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Title: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 16, 2012, 08:09:39 PM
The HK order arrived today so I set to work straight away on the router table and made the frames as per RCExplorer 2.5 build with a little addition I spotted on the delrin kit.... the extra nut and bolt that would stop the are folding back if the arm should come loose.
Got the wood chopped, plenty of it  ;)
Notice extra motors and an ESC, just in case!

I think I am going to try the LARGE cable tie as the  landing foot as someone else on here has, in theory its a good idea :D

Onward and upward!
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Badlands on February 16, 2012, 09:03:59 PM
The folding back arms makes this tri very crash resistant.
If you add locking bolts you will loose this feature.

I use locking nuts on the 'hinge bolt' & make them super tight, ive never had an arm fold on me.


gl with the build - bet you cant wait eh?
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 16, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
I wish I could have tomorrow off work  ;D
Yeah I see the point about the arms.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 17, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
Ah ha, I come up with an idea.
Instead of the bolt I could use a semi rigid peg something that will give in an impact and brace if the worst happened and the arm loosened.
Maybe balsa?
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Dizzy on February 17, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
Nygie  i like your idea i may do that mod myself on the bigger tri thanks :D

hard balsa dowl sounds about right  ;)

dizzy
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: phibin on February 17, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
nylon bolts...?
like you used on glow balsa plane wings?
they are meant to shear under stress...
Quote from: Nygie on February 17, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
Maybe balsa?
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 20, 2012, 10:31:54 PM
A little progress with a few pics.

Got the motors on and  leccy stuff rough fit.
(http://s18.postimage.org/4sjqjvgpx/IMG_0536_Medium.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4sjqjvgpx/)

Sits nicely on the cable tie suspension, idea totally stolen off someone else!
(http://s14.postimage.org/6dmk51p31/IMG_0537_Medium.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6dmk51p31/)

Used the packing foam to make a mount for the HK V3 board.
(http://s8.postimage.org/58ruu8n41/IMG_0538_Medium.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/58ruu8n41/)

Little close up on the tail, as per Tri 2.5 instructions.
(http://s7.postimage.org/lc6t51kfr/IMG_0539_Medium.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lc6t51kfr/)

Builds going reasonably well.
Things left to do.....
Get a prop balance and balance the props.
Mount the receiver when the 9X arrives.... if it comes with one. I'll have to check.

Test fly (hop)
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Coyote on February 20, 2012, 11:03:50 PM
Looking god Nygie, she looks quite a size :)
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 20, 2012, 11:10:01 PM
Yeah, the arms are 50cm, some plans said 50 some 48.

Time will tell if the holds up :o
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: BlueFlyer on February 20, 2012, 11:44:39 PM
Quote from: Nygie on February 17, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
Ah ha, I come up with an idea.
Instead of the bolt I could use a semi rigid peg something that will give in an impact and brace if the worst happened and the arm loosened.
Maybe balsa?
Just a thought.
bbq skewer?
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 21, 2012, 08:28:54 AM
Stainless or bamboo :laugh:
Maybe will have to do some strength testing.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: BlueFlyer on February 21, 2012, 01:44:46 PM
thinking a bamboo skewer cut to length, with a blob of hot glue on top/bottom to keep it in during normal operation, but with the ability to "fail" on hard landings
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: dirtyharry on February 21, 2012, 01:56:02 PM
I find the legs stay put on my tri and there's no need for a locking mechanism.

But you could put 2 pins in the front legs and stretch an elastic band between them , will stop any chance of them slipping out of place and still allow them to fold in a crash without having to replace any kind of "fuse" bolt. Would actually be handy for when your transporting it to keep everything together.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 21, 2012, 07:54:45 PM
some good ideas guys. I like the elastic band idea.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: g.collins on February 21, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
I like your cable tie legs, great idea.
;) G
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 21, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
Saw them on Rcgroups.com. Not sure if I saw someone here with them also?
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 25, 2012, 09:01:28 PM
Finally got the YAW reversed and had time to try the first few hops in the small confines of the garage (couldn't wait for daylight)
http://youtu.be/yIGKRVaQia8 (http://youtu.be/yIGKRVaQia8)
The video should be live in 20 minutes - circa 20:20 hrs GMT
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: 6lennn on February 25, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
10 times better than my first go

im pretty sure its poor form not to crash and burn your first go though, lol
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on February 25, 2012, 09:32:52 PM
Technically I did crash, the prop whacked my roll cab  :laugh: No damage tho which = no burn. Crashed and no burn :P
........until the next time  :o
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 03, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
After the trauma with the flight controller, I managed a few minutes in the garden before it started raining!
Trouble with FC was not arming on V2.5.
On 1.6 two motors where lame or one was fast  :o
REflashed 2.5 and it works, ESC's calibrated and has a pretty stable hovver ........EXCEPT
The front right motor seems to be glitching a little???

I have some video, when it's finished processing I'll upload it, you can just about hear the glitching in the motor.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 03, 2012, 09:51:55 PM
And the video will take at least an hour to be live (now 20:51hrs). crappy upload (and HD video :)
http://youtu.be/-v7gG9TXiyo (http://youtu.be/-v7gG9TXiyo)

Listen carefully and you can hear the glitching on the right motor, seems to fly ok tho axcept for the little wobble casued by the glitching.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: FPVSteve on March 03, 2012, 09:53:59 PM
I really like those legs too - stolen!
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: BlueFlyer on March 03, 2012, 09:55:43 PM
yup, legs look nice and bouncy lol
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 03, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
Quote from: Steve W on March 03, 2012, 09:53:59 PM
I really like those legs too - stolen!
Just as I did  :o
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 03, 2012, 11:12:29 PM
With regards the right motor glitching I will check the blades in the morning as I did notice a little nik out of one of the blades.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: FPVSteve on March 03, 2012, 11:36:47 PM
Check your wiring too
Title: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 04, 2012, 12:28:19 AM
Will do , I've got a spare ESC in case that's up the swanny!
Title: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 04, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
Different ESC didn't make a difference, I'll try another reflash, as it never did I before the FC went wonky!
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Dizzy on March 04, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
She is looking pretty stable.  looks a good build too, clever idea using those giant cable ties for landing gear  i bet they take a lot of energy out of the odd hard landing :D

dizzy

Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: FPVSteve on March 04, 2012, 10:53:28 PM
Are your gains set properly? If mine are too sensitive, it wants to fall out of the sky heh
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 04, 2012, 10:56:49 PM
Yeah it is very stable, the gyros are working well.
Took it to new heights today testing the replaced ESC.
Did a few high thrust ascents and it was cool virtually no yaw at all.
Just need to sort this glitching out and i'll get the camera powered up and do a bit of onboard video to see what it looks like.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on March 04, 2012, 11:00:30 PM
the roll and pitch gains are very low. they don't seem to make a massive difference..... I turned the roll to minimum yesterday to see if it was the roll gyro casuing the glitching on the right motor, and it was just as stable, but still had that little bounce in the right leg caused by the glitching.

Reflash tomorrow and see if that works.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on April 08, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
Got all the gear loaded, went out this morning with the intent of FPV'ing her and it was a bit breezy.
So I had a little LOS and it was quiet windy once you got twenty foot or so of the ground.
I WAS TOO SCARED TO TAKE THE PLUNGE TODAY!
Better to select zone 5, extend and escape save the palne for another day!


First oboard video http://youtu.be/r1WFRkcmyW8 (http://youtu.be/r1WFRkcmyW8) live in 15 mins (approx 12:15)
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: CurryKitten on April 08, 2012, 04:43:52 PM
Video was pretty smooth, just a tiny bit of virbation that seemed to be coming from the right of the screen.  Looks nicely balanced.
Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on May 24, 2012, 06:24:01 PM
#Finally got around to maiden FPV last night.
It's quite intense!
Managed to land without crashing kind of.... no broken blades = not crashed :P

My turns are a little indifferent, not really got the hang of that yet. Just stop and yaw lol

My board (HK V3) threw a wobbler, managed to get it on the ground! but I LOS a few take offs and it was just tipping forward quite agressively.
Changed the battery and it was just the same, so I trimmed it out.
Then as the last LOS of the night it started coming back all the time, trimmed it up again and the trim was back to centre! How strange!

Title: Re: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Coyote on May 24, 2012, 06:58:33 PM
Sounds like gyro drift on the board
Title: Finally, off the ground so to speak! Another Tri build!
Post by: Nygie on May 24, 2012, 09:24:35 PM
I thought that but would have expected it to reset when. I changed the battery??