Who else hates the Bitchler 2 and what is $ Tree Foam?

Started by Flyboysee, May 09, 2013, 02:30:17 AM

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Flyboysee

Hi guys!

This Bixler is giving me the craps. It's awful IMO and nowhere near the pedigree of the EZ* 1 or 2. I know a lot of you have had excellent results with the Bix and it's unfair of me to compare it to an EZ, but I reckon since it's such a close blatant copy I may as well. The big difference is the quality of foam. As far as the fuse and tail feathers goes it's great, maybe better than the EZ, but damn, this wing is so light and since I've done LED's and cables are channeled, there's just no space for carbon fibre. Where I've opened up for bigger servo's than the crappy stock ones, I'm almost out the other end! Wing flex is the big problem here with the Go Pro in a housing on a firewall on the nose, same as my trusty EZ. Wish I hadn't killed it!. I need a night flyer and I just don't trust this one.

I've done some LOS flights and it's OK, but OK ain't good enough for what I want to do with it :)

Enough bitchin about the Bix!

I want to build a Peace Drone from Experimental Airlines. Where do I get the material locally? Anyone done one yet?

Richard
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dirtyharry

can't you just stick some glass tape on the bixler wing , makes a mahousive difference to the flex on my beevolution

FPVSteve

Rich is the wing spar hollow? Maybe worth putting a smaller diameter rod inside it if it is - that might help stiffen it up a bit.

You could also put a line of transparent tape from one wingtip to the other, above and below the wing.

HTH.

CurryKitten

The wing spar is hollow - I meant to put a solid CF rod in there, but I was in a shop which sold them and forgot the diameter I needed.... I have a feeling it's 4mm, but don't know for sure.

Is that foam board the equivalent of this fabled DollarTree foam board as used in Flitetest and Experimental Airlines to build everything ?  I wouldn't mind a try of building something or other, but I've just no idea of the makeup of the foamboard

FPVSteve

You can get some from HobbyCraft, I picked up 10xA3 sheets for 25 quid (which is £££££££££ imo! )

Sometimes they have them cheaper, hardly DOLLAR though is it

fpsazerbaijan

Got my foamboard from here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOAMBOARD-5mm-A1-10-sheet-pack-Foam-Core-Board-/290599937646?pt=UK_Crafts_FramingMatting_EH&hash=item43a91b266e

Apparently, according to some folk on RCGroups, the paper backing peels off just like Dollar Tree stuff, but mine doesn't :(

Still, if you don't have a HobbyCraft near you it's not bad...

Still haven't built anything with mine yet  :laugh: All those cheap planes in the HK UK warehouse...

-Al  ;D

FPVSteve

The paper on the hobbycraft stuff doesn't just peel off either, you have to wet it first and even then its a pain. I just left it on in the end.

dogzilla

Multiplex foam is far superior to anything the chinese shit out, so that's no surprise to me.


Flyboysee

Quote from: Tim Chambers on May 09, 2013, 02:37:06 AM
Try this http://www.artdiscount.co.uk/product/white_foam_board_5mm/

Thanks Tim, that stuff looks great. I suspect they'll only send A3 due to shipping. I'll check the plans and see what's the longest piece require and see if this will work.

Many Thanks!
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Flyboysee

Quote from: fpsazerbaijan on May 09, 2013, 02:12:10 PM
Got my foamboard from here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOAMBOARD-5mm-A1-10-sheet-pack-Foam-Core-Board-/290599937646?pt=UK_Crafts_FramingMatting_EH&hash=item43a91b266e

Apparently, according to some folk on RCGroups, the paper backing peels off just like Dollar Tree stuff, but mine doesn't :(

Still, if you don't have a HobbyCraft near you it's not bad...

Still haven't built anything with mine yet  :laugh: All those cheap planes in the HK UK warehouse...

-Al  ;D

Thanks Al

That's a better size for me, will make anything I think with A1 length, cheers!
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Flyboysee

Hi

Thanks for all the replies. I'm pretty stoked to build my own Peace Drone and I think Ed is a pretty cool cat, so here goes... however, I see everyone complaining in the UK that the board available has a plastic cover on one side that cannot be removed easily, as in Ed's videos. I've seen a couple now and that's pretty crucial in building one of these. I'd rather not have to use any solvents, water etc. but rather just the right thing first time.

Anyone with experience here with this?

Cheers

Richard
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FPVSteve

On the HobbyCraft stuff it's not plastic Rich, it's thin paper - sort of a coating on the foam. It does come off if you wet it, but it's a bit of a chore.

It's also 5mm, not 6mm.

Flyboysee

Quote from: Steve W on May 09, 2013, 11:28:44 PM
On the HobbyCraft stuff it's not plastic Rich, it's thin paper - sort of a coating on the foam. It does come off if you wet it, but it's a bit of a chore.

It's also 5mm, not 6mm.

Thanks Steve, but not what I'm after. The whole point of EA planes is the quick and easy build (relatively). You basically score the foam with a knife to make the tubular fuse and then remove strips of paper in certain places and it allows for the correct bend etc.

Damn, there's the right stuff in Germany and Holland but they won't ship A1 outside of mainland Europe... The quest continues - I shouldn't complain, it's only been a day :)
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FPVSteve

Oh yea I know that - I was after the same thing when I made my F16 and WoodsWing :laugh: Couldn't find it anywhere except in massive lots for ££££