Goggles for me are not the road i want to take in fpv! i may be wrong but i feel they could be a pain getting them on and off, stopping them slipping off ya head, looking like the guy off star trek etc etc.... so im going to TRY to put a screen in my van for now and wondered if anyone knows of a good cheap one? :+
I fly off an old 17" LCD tv, it works really well now that I've got it setup in the back of my car and block all the reflections I can.
I was given mine and am new to FPV myself so cant recommend anything but one thing you have to look out for with screen is how sensitive they are to static, some with blue screen at the first sign of static... not good for FPV!
I fly using modified ski-mask goggs.
(http://s4.postimage.org/2t73vixno/goggs.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2t73vixno/)
With onboard audio it gives me a nice immersive experience.
Flying via a screen is a cheaper solution & can be just as exciting.
Hi i have to agree with martin (badlands) at the end of last year i had a left cornea transplant on my left eye my concerns over what it will be like were reasured when i donned the goggs true immersion and with audio a reall feel .. but thats my view but evryones different horses for courses on this .. hope that helps
Interesting you should mention the corneal transplant mark, because I am due to have something similar (deep lamellar keratoplasty) soon. I do not have binocular vision so 3D TVs don't work for me and one screen in the goggles is effectively wasted, although it wouldn't be stereo vision anyway as there is only one camera.
Hope you don't mind if I PM you about the transplant as I don't know anyone else who has experienced it.
Eric
I fly with both, but goggles are far more immersive, you feel more in the plane. The screen is better for setting up and letting others watch.
Yes no contest for me the screen comes second to goggles. Screens are good, but subject to glare wrecking the picture and none immersive. Its easy to get distracted with everything around which for me spoils the experiance a bit :)
I'm an outcast as I prefer FPV with a screen... altho I've only had a quick blast on some gogs they made me feel closed off, vulnerable and sick. I didnt feel like I was in the plane as it was like tunnel vision, still felt remote.... all a bit weird really :)
another thing i notice with the transiition from dvd player to goggles is i keep looking down to check my transmitter :)
Another point is head tracking, its pretty useless with a screen, if you look to your left or right it doesnt matter where the cameras pointing because you not looking at the screen anyway lol :)
Thanks guys for all the different views! I can see both +s and -s with both really! i think i will start with a cheap screen and progress to goggles as i suppose a lot of fpvers do! :-\ so what would be a good investment for goggles? i hear some bad things about fat sharks ie build quality and some say for the money there not the best picture! Cheap option are the hobbyking ones but haven't seen a review on them! and also what about putting on and taking off goggles when your plane is in the air! i supose you would have to take your eyes off your plane for a few seconds? (?)
I just either take off with them on or have them sat down my nose a bit, i look over the top of them. VR1400`s i use are greart, apart from a not perfect sun shade they are pretty good
if you have a fy21ap you can take off and ever use auto balance to make sure it doesn't do anything unexpected
return to launch to fly round your head,and auto balance to circle anywhere
You could have a look at these from Foxtech: goggles, receiver and headtracker:
http://www.foxtechfpv.com/allinone-fpv-goggles-in-new-box-save-shipping-p-229.html (http://www.foxtechfpv.com/allinone-fpv-goggles-in-new-box-save-shipping-p-229.html)
with a good review:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1343478 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1343478)
Screen for me, i like to have people watching me.
Plus id only wear goggles i felt safe not seeing whats going on around me.
I just couldn't do FPV without my sharks
Love the feeling of Immersion and the feeling of actually being on the plane
I do however feel for people who cant wear them, shame really, but a screen is a great way as well to get into the hobby, but just not for me
Simon
Well guys i have took the plunge and ordered some very cheap goggles from hk! they are the turnigy £60 including shiping and customs etc! i will see how they go and if i prefer fpv with goggles then i will invest in some with all the bells and whistles and then the cheapos can be used for friends to use! prob wont be able to review them for a while as its known that hk aren,t the fast shipping company! :flying:
1 month 1 week 3 days for me!!
:wtf: Bloody eck!!!! Well i will try to look on the positive! maybe the nights will have drawn out and the weather will get better by the time i get them.... :thumbsup:
it was over the Christmas perdiod ;)
Quote from: rcplanestupid on January 16, 2011, 07:38:30 PM
Well guys i have took the plunge and ordered some very cheap goggles from hk! they are the turnigy £60 including shiping and customs etc!
I think these have very low resolution (320x240) and I fear they may put you off from using goggles. I have tried a few different goggles:
1. Headplay http://www.headplay.com/ (http://www.headplay.com/)
Pros: Offer by far the best quality image from all googles I tried. The whole screen is very clear and OSD text clearly visible even at the low corners.
Cons: The position of the googles compared to eyes is a little bit critical. Two adjustments provided for each eye which you can set and forget but you have to do it all over again if someone else uses the googles. The googles come with a
huge control box called "The Liberator", a name that I can only account to sarcasm.
2. VR1400 http://www.firstpersonview.co.uk/video-goggles/vr1400-vr-headset-640x480 (http://www.firstpersonview.co.uk/video-goggles/vr1400-vr-headset-640x480)
Pros: Reasonably good image. The OSD text is reasonably easy to read, perhaps with a little guessing at the two low corners. The control box is very small and uses standard Nokia style batteries. There is no need (and no controls) to adjust the optics, it worked fine for everyone of the 3-4 people that tried mine.
Cons: There is a bit of shading in the image as if the red, green and blue do not overlap correctly.
3. Fat Shark RCV922 http://www.gowiththeshark.com/ (http://www.gowiththeshark.com/)
Pros: Built in receiver option which could be very handy for close range FPV.
Cons: They don't seem to fit comfortably on my face and on any of the other people that tried them. They seem ok for the first 2-3 minutes but become tiring after a while. When the strap is tight too much pressure is applied to my eye sockets, when the trap is loosened the goggles tilt down and the image is hard to see. Positioning of the googles is critical to see the image correctly. The image and build quality is not as good as the VR1400. The OSD text is very blurred at the corners and near impossible to read.
I like the Headplay image quality the most but "The Liberator" has put me off and I will probably be using the VR1400. I will try the Headplay in flight and I may review my decision then. If the big box does no bother you the Headplay is the one to go. You need to download the FPV firmware and update the goggles so you don't get a blue screen when the video has interference.
-Angelos
I am for goggles. I have tried a 7" flat screen TV but in bright light there are too many reflections. I suppose I could build a 'box' around it as others have done.
My first introduction into FPV with my mates system were goggles. After this flight all I could say was "WOW", and had to get involved.
My goggles at present are EVG920. I have just ordered the HK fatsharks, so I might sell the EVG920 or keep them as backups or for other person use.
Quote from: rcplanestupid on January 15, 2011, 02:19:43 AM
Goggles for me are not the road i want to take in fpv! i may be wrong but i feel they could be a pain getting them on and off, stopping them slipping off ya head, looking like the guy off star trek etc etc.... so im going to TRY to put a screen in my van for now and wondered if anyone knows of a good cheap one? :+
ok ok ive gone for the goggles and a screen! a few pics! set up list; 14dBi directional high-gain 2.4ghz patch antenna.
Sony Camera Airborne Video System 100mW
Fiberglass Pan-Tilt Camera Flycam Mount
Turnigy video goggles
Parkzone Radian Pro
Futaba 6exa tx
(http://s4.postimage.org/2qm19wodg/fpvuk0.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2qm19wodg/)
Used an old diving mask for goggles.
(http://s3.postimage.org/2ej15v9xg/fpvuk1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2ej15v9xg/)
(http://s4.postimage.org/2qmwp49r8/fpvuk2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2qmwp49r8/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/2ejb33cw4/fpvuk3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2ejb33cw4/)
(http://s4.postimage.org/2qni73s6c/fpvuk4.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2qni73s6c/)
(http://s2.postimage.org/1lvva7ffo/fpvuk5.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1lvva7ffo/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/nbfbqtvo/fpvuk6.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nbfbqtvo/)
As I have already said in an earlier post, I prefer goggles.
I got my Fatsharks from HK yesterday, 8 days from ordering. I bought the middle of the range without wifi. I have hooked them up to my system and they seem Ok. But have not flown them yet. I like the idea of brightness and contrast adjustment, and also the adjustment for the eye pieces. Also when wearing there is no external light leak as they fit great.
Note: There is a 2 year warranty on them.
Quote from: rcplanestupid on February 03, 2011, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: rcplanestupid on January 15, 2011, 02:19:43 AM
Goggles for me are not the road i want to take in fpv! i may be wrong but i feel they could be a pain getting them on and off, stopping them slipping off ya head, looking like the guy off star trek etc etc.... so im going to TRY to put a screen in my van for now and wondered if anyone knows of a good cheap one? :+
ok ok ive gone for the goggles and a screen! a few pics! set up list; 14dBi directional high-gain 2.4ghz patch antenna.
Sony Camera Airborne Video System 100mW
Fiberglass Pan-Tilt Camera Flycam Mount
Turnigy video goggles
Parkzone Radian Pro
Futaba 6exa tx
How are the Turnigy goggles? everyone I've seen report on them have been quite happy with them even with the low res screens.
I'm tempted as I simply cant do 200 nickers on a pair of gogs.
I'd like some gogs so that I can be more mobile, I'm quite happy flying through my 17" screen rigged in the back of my car (no reflection) but it does mean I have to be with the car so no flying off remote beaches or the like :(
Ok so there not going to give you the best image, but i think there is enough image quality to make out lots of detail and as long as you use a decent camera with fast auto brightness i think these are a winner! :thumbsup: For me they are a bit light, when you put them on they will keep slipping off your nose so will need to be converted to ski or diving mask to block light and stay on! They come with earphones and a nice case! And there really really cheap! :coolsunnies:
sounds cool but did I read on RCG that they black out if you hit static?
Ive just ordered the 5.8ghz fatshark set from hobby king, also in the process of building a quad with a kit built controler :D
Quote from: Pasty on February 04, 2011, 07:06:28 PM
sounds cool but did I read on RCG that they black out if you hit static?
Ive tested them on the ground and had no black out with static! :shrug: i will test them in the air as soon as the weather gets better and let you know what happens! :retard:
please do lets us know.. if theres no black out I'll prolly order up a pair to tide me over until my lad leaving home.... in 17years :'(
Quote from: rcplanestupid on February 04, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
Quote from: Pasty on February 04, 2011, 07:06:28 PM
sounds cool but did I read on RCG that they black out if you hit static?
Ive tested them on the ground and had no black out with static! :shrug: i will test them in the air as soon as the weather gets better and let you know what happens! :retard:
unfortunally they Do black out if there is a bad signal! :'(