On Line Quiz To Test Your Knowledge on the RC Regulations In The UK inc FPV

Started by BigT, April 16, 2016, 07:24:34 PM

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BigT

As part of their on going program to prevent undue and draconian legislation in the UK to restrict the operation of UAV and UASV, the BMFA have proactively introduced 2 new levels of competency certificates. The BPC and FPV extension. The FPV extension is still under review and discussion with the DfT and CAA, but the BPC is underway and aimed squarely at the "flight assisted models". That is models with self leveling and stabilization.  In addition, and again aimed to preempt any changes imposed by the CAA, Dft and UK Gov, the BMFA has imposed a new set of questions as part of the competency certification for all classes in addition to the 6 standard questions.  There will be 5 questions chosen by the examiner at random from a list of 20. A 100% score is required to pass.  The object is to make all candidates aware of their legal obligations when operating a UAV or UASV.  To help prime the education the BMFA have set up an on line quiz for all to try.

http://achievements.bmfa.org/mandatory-questions/mandatory-questions-quiz

It is expected that the LMA and other bodies will offer similar programs.

Here is an example
According to CAP 658 there are 8 'Only fly if' checks for an FPV flight of an aircraft over 3.5kg.


Which 3 of the answers below are NOT true.
The person in charge does not wear the headset or view a screen
The activity is solely for 'sport and recreation' purposes
Only 1 pilot is required.
A clear handover protocol is established
Reliable operation of the Buddy Box is established
The person in charge operates the slave transmitter
A Buddy Box system is employed
The aircraft remains within the natural unaided visual range of the person using the slave transmitter
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FPVSteve

Okay I got 4/5 on my "test":

CAA General Exemption E 4049 – permits FPV flight without a buddy box, but with a competent observer.
How must the competent observer monitor the flight?

Answer Provided: The competent observer must maintain direct visual contact with the model at all times
Correct Answer: The competent observer must maintain direct unaided visual contact with the model at all times

Is that correct? Unaided - does that mean people who wear glasses cannot be observers?

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Gundummy

My eyes glazed over at the mention of the BMFA..

CAA General Exemption E 4049 – permits FPV flight without a buddy box, but with a competent observer.

What is the maximum mass of aircraft that may be flown under this exemption?
Answer Provided: The aircraft must be below 3.5kg including batteries and fuel
Correct Answer: The aircraft must be below 3.5kg including batteries and fuel
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Who Regulates all civil flying activities over the United Kingdom, including model aircraft ?
Answer Provided: The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)
Correct Answer: The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)
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Except during take-off and landing, what are the separation requirements of Article 167 – for small unmanned surveillance aircraft – excluding the person in charge of the aircraft or anyone under their control ?
Answer Provided: The aircraft must not fly within 50 metres of any person
Correct Answer: The aircraft must not fly within 50 metres of any person
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How are the rules and regulations for flying established in law by Parliament (statute) ?
Answer Provided: As a series of Articles contained within in the Air Navigation Order (ANO).
Correct Answer: As a series of Articles contained within in the Air Navigation Order (ANO).
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What does Article 166 of the ANO say about 'aerial work' for small unmanned aircraft ?
Answer Provided: The person in charge of a small unmanned aircraft must not fly the aircraft for the purposes of aerial work except in accordance with a permission granted by the CAA.
Correct Answer: The person in charge of a small unmanned aircraft must not fly the aircraft for the purposes of aerial work except in accordance with a permission granted by the CAA.
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5 out of 5 for me.... but what utter bollox...
FPV - The unusual hobby of flying £££'s miles away from you in the hope you see it again.

Gundummy

BMFA Achievement Scheme ... pah ... i actually despise these people.  Sorry.
FPV - The unusual hobby of flying £££'s miles away from you in the hope you see it again.

FPVSteve

The tests will do nothing except to make sure that people who already fly safely from a safe place can continue to do so.

Yet again a complete miss-kick from the BMFA because noone who is actually causing problems will take the tests.

Brilliant.

Ratty

Quote from: Steve W on April 16, 2016, 07:51:24 PM

Is that correct? Unaided - does that mean people who wear glasses cannot be observers?

I asked this question when all the rules and exemption talks started.

Glasses wearers have corrective eye sight, not aided.

FPVSteve

I'm sure some people just like inventing tests and rules to make themselves appear more important than they are.

I mean - these are little model aircraft. I just don't see the need. They were wrong about the massive doom befalling us 5 years ago with multirotors but still this perpetual push to make it sound more dangerous than it really is - which of course benefits the BMFA because if you don't fly at some safe field (and pay your membership fee) well - are you some kind of devil?


electrotor

Quote from: Gundummy on April 16, 2016, 08:49:43 PM

Who Regulates all civil flying activities over the United Kingdom, including model aircraft ?
Answer Provided: The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)
Correct Answer: The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)


This is not quite correct. EASA regulates the majority of civil flying activities over the United Kingdom with certain tasks delegated to and certain parts of regulation still retained by the UK CAA.
Natibus in luto, caput inter nubila.

big a

Quote from: Steve W on April 17, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
I'm sure some people just like inventing tests and rules to make themselves appear more important than they are.

I mean - these are little model aircraft. I just don't see the need. They were wrong about the massive doom befalling us 5 years ago with multirotors but still this perpetual push to make it sound more dangerous than it really is - which of course benefits the BMFA because if you don't fly at some safe field (and pay your membership fee) well - are you some kind of devil?
Your posts do make me smile. Its like you live in some kind of alternative reality.

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BigT

I cannot agree that the BMFA have got this wrong. Would it have been more acceptable if the quiz, which is designed to help learn the 20 questions that five can be chosen from, was published by the DfT? The actual test is a verbal examination, not multi choice, 1 wrong answer is a fail even if the flying was a pass.
The CAA have also asked for an FPV Extension to the regular certificates for fixed wing, silent flight etc.

There is definitely going to be further regulation, that is a statement made by Robert Goodwill, there is talk about enforcing insurance companies to garner proof of competency before issuing cover, similar to vehicle insurance. This could be in the form of membership of a governing organisation such as the LMA and that would ensure registration of the operator on a data base accessible to the authorities. The membership number would then be displayed on the model, failure to display would null and void the insurance. The organisation would then be required to show that it has a program of education and achievement in place that was fit for purpose. Hence the changes the the competency certification.


This is just one of the examples promulgated by the DfT and CAA.
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BigT

Quote from: Steve W on April 17, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
I'm sure some people just like inventing tests and rules to make themselves appear more important than they are.

I mean - these are little model aircraft. I just don't see the need. They were wrong about the massive doom befalling us 5 years ago with multirotors but still this perpetual push to make it sound more dangerous than it really is - which of course benefits the BMFA because if you don't fly at some safe field (and pay your membership fee) well - are you some kind of devil?

Get your facts straight please.
You can be a Country Member of the BMFA, you do not need to "belong" to any club or fly at a club site. As far as they are concerned you are free to roam but stay legal.

The BMFA have never predicted doom regarding multi rotors, in fact the general consensus from within the BMFA is that rtf models of all kinds are a good thing that will increase the take up of the hobby.

The BMFA insurance covers  FPV providing legal equipment is used. They cannot defend the use of equipment that should not be used. Much the same as a modified motor car or an unroadworthy vehicle is not insured.
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BigT

Quote from: Steve W on April 16, 2016, 07:51:24 PM
Okay I got 4/5 on my "test":

CAA General Exemption E 4049 – permits FPV flight without a buddy box, but with a competent observer.
How must the competent observer monitor the flight?

Answer Provided: The competent observer must maintain direct visual contact with the model at all times
Correct Answer: The competent observer must maintain direct unaided visual contact with the model at all times

Is that correct? Unaided - does that mean people who wear glasses cannot be observers?

Well 4 out of 5 is a fail so do your homework!
Here's a link to a full list to help you
http://achievements.bmfa.org/mandatory-questions
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BigT

Quote from: Ratty on April 16, 2016, 11:44:31 PM
I asked this question when all the rules and exemption talks started.

Glasses wearers have corrective eye sight, not aided.
Correct, glasses or lenses not binoculars or telescopes
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FPVSteve

Well I certainly consider my glasses when I wear them to be "visual aids". They certainly help me see. So I failed on an apparently incorrect piece of terminology? I guess I'm an unsafe pilot then due to that catastrophic failure of an answer....

Big A - thank you for your helpful, insightful contribution to the thread as usual. Remind me why you're a member on here again? Oh that's right, keeping tabs on people. I think that says more about you than it does me :laugh: Especially when you don't even come back at me with an explanation of why I'm wrong - just snarky comments.

BigT you completely ignored my point though. These tests do nothing to combat illegal and dangerous flying. They simply confirm that already safe pilots (members) can pass a test.

QuoteThe actual test is a verbal examination, not multi choice, 1 wrong answer is a fail even if the flying was a pass.

See what I mean?

Quote
There is definitely going to be further regulation, that is a statement made by Robert Goodwill, there is talk about enforcing insurance companies to garner proof of competency before issuing cover, similar to vehicle insurance. This could be in the form of membership of a governing organisation such as the LMA and that would ensure registration of the operator on a data base accessible to the authorities. The membership number would then be displayed on the model, failure to display would null and void the insurance. The organisation would then be required to show that it has a program of education and achievement in place that was fit for purpose. Hence the changes the the competency certification.

So someone who might be a brilliant pilot, operating safely for years, will now be prevented from getting insurance because they cannot pass a new test? Possibly due to giving a wrong answer like I did based on incorrect terminology? How is that helpful?

Now you have one more uninsured pilot who is no longer able to fly at a safe flying site -guess where he's going to go? That's right - $random_flying_location.

How is that safer than what we have now?