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Laser Drak mini

Started by beesleyboy, February 13, 2017, 11:51:23 PM

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beesleyboy

The receiver turned up today, so tonight I got it all running, i'm well pleased with the power, it lifts vertically, so as long as it fly's, it should go like a rocket.
i need to fined somewhere with long grass tomorrow, for its maiden flight, I haven't got a clue where the CG is.





FPV, Inspire 1, Mavic Pro, DIY Quad, Mini Quad, Big SW, Zephyr 2, Mini SW.
LOS not enough room. ;-)

FPVSteve

Oo looking forward to this G, make sure to record a video

Badlands

Looks like the same power plant as the Wii Wing?

Superb job G - cant believe how quick you have knocked this up - GL with the maiden - cant wait to hear the outcome.
It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense...

beesleyboy

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Well, you win some and you lose some, strange behavior, first of it seemed front heavy, so I moved the battery back slightly and it tumbles backwards side ways and whatever way it wants to, like a leaf in the wined. not to sure witch way to go, seems like a dart without the flights, not sure weather the motor needs pitching, or I need more elevation.
I have a short video, that I need to put up, but I will need to make some changes, if this little plane is going to work.
G


https://youtu.be/nQFihZ8I8Q8
FPV, Inspire 1, Mavic Pro, DIY Quad, Mini Quad, Big SW, Zephyr 2, Mini SW.
LOS not enough room. ;-)

FPVSteve

CoG on the original one is about 1.25 -> 1.5" in FRONT of the FRONT spar... not sure where that'd be on your scaled up version.

Badlands

Argh Damn G! - it did look like a CoG problem but what do I know.

Hope you will stick with it bud.
It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense...

beesleyboy

I was thinking it was CG, but when I move the battery from front to back in small movements, it still misbehaves.
perhaps there's a flying guru out there, that likes a challenge, I could send them a kit, see what thay can do, i'm a model maker, not a airo dynamics expert. Lol
I will have a look agen soon.
lots of work on at the same time, getting an art instillation ready to go to Milan.
FPV, Inspire 1, Mavic Pro, DIY Quad, Mini Quad, Big SW, Zephyr 2, Mini SW.
LOS not enough room. ;-)

Badlands

I would love to have a play G - ill pay for the kit regardless whether it fly's or not - gimmie your PP addrss bud.

:-)
It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense...

Spikeons

This looks pretty awesome if the 600mm one comes out I'm definitely interested.

Jack

Dillwhacker

Quote from: beesleyboy on February 18, 2017, 01:15:37 PM
strange behavior,
Eeek, that's a twitchy little beggar..
Well I'm no expert but apart from the obvious rearward COG, I'm thinking..
Is it just stalled and needs to get up more airspeed?
What is the wing section and wing loading? - is it reasonable for such a small model? If the section is thin and flat it will have to get shifting  before it becomes stable & responds nicely.
I don't know how forward swept wings work really - does the real DRAK have a very thick section? or reflex? Or tip washout ?
Finally - how stiff is your wing? If it's flexing in flight, then the responses will be - well - interesting..
:)
Good luck with it, love it and hope to see more  ;)


beesleyboy

Quote from: Dillwhacker on February 18, 2017, 11:58:53 PM
Eeek, that's a twitchy little beggar..
Well I'm no expert but apart from the obvious rearward COG, I'm thinking..
Is it just stalled and needs to get up more airspeed?
What is the wing section and wing loading? - is it reasonable for such a small model? If the section is thin and flat it will have to get shifting  before it becomes stable & responds nicely.
I don't know how forward swept wings work really - does the real DRAK have a very thick section? or reflex? Or tip washout ?
Finally - how stiff is your wing? If it's flexing in flight, then the responses will be - well - interesting..
:)
Good luck with it, love it and hope to see more  ;)


Hi
lot to answer there, The plain is 45g with battery fitted, the wings are stiff with carbon running through them, it has a shaped air foil wing and I haven't got a clue what the big Drak has.
FPV, Inspire 1, Mavic Pro, DIY Quad, Mini Quad, Big SW, Zephyr 2, Mini SW.
LOS not enough room. ;-)

beesleyboy

Quote from: Badlands on February 18, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
I would love to have a play G - ill pay for the kit regardless whether it fly's or not - gimmie your PP addrss bud.

:-)

Mate, I will cut you one for nothing, if you are willing to give it a go,
just pay for the post, I think I have your address in my messages, I will let you know when I have one cut out ready to send.
;) G
FPV, Inspire 1, Mavic Pro, DIY Quad, Mini Quad, Big SW, Zephyr 2, Mini SW.
LOS not enough room. ;-)

Badlands

Quote from: beesleyboy on February 19, 2017, 10:10:48 PM
Mate, I will cut you one for nothing, if you are willing to give it a go,
just pay for the post, I think I have your address in my messages, I will let you know when I have one cut out ready to send.
;) G

G - YES please - ill pay shipping np - thx bud!
It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense...

Schalonsus

Quote from: beesleyboy on February 18, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
I was thinking it was CG, but when I move the battery from front to back in small movements, it still misbehaves.
Try moving the battery forward: Nose heavy flies bad, tail heavy flies just once.

beesleyboy

Quote from: Schalonsus on February 20, 2017, 04:30:37 PM
Try moving the battery forward: Nose heavy flies bad, tail heavy flies just once.

thanks for the advice bud, yes I tried that, I thoght the exact same thing, but I think theirs more to it than that.
I need to get back to it soon.
G
FPV, Inspire 1, Mavic Pro, DIY Quad, Mini Quad, Big SW, Zephyr 2, Mini SW.
LOS not enough room. ;-)