There could just be an AXN maiden this afternoon!

[SnoozeDoggyDog]

The use of full throttle will help identify problems caused by any of the moving parts being unbalanced or the motor being loose and thus sending vibrations through the airframe, for example loose connections, unsecured servos or dry joints in the electronics.

There certainly nothing lose or any moving parts ... everything is covered in glue .... The AXN is a throw glider only since last night!

[SnoozeDoggyDog]

Well that didnt last fekin long! Video to follow.....

[Billy_boy_2010]

oh no??!

[electrotor]

There certainly nothing lose or any moving parts ... everything is covered in glue .... The AXN is a throw glider only since last night!

A typical example of a moving part would be a motor and covering everything with glue has a certain inhibiting effect on control linkages.
A glider you say? Certainly not apparent from your earlier postings.

[electrotor]

Well that didnt last fekin long! Video to follow.....

Welcome to the "SHort fIrst flighT" club. The list of members is long and distinguished.

Now begins the post mortem.

[FPVSteve]

Oh dear.

[SnoozeDoggyDog]

https://youtu.be/7vvC3Zj05gI

What happend, easy. I forgot to order a flight stabilizer! To be fair is was a bit windy and I was completely in a false sense of security. I expected it to level out more than I expected when I let the right stick centre. It's like its acro mode compared to a quad. The e15 obviously has a stabiliser but I wasn't prepared for the AXN not to level in some way. Or maybe a combination of wind and being a bit overwhelmed just tipped my me over the edge.

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[Billy_boy_2010]

Is there much damage? it looks OK?

take the camera off so she crashes more lightly next time.

glue with hot glue easy :)

don't get a flight stabiliser. learn properly. maybe practice on the trainer a bit more first and when you get the axn out again stay a couple of mistakes high and stay close so you don't lose orientation!

Good job it wasn't  £200 of loaded skywalker ;)

[FPVSteve]

Okay not the end of the world, a bit of glue if she's damaged (doesn't look like it) and she'll be reet - it's a right of passage anyway :)

First mistake was you didn't get any altitude, so any mistakes = into the dirt immediately. Also it makes it difficult to see what the plane is doing, by the time it went in you mustn't have had much of a view of the plane (they get small quickly!).
Second, it sounded windy which is going to make things more difficult especially with a light model such as the AXN so wit for a calmer day?

Did you launch INTO the wind as opposed to WITH it? If not you'll have problems.

It sounded like your fingers got a bit confused with the throttle ... my advice would be to:

Set say, 75% throttle and leave it there then just concentrate on the "control" aspect of things.
Get some altitude (gently so you don't stall the plane)
Just try to let the plane do its thing with you steering it along the way - what I mean by that is don't worry about every little gust of wind, just watch how the plane reacts and correct for it once she's up there.
Try to do circuits one way first... then do it another way ... then try a figure of 8.

On the plus side, the plane looked like it was balanced well so your CoG was okay :)

Like I say - glue her up, get some altitude next time and just use gentle movements on the stick. Maybe dial your throws back a little bit so instead of 100% rate you have 50%.

It's about this point where most will either stick with the hobby or think "sod it" :)

[FPVSteve]

And! If I'm not mistaken you actually landed before you crashed so that counts as a flight :D

[English Turbines]

The AXN has Ailerons, but they are pretty useless due to the wing section...I fly Mode 1, so sometimes I just set the throttle to cruise and fly around using the left stick only ie Rudder and elevator...The Rudder by comparison is very sensitive, the smallest movement and the plane reacts immediately.
  It looked like it didnt want to climb out without some addition of elevator...thats normal, like I said, the thrustline pushes it towards the ground until speed builds....
  Stay with it...its an easy model to fly really......You dont need a stabiliser.

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[electrotor]

Trees + wind = turbulence. That was not a good place or time for a maiden flight. I recently flew at a tight tree lined site with my Twinstar which can cope with damn near anything and it is a model which I have flown for years. However I found that the turbulence was chucking it all over the place and it was a fight to bring it under some semblance of control.
I would also echo English Turbines regarding the ailerons. I mix ailerons and rudder for my AXN.

[FPVSteve]

+1 on that, I had 50% rudder mixed to my ailerons and it transformed the plane. Forgot about that!

[SnoozeDoggyDog]

Sorry guys, short reply for the time being. I've Not shut off from work since being home after the "maiden". It's great you're all chipping in. There's a real sense on community here. Thanks.

Take off was into the wind, she was balanced peachy. Very easy to get in the air with very little throttle. I agree I needed more altitude but I figured the more I go up the worst the wind, but yeh, I get the whole altitude gives you breathing space but not in the conditions and lack of experience I was dealing with. No damage that needs glueing. The front is just a  little bit less of a snug fit for the 2900 3s, nothing velcro won't fix. At least I blazed a trail ... a 2900 3s does fit and balances sweet, well it did for 1 flight ;)

Most of the flight was into the wind until I used the ailerons to turn left, I think at that point the wind presented  under the belly and that's where it went wrong

The newly ploughed and tilled field helped with the "landing" no end.

Great tip of just setting the throttle and using right stick to fly. I. No more flying in winds anymore for a good while. I'll be back out when conditions are right for sure.

Billy: Yep, for sure it's not a fully packed SW. Best advice I've had.

I'll add more tomorrow. I need to switch my brain off for a while.  I'm apprehensive for the next flight and I'll turn down the rates.

I really appreciate all of your comments.

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[English Turbines]

Sorry guys, short reply for the time being. I've Not shut off from work since being home after the "maiden". It's great you're all chipping in. There's a real sense on community here. Thanks.

Take off was into the wind, she was balanced peachy. Very easy to get in the air with very little throttle. I agree I needed more altitude but I figured the more I go up the worst the wind, but yeh, I get the whole altitude gives you breathing space but not in the conditions and lack of experience I was dealing with. No damage that needs glueing. The front is just a  little bit less of a snug fit for the 2900 3s, nothing velcro won't fix. At least I blazed a trail ... a 2900 3s does fit and balances sweet, well it did for 1 flight ;)

Most of the flight was into the wind until I used the ailerons to turn left, I think at that point the wind presented  under the belly and that's where it went wrong

The newly ploughed and tilled field helped with the "landing" no end.

Great tip of just setting the throttle and using right stick to fly. I. No more flying in winds anymore for a good while. I'll be back out when conditions are right for sure.

Billy: Yep, for sure it's not a fully packed SW. Best advice I've had.

I'll add more tomorrow. I need to switch my brain off for a while.  I'm apprehensive for the next flight and I'll turn down the rates.

I really appreciate all of your comments.

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The AXN like all small light models is affected by turbulence.....Its always worse lower down as the air spills over trees and hedges....Launch and get high quick if its windy...How bad it is depends upon whats upwind of your launch site on the ground.

Sure you will be ok next time out...:)

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