: Loopdreams on November 14, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
How TBS see themselves:
(http://blog.newscom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/epaphotosfour467724.jpg)
How people see them:
(http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2008/brothers-in-virtual-reality.jpg)
to use the vernacular, PMSL...
...unfortunately it's good mantra for us all and a good reminder to do real life stuff which does actually sh!t you up a bit.
The fact TBS are having to re-stoke this on facebook and in forums says it all IMHO.
Quote from: Teamftp on November 16, 2012, 08:25:14 AM
Likewise the crap that comes out of the mouths of people who oppose simply appears to come from old cantankerous old gits who probably have no idea about the advancement of technology nor the merit of simply decent video production. We all have discussed the wider issues of the legal and moral implications of this but hey maybe they even missed out on that too.... Keep up old men cos soon you will be left far to behind to even have any valid points left!!!
The bit that makes me laugh the most is the fact some see it as another attempted invasion of the UK from an Austrian!!
I think your posting deserves a robust response for two reasons :
1. The flights were carried out in clear contravention of the ANO and CAP 658. These are intended to regulate the operation of all aircraft (ANO) and in particular model aircraft (CAP658) for the purpose of making life safer for everyone. There have been no posts in support of TBS with clear an cogent arguments as to the safe operation of their flight in the heavily populated and congested parts of London where filming took place and the danger in which they placed some people by close-in flying.
2. You have not confined your comments to the actions of TBS but instead have made it a personal attack. As I have been one of the people taking a position against this video it is clear that I am one of the people whom your comments about cantankerous old gits with crap coming out of their mouths is aimed at. This strikes me as a form of response which has come about because you have been backed into a corner, with no good argument for the video and have thus had to make it a personal. Surely you can do better than this.
BTW the nationality of TBS is irrelevant. They are required to conduct themselves according to the rules and regulations of the country in which they operate.
To be fair it was in response to me being a bit rude about TBS fans, so sorry about that.
Quote from: Loopdreams on November 16, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
To be fair it was in response to me being a bit rude about TBS fans, so sorry about that.
Yes but in the words of Teamftp : "Likewise the crap that comes out of
the mouths of people who oppose simply appears to come from old cantankerous old gits". The response was aimed at more than you.
Woah come on guys lets not get personal, I've met Simon (TeamFTP) and he's sound as a pound I'm sure he wasn't meaning anything against anyone here. I think to be fair he probably meant the commenters on YouTube as that was the context being discussed at the time. Maybe it's a guilty conscience, electrotor? :P trolololol! :P
Think we're getting a little too wound up here - at the end of the day Trappy is the one who will meet Bubba if the CAA are at all bothered by it. Let's let them worry about it. Weather's great :D
Quote from: Steve W on November 16, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Woah come on guys lets not get personal, I've met Simon (TeamFTP) and he's sound as a pound I'm sure he wasn't meaning anything against anyone here. I think to be fair he probably meant the commenters on YouTube as that was the context being discussed at the time. Maybe it's a guilty conscience, electrotor? :P trolololol! :P
Think we're getting a little too wound up here - at the end of the day Trappy is the one who will meet Bubba if the CAA are at all bothered by it. Let's let them worry about it. Weather's great :D
It was clearly aimed at people here such as myself. I considered it totally out of order and would never have responded in the way I did had it not become a personal attack.
Well, I was criticising the video too but I didn't think he aimed it at me - even if he did I have thick skin :) Let's not have fisticuffs between friends (god I feel like a moderator again! :laugh: )
Quote from: Steve W on November 16, 2012, 12:18:21 PM
Well, I was criticising the video too but I didn't think he aimed it at me - even if he did I have thick skin :) Let's not have fisticuffs between friends (god I feel like a moderator again! :laugh: )
I feel i need a hug right now ;D
If I even had any doubts about the "Likewise the crap that comes out of the mouths of people who oppose simply appears to come from old cantankerous old gits" comments, these have now been overtaken by a blatant personal attack.
Allow me to quote from your most recent post.
"..please feel free not to comment on any of my posts in future and keep your head firmly inserted in you self important, world righteous a-hole!!"
There can be no doubt now. Consequently I have reported your posting.
Oooh no I shall await the internet forum police knocking at my door!!
Gosh it is sad age that some people can not take a bit of banter and sarcasm......
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Sorry but I am actually laughing out loud at how self important you must feel if you think I am directing these comments at you. Why would I when I have no idea who you are nor have any reason to or gain anything from it.
The comments from the last post must clearly apply then?!?!
Under the terms of registration when signing up for this forum you agreed to not post any abusive comments. You have clearly breached this.
Oh dear, I'm new here and feel as though this is my fault. I can honestly say that at no point was I even slightly angry or upset, I stand firm in my view that Team Black Sheep with their self-proclaimed status as the "R/C Daredevils" are some massive bell ends but I wouldn't want to fall out with anyone over it. I like some of their videos and they have great toys but it's just their whole schtick and going to another country and buzzing around the parliament buildings is a dick move.
It's not your fault. People posting have had many differences of opinion on this Forum but generally confined the comments to the subject matter with a certain amount of friendly ribbing. It went pear shaped when banter became abusive and personal.
Quote from: Teamftp on November 16, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
I feel i need a hug right now ;D
If this was FPVLAB someone would come along and write - GAY ;D ;D
Teamftp......
PK-surfing here..... I've just red carded you buddy for being totally obnoxious in your language on the forum.
I'll leave it to Coyote (Admin) to decide what to do but there's no excuse for all that smart bolshy language you feel comfortable typing out.
I'm deleting your post with it in as this forum is viewed by all age groups.
PK
electrotor at what point did i directly address you???? ERM none at all..... You clearly feel this is a personal attack and this, I am sorry, but does humour me as it clearly is not.... If you feel it is fine by me no skin of my nose but wow wind your neck in a bit!!! Here is a little kiss to cheer you up :-*
PK - fair do's understood. But he started it, im telling my mum!!! :laugh:
Loopdreams - agree 100% about TBS ha ha!!
Right I am finishing this discussion now as it is wasting to many brain cells to argue with people who are clearly not worth my time.....
I think I may go and watch a TBS video and leave a snotty comment on how it maybe disrupting the flora and forna of the swedish mountain side they are flying down..... those poor daisies!!!
Quote from: Teamftp on November 16, 2012, 01:10:25 PM
electrotor at what point did i directly address you???? ERM none at all..... You clearly feel this is a personal attack and this, I am sorry, but does humour me as it clearly is not.... If you feel it is fine by me no skin of my nose but wow wind your neck in a bit!!! Here is a little kiss to cheer you up :-*
PK - fair do's understood. But he started it, im telling my mum!!! :laugh:
Loopdreams - agree 100% about TBS ha ha!!
Right I am finishing this discussion now as it is wasting to many brain cells to argue with people who are clearly not worth my time.....
I think I may go and watch a TBS video and leave a snotty comment on how it maybe disrupting the flora and forna of the swedish mountain side they are flying down..... those poor daisies!!!
You directly addressed me twice which is what caused me to report the postings. One has now been removed and the other edited by a moderator. I think this speaks for itself. Up until then I gave you the opportunity to explain that it was not personal. Unfortunately you did not take this.
When a situation develops such as this any chance of subsequent humourous banter is lost and the attempt simply reads as petty sniping.
I'd be happy to stop here and now if you are.
HA HA yes indeed.....
Once again it was simply NOT addressed at you at all.... You took it upon yourself that it was.
Sorry if I offended but wow knickers in twist man!!!
No offense meant and SORRY if it did. Have a great day and it is now lunch time at work so im off flying!!!
Aww, you guys sorted it out and I didn't even get to post this:
Friends - Chandler - "Shut up, shut up, shut uuuuup!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuu1vPtnBYw#)
:laugh:
Quote from: Teamftp on November 16, 2012, 01:33:32 PM
HA HA yes indeed.....
Once again it was simply NOT addressed at you at all.... You took it upon yourself that it was.
Sorry if I offended but wow knickers in twist man!!!
No offense meant and SORRY if it did. Have a great day and it is now lunch time at work so im off flying!!!
Fly safe. I really do mean that sincerely. I wish I could fly at lunchtimes too but I work at an airport which makes it a little dodgy.
Cool as f#ck by the way :D what's next Team black?
I enjoyed that.
Well that went exactly how I thought it was going to.
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