2 videos I have seen over the last few days ( One from a mod) show people being startled( and actually cowering) by FPV model flying over. Sorry...I dont see frightening innocent passers by as "fun" and I dont think it is good PR.
regards
Andy
Mine was unintentional and not done for fun. It wasn't dive bombing either they just couldn't hear the motors for the high wind.
I don't think any of your posts lately have been fun, useful or good PR for the forum either but you don't see me start a bitching thread about it.
Once I frightened my dog by farting a little too loudly while it slept on the sofa next to me. I expect a visit from the RSPCA forthwith.
I forgot all about it after I saw it but I did also wonder why Coyote didn't divert his course into another part of the otherwise empty beach when he could see the people from hundreds of meters away, it looked for all the world like he aimed to fly close to them. I mean FFS why would you not just keep a bit of distance especially where it would be trivially easy to do so? No idea what other example he's seen and I think he was daft in the Z3 thread but skyscraper is dead right here IMO, it's not the sort of flying that will endear the hobby to anyone really.
If you forgot all about it adfter you watched it then it couldn't have bothered you initially.
Yes I purposely flew over to them, but with no intention of dive bombing or scaring them, as you can see seconds later I fly at the same height further up over a guy walking a dog who gives absolutely no attention to the plane at all, so it couldn't have been that low.
Fear not, I will edit any other possible hints orf controversy from any following videos.
I think there's a world of difference between "divebombing" someone for fun (that's bad mm'kay) and happening to fly over someone. The only issue here was that the walkers didn't hear the motors until it was on them, so sounded like something had just appeared - so the (ineffectual) duck reflex , otherwise they'd have probably turned sometime before and waved or something
If you're flying pretty low anyway and decide to fly right over someone then there's not a "world of difference" at all. Anyway I've said enough and shall defy the :censored: clique no more.
Lol, this thread belongs over on rcgroups.
How many people were actually on the beach? If I remember rightly it wasn't what I would call jam packed. Now I know that members of this forum would not fly low level over a beach full of people in the middle of summer.
Flying over a beach where there's max ten people at a height of 20 meters is in my opinion acceptable.
So, what seems to be the problem?
Quote from: Lola on March 01, 2016, 11:50:17 AM
So, what seems to be the problem?
Aiming for the people rather than away from them. Nothing to do with the choice of location.
I just thought you've got a massive empty beach so why aim for the people rather than just nudge it to the right and give them a wide berth. If others think it's fine to do that then fair dos but I just don't get it.
Well... my observation was that he wasn't aiming for them, he was flying along the beach and they just happened to be on there. Let's get a bit of perspective here.
Was there a danger of them being hit? No, he was flying at least rooftop height.
Is the MTD a jarring, sudden noise? No, it uses large props spinning relatively slowly compared to say, a funjet / bixler etc.
You know what probably happened? They probably had a good laugh and a giggle like girls do while having fun walking along a beach - like most normal people do - then got one with their lives without giving it a second thought. Unlike us, who are analysing a non-event on a forum.
Is this the FPVHub equivalent of a Scooby Doo ending, were we finally get to unmask the Phantom Disliker? :laugh:
If the people being overflown are aware of you flying, and happy about it, I've got no problem with it. If they aren't aware, then the CAA exemption for FPV flying says no closer than 50 metres (30 m if on a landing approach/take off):
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/1108.pdf (http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/1108.pdf)
Black and white really :)
Andy
Yes,
In physics though, gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature of spacetime which propagate as waves, travelling outward from the source. It was predicted in 1916 by Albert Einstein on the basis of his theory of general relativity, gravitational waves transport energy as gravitational radiation.
But....
Somone post the video up, i have no idea what your all talking about :P
Quote from: Steve W on March 01, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
Well... my observation was that he wasn't aiming for them, he was flying along the beach and they just happened to be on there. Let's get a bit of perspective here.
Was there a danger of them being hit? No, he was flying at least rooftop height.
Is the MTD a jarring, sudden noise? No, it uses large props spinning relatively slowly compared to say, a funjet / bixler etc.
You know what probably happened? They probably had a good laugh and a giggle like girls do while having fun walking along a beach - like most normal people do - then got one with their lives without giving it a second thought. Unlike us, who are analysing a non-event on a forum.
Is this the FPVHub equivalent of a Scooby Doo ending, were we finally get to unmask the Phantom Disliker? :laugh:
That might be your observation but in his last post he said he aimed for them. As for perspective how about a bit of perspective on what's actually been said. Nobody ever mentioned that they might be hit only that avoiding scaring people is probably a good thing.
And no, if I have a problem I would not express it by pressing a button on YouTube or PMing people like a little girl.
Quote from: Loopdreams on March 01, 2016, 01:04:35 PM
That might be your observation but in his last post he said he aimed for them. As for perspective how about a bit of perspective on what's actually been said. Nobody ever mentioned that they might be hit only that avoiding scaring people is probably a good thing.
And no, if I have a problem I would not express it by pressing a button on YouTube or PMing people like a little girl.
So we can put this down to a bad choice of words?
When I´m flying I might "AIM" for a structure, does not mean to say I´m going to dive bomb it and hit it does it?
I think the title of this thread is spot-on : "Personally not too keen on seeing videos where people get dive bombed"
However it is abundantly clear that Coyote did NOT dive bomb those two girls on the beach. So what's all this crap about?
Quote from: Coyote on March 01, 2016, 10:24:08 AM
Mine was unintentional and not done for fun. It wasn't dive bombing either they just couldn't hear the motors for the high wind.
I don't think any of your posts lately have been fun, useful or good PR for the forum either but you don't see me start a bitching thread about it.
I'm just doing what I think is necessary to keep enjoying my hobby. Nothing personal. At least on my side. Some people seem to get it. And those that don't probably never will :laugh:
regards
Andy
Quote from: skyscraper on March 01, 2016, 03:56:38 PM
I'm just doing what I think is necessary to keep enjoying my hobby. Nothing personal. At least on my side. Some people seem to get it. And those that don't probably never will :laugh:
regards
Andy
A brilliant strategy - making a brand new publicly visible thread, bringing more attention to the issue you claim to be wanting to avoid, and causing conflict on the forum.
Why not just PM if you have a problem? Oh wait I get it - http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/definition/con-20025568. (http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/definition/con-20025568.)
My god there is far more to bitch an man about.... grow up people.
Next thing we know you'll be complaining about people flying over busy airports next!
Not seen the video.... not fussed to...but I do know Coyote and that's enough for me to know the OP is on a rant.
Keukpa
regardless of what's "right or wrong", is it really worth opening a thread about it?
just get on with your life.
I don't like miniquad videos, I personally think they're more dangerous and have the potential to cause more damage (to persons or property) than a MTD flying over a near deserted beach... but you don't see me starting a thread about it do you?
wow... speechless!
This thread cracked me up. Ian is the most meticulous builder and pilot I have met/seen, online or otherwise and he goes to great lengths to make sure his kit is running perfectly. Suggesting he was intentionally dive bombing people is just pure rubbish.
I understand that we have rules and regulations and that 50m is the specific distance you must keep away but in my opinion what is shown in the video is the same as doing 75mph on the motorway. Technically illegal but in the grand scheme of things it's really nothing to be worried about.
hehe, it reminded me of the good (bad) old days of this forum, when people kicked up a massive fuss over videos of flying over sheep. Thought those days were gone.
Quote from: dogzilla on March 01, 2016, 07:16:28 PM
This thread cracked me up. Ian is the most meticulous builder and pilot I have met/seen, online or otherwise and he goes to great lengths to make sure his kit is running perfectly.
I nearly cried when I read this
He'll kill me but hey ho
http://youtu.be/a1ccMFI3TsQ (http://youtu.be/a1ccMFI3TsQ)
:laugh:
Bignose you're prone to swearing too if I remember correctly :D
haha, loved that video... reminded me of someone else... skip to 1:15
https://vimeo.com/38276864
Ah here he is:
https://vimeo.com/17191495
:D
I think these need their own thread lol
Quote from: bignose13 on March 01, 2016, 07:43:22 PM
I nearly cried when I read this
He'll kill me but hey ho
Git :)
Quote from: Steve W on March 01, 2016, 08:27:35 PM
Ah here he is:
https://vimeo.com/17191495
:D
I could have sworn I saw two tiny people in the grass just before you dive-bombed them and crashed! And "oh" the language, Timothy!
Quote from: Steve W on March 01, 2016, 08:27:35 PM
Ah here he is:
https://vimeo.com/17191495
:D
Ohh got me, I'm a bit more calmer these days lol
Quote from: keukpa on March 01, 2016, 04:26:21 PM
My god there is far more to bitch an man about.... grow up people.
Next thing we know you'll be complaining about people flying over busy airports next!
Not seen the video.... not fussed to...but I do know Coyote and that's enough for me to know the OP is on a rant.
Keukpa
Coyote seems to have basically admitted he is at fault. But don't let that worry you.. :laugh:
regards
Andy
We have all had post incident tourettes, but hearing others has made wee come out :D
As for the beach flying. you couldnt pick a safer place to fly, loads of escape places and at the end of the day, planes do glide very well without motors. Ian you certainly have my backing for being an excellent pilot and building to a high standard.
Quote from: skyscraper on March 02, 2016, 08:58:21 AM
Coyote seems to have basically admitted he is at fault. But don't let that worry you.. :laugh:
OK, I wont! :D