As you all know by now by all the random questions i been bombarding you all with, i am a newbie after all ;).
My Bixler FPV build is under way.
First things first took out the washers, and removed all the sticker, then knocked up a tripod mount for the Vrx.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1538.jpg)
Then i added some CF tube to the fuse sides, as the first crash i had with my other bixler it all crunched up a little, so once bitten and all that. in went the CF tubes.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1532.jpg)
then i added CF tube to the horizontal stabilizer and removed and replaced all the stock horns as they are pants.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1535.jpg)
and inserted a CF tube into the vertical stabilizer.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1536.jpg)
found some spoons to suit and then cut out air ducts on the front sides of the fuse and one on top behind the prop as a vent.
i got clear ones as i intend to colour them when i decide on a design and colours, paint it from the inside gives you a perfect gloss shine even if you brush paint it on, old rc car painting many moons ago ;).
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1531.jpg)
TX was sent to the rear with a little trimming to fit and holes poked in sides at a V angle for antenna tubes, with a little cable management.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1530.jpg)
Next up was remove stock motor and mount, then mod the fuse to take a BL style motor mount and fit the 2212-06 28A 2200kv SP motor and 6x4E APC prop.
"NOTE: check the 2 screws holding the motor to the stock mount as one of mine was loose and the other finger tight"
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1529.jpg)
So far thats it, fatshark doms, fatshark head tracker and fatshark 5.8g Vtx are on a slow boat from china, going to order a 40A plush ESC l8rz no doupt with a faw more goodies thrown in as ya do. hoping to get a G.man pan an tilt special for me bixler oh crap got to order a V camera to most prob the 650.
chow for now and take it easy well unless your racing ;).
Looking good so far Darren :)
Looking good :) Only thought is that have you weakend the tail with the foam removed for the RX?
Miles.
Cheers Ian
thanks and Hi Miles
it will have a 3mm CF rod put right along the bottom and 3mm CF tube in the sides when i get some more, just incase i did, but it was only minimal foam removal to fit.
Gdgd :) And liking the air intakes :)
Nice Darren
Hurry up and finish so we can go out together mate
cheers Simon.
just waiting for parts to drop through me door mukka.
popped out the std servos today and replaced them with Turnigy TG9e, as the HXT900's were forever out of stock, until i bought the TG9e, then they were in stock gggrrr.
trying to source some paint now, think its going to be a trip to hobbyworld or someware like that. acrilic paint i think is safe to use, hope so.
l8rZ
Here's the stuff you need mate
http://robotbirds.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=spray+paint&osCsid=6541f2e1c977e82f19b34157d004f3a6&x=0&y=0 (http://robotbirds.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=spray+paint&osCsid=6541f2e1c977e82f19b34157d004f3a6&x=0&y=0)
Cheers Simon.
got an hour or so spare today so knocked this up,
added a few more CF rods to the Fuse.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1542.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1540.jpg)
Ok Question here.
that little pigtail poking out my pod should i remove that and put a balance lead plug LC Filter on it and power it via the balance plug on my 2200 3S lipos?
PS.
bday pressy arrived early. :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1544.jpg)
If that`s the power for your vtx then yes you could do that
Yes Ian power for Vtx and the simple osd.
cheers.
Not allot going on at the moment, still awaiting parts.
fpv pod now has lc filter on it and balance plug connector.
going to go with orange paint, so here is the start of it :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1545.jpg)
Ah, white as a saint. Look forward to seeing some grass stains on it :)
Looking great mate, well fault out build.
:) G
I know it needs some colour, got some paint today, got a blank canvas to play with:) painted the top half of the nose matt black, to aid the fpv cam. is now drying. no pic yet.
got my pan and tilt and cased gopro mounts from G also so been sorting them out still waiting for servos, cheers mukka
anyways as it is so far.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1556.jpg)
that was fun :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1557.jpg)
all mocked up and taped,
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1558.jpg)
am not going to glue it all up as im sure i will need to change something lol.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1562.jpg)
Interested in this tread as I just order Bixler :)
marcin you made a wise choice, as they are good bang for buck with plenty of room on board,
with a few carbon rods/tubes installed its a nice rigid fame for fpv.
have fun :)
G`s pod looks really nice and strong, all coming together now :)
Looking good bud, the pods not mine Ian, just the P&T unit.
Good job on the pod tho.
:) G
Looking good wish i took my time with my Bixler.
cheers.
my build be allot quicker if postman pat bought a Bugatti :P
Well i could not get orange paint any ware so i went with red, "Plasti-kote Fast Dry Enamel" so i will most probably make new ducts and colour accordingly.
anyway got some paint on the topside last night.
bit of masking work.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1587.jpg)
not to bad a few paint bleeds but all in all happy with it.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1589.jpg)
Very nice, I like that a lot :)
Cool gives me an idea for my jet.
very nice build nicely presented, i fitted a blasa wood skid to the underside of my easystar build it protects your fus from bangs a dents it will help you keep the new look longer too :D
dizzy
Quote from: pcnukem on August 23, 2012, 10:57:17 PM
Cool gives me an idea for my jet.
word of advice they were 1" square, took a long time to-do so wouldn't recommend going smaller. but is a good look for minimal fuss i suppose, little time and effort
Quote from: Dizzy on August 24, 2012, 01:20:04 AM
very nice build nicely presented, i fitted a blasa wood skid to the underside of my easystar build it protects your fus from bangs a dents it will help you keep the new look longer too :D
dizzy
ah yes, where does it stop. i have learned it don't stay shiny for long, build it take pics and then put a few scratches on it only then you will have tidy fun and not afraid to trash it :).
remember a guy use to to go racing with bought a brand new bike to the track just bought it en route took the warning stickers off it track side, took a few pics of it everyone was in ore, walked up to it and kicked it off the paddock stand, with a grin saying NOW its a race bike.
Got some paint on the underside of the bixler today just about as i finished spraying it started to rain so had to gather all the bits and run in the house, few spots but ok. looks black but is a dark blue.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1593.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1594.jpg)
Looks awesome Darren, now go out and FLY it
Beautfull job mate, yup Simon, only one thing left to do with it now :)
Well don mate, looks the dogs, looking forward to some nice vids now, good luck with the flight tests.
:) G
just waiting on the ubec to drop through me door lads, and as usual the weather major thunder and lightning here at the moment, it looks better from a few feet away, is ok though.
todays task pan and tilt :)
If you want me to give you a hand with the maiden mate let me know
We can go up llantrisant
Cheers Simon happy days.
Well that went ok. had todo a little mod to get the gopro live out cable in, just added a little 10x20mm wood chip to the top of the seat brace then removed the original section to allow the cable plug to enter, and take a little of the bottom right of the fpv cam mount to get the angle to insert plug.
P&T sorted.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1597.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1605.jpg)
painted the vents to match
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1609.jpg)
Com'on UBEC gggrrr :)
Sholed of sead mate, because that model has the analog camera, I didn't bother with the live cable mod.
:+ G
no worries mukka i do fully intend to get fpv cam, just a temp mod until i ask many more questions on what one to get lol. be warned peeps :)
hehe ...similar thing born here.
Amazed how nice and clean You glue that POD...my is ugly :D
haha all fun init marcin. will be painting mine matt black once im happy with everything on it.
Got a few bits and bobs, but still no UBEC gggrrr.
found some kind of telescopic fibreglass measuring stick in the street a while back, thought might come in handy one day it did locating holes in stable/barn roof as it goes near enough to point and can poke through and the one above can find it and patch it :). anyways.
so i have used the largest part of it to extend my tripods hight, and if i wanted to go higher all i have todo is insert another section and it goes up another metre or so each time and there are 6 sections :). meanwhile the other 5 sections can be used as a flag pole.
First up i made a base to fit my tripods quick release out of mdf and a slither of ply.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1610.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1611.jpg)
then insert that into the pole clip it in sorted.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1612.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1613.jpg)
the top came with a nice real hard cork/plastc/rubber type bung in it to hold it all in, so all im going todo is order a 1/4 UNC x 1" Socket Capscrew bolt "like the std tripod mount that fits on my gopro tripod mount screw that in and pop it back in the top.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1616.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1617.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1619.jpg)
also made some pod mounts with m4 tee nuts, just forgot to order bolts with above bolt order lol.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1620.jpg)
OK im just waiting on the weather now to maiden it.
all up weight is 1080g with 2200mah battery and gopro.
any idea on flight times?
Sapnin peeps, all went togeather well had a few issues with Tilt on P&T servos changed that over to metal gears so far so good, maiden it the other day LOS got to give it a good chuck to launch, but once up all was good. and my first FPV now in the bag with the trusty Bixler Happy Days :laugh:
my first and maiden FPV.
MY First FPV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqi1NVq-fUI#ws)
second using P&T.
MY Second FPV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTrl0IkcQQ#ws)
Nice videos! What sort of flight times are you getting with the 2200mah battery?
cheers.
i am getting just over 10 minutes and putting back 1300Mah on charge. just running a few packs through it now and then see what's left in the tank should be able to stretch that out a little :)
Fantastic thread, enjoyed following your progress. Like you before this build, I'm now doing the rounds putting together some idea for my own first FPV build. What sort of results are you getting with Range/Signal quality? How much do you think it's cost you? (I'm about to pull the trigger on my Bixler order).
Looking forward to seeing more videos.
J.
Quote from: Big_Red on November 04, 2012, 11:46:58 PM
Fantastic thread, enjoyed following your progress. Like you before this build, I'm now doing the rounds putting together some idea for my own first FPV build. What sort of results are you getting with Range/Signal quality? How much do you think it's cost you? (I'm about to pull the trigger on my Bixler order).
Looking forward to seeing more videos.
J.
Hi J
As for how far i went on the vids i am unsure "edit google earthed it and it said 550m" but i had no issues at all with signal until i put it in a hard bank after i went a wee bit past the Van, i had 1 beep from my TX "turnigy 9x std, with frSky module" and that was it that goes for the Vtx also i had a little fussiness same place but nothing other than that was rock solid.
Thats a good Q: how much hhhmmm, will have a look into it for ya J.
Cost "checks over sholder mrs not looking"
break down so far.
Bixler EPO 1400mm - (ARF) 30.89 1 30.89
TURNIGY Plush 40amp Speed Controller 12.39 1 12.39
2212-06 28A 2200KV SP Brushless Outrunner Motor 8.89 1 8.89
EMM28TS GWS BRUSHLESS MOTOR MOUNTs x2 2.49 1 2.49
APC 6x4E Prop 2.35 1 2.35
Control Horns 16x20mm (10pcs) 0.60 1 0.60
Turnigy TG9e 9g / 1.5kg / 0.10sec Eco Micro Servo 1.23 2 2.46
HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo 1.67 2 3.34
Turnigy 4mm Heat Shrink Tube - BLACK (1mtr) 0.16 1 0.16
TURNIGY BESC Programming Card 4.31 1 4.31
Turnigy Pure-Silicone Wire 16AWG (1mtr) Black 0.80 1 0.80
Turnigy Pure-Silicone Wire 16AWG (1mtr) Red 0.80 1 0.80
PolyMax 3.5mm Gold Connectors 10 PAIRS (20PC) 0.93 1 0.93
Nylon XT60 Connectors Male/Female (5 pairs) GENUINE 1.98 1 1.98
Servo Extension Lead 420mm (5pcs/bag) 1.56 1 1.56
Flat 26AWG servo wire 1mtr (R/B/W) 0.24 1 0.24
TURNIGY 8-15A UBEC for Lipoly 8.87 1 8.87
HK-171 Thread Locker & Sealant Medium Strength (Blue) 2.51 1 2.51
Linkage Stopper M3x2xL11.2mm (10pcs/set) 0.84 1 0.84
CF Rod 3mm bottom fuse and under fuse tail servos 2.55 2 5.10
CF Rod 5mm insert into wing spar 5.59 1 5.59
CF Tubing 3 x 1.5mm horizontal and vertical stabilizers 3.35 2 6.70
Gator Glue 7.00 1 7.00
CA Glue 3.00 1 3.00
Extreme Packing Tape 6.00 1 6.00
3M plastic wing hooks 4.95 1 4.95
Rubber Wing Bands 3.50 1 3.50
128.25
Pan & Tilt 25.00 1 25.00
Metal Gear Set HS81MG "for Tilt servo" 13.49 1 13.49
Hitec HS-81 Micro Servo 2.6kg/16g/0.11sec 8.05 2 16.10
DIY Bixler FPV Camera Mount 2.47 1 2.47
Soft Ferrite Rings 16x7x10 (5pc) 0.67 1 0.67
Capacitors for LC Filter 1.20 1 1.20
Super Simple Mini OSD 4.93 1 4.93
Hook Up Wire Set 0.61 1 0.61
ImmersionRC 5.8Ghz Audio/Video Transmitter - FatShark compatible 43.39 1 43.39
5.8 GHz Bluebeam Whip Antenna Set (RHCP) 40.69 1 40.69
HobbyKing 4-6min Epoxy Glue 0.55 1 0.55
3s Balance plug pigtails 0.80 1 0.80
Sheet of lite ply board 5.50 1 5.50
M3 Tee Nuts 2.00 2 4.00
M3 x 30mm plastic bolts 1.25 2 2.50
5x Mini Female JST connector 12cm long silicon wire 1.25 1 1.25
5x Mini Male JST connector 12cm long silicon wire 1.25 1 1.25
Airwave 5.8GHz A/V Receiver 31.29 1 31.29
Cables/Connectors 5.00 1 5.00
200.69
Turnigy 9X 9Ch Transmitter w/ Module & 8ch Receiver (Mode 2) (v2 Firmware) 33.45 1 33.45
Turnigy 2650mAh 3S 1C LLF Tx Pack (Futaba/JR) 7.93 1 7.93
FrSky DF 2.4Ghz Combo Pack for JR w/ Module & RX 31.27 1 31.27
Turnigy 9X LCD Backlight Kit - Blue (DIY) 3.09 1 3.09
FrSky USB Cable 5.26 1 5.26
TurboThumbs Super Big Futaba Rocker (Blue) 3.07 1 3.07
TURNIGY Transmitter Strap 0.61 1 0.61
84.68
Turnigy Accucel-6 50W 6A Balancer/Charger 24.79 1 24.79
Power Supply Adapter 12V 5A for iMAX B6 B5 LCD MONITORS (280531661708) 6.49 1 6.49
Charging harness 1.67 1 1.67
32.95
Fat Shark Dominator 3rd Generation modular FPV System 185.97 1 185.97
Fatshark Battery for Dominator Goggles 25.05 1 25.05
Fat Shark Dominator Optional Head Tracker Module 42.13 1 42.13
Fat Shark Dominator 5.8ghz Module. 19.22 1 19.22
Fatshark FPV PS2/3.5mm JR HT Connection Cable (1 meter) 1.69 1 1.69
600TVL SONY SUPER HAD CCD D-WDR Color Board Camera with OSD Menu DNR 28.07 1 28.07
SMA male plug to SMA female jack right angle adapter 2.79 2 5.58
30CM JR Servo Extension Lead 5pcs 1.28 1 1.28
15CM JR Servo Extension Lead 5pcs 0.94 1 0.94
FPVUK Membership 15.80 1 15.80
325.73
Flight Case 20.00 1 20.00
Cello C16100F 15.6" LED TV DVD Freeview USB PVR - 12V 109.99 1 109.99
Archos 404 DVR and docking station 210.00 1 210.00
Digital Voltmeter, 12V D.C. Battery Monitor Panel Meter (320701838199) 9.65 1 9.65
Yuasa NP7-12, 12V 7Ah 19.45 1 19.45
12v Power Switch 4.00 1 4.00
MDF 12.00 1 12.00
hinges 2 pack 3.75 1 3.75
Case foam 13.20 1 13.20
Cables/Connectors 5.00 1 5.00
Machine Screws/Self-Tapping W/Shoulder 2.3x12 (bag of 100pc) 0.91 1 0.91
407.95
Paint 3.50 2 7.00
Turnigy 2200mAh 3S 25C Lipo Pack 5.57 5 27.85
On Board Lipoly Low Voltage Alarm (2s~4s) 1.13 1 1.13
masking tape various widths 6.00 1 6.00
glue gun 8.00 1 8.00
GoProHD Camera Cable (ImmersionRC Compatible Audio and Video) 8.14 1 8.14
58.12
1238.37 + some major P+P charges
and more i forgot lol
WOW!!
Thanks for that, I've copied your list to use as reference. How do you feel about that total amount? more then you thought? I guess it's like everything else.. I'm sure you'd have bought that in stages to arrive at where you are now with your setup. Most of it is transferable to future aircraft too huh?
I've ordered a Bixler but it's on back order from the HK UK warehouse.
Whats next for you? plans to improve on any of it?
J.
Total amount is understandable as i started from scratch i had nothing, so had to buy everything, but yes its just a progression over a while and been used now on many more planes, tricopters and still got spares if needed. as for upgrade the bixler is sorted only thing im after is a nice OSD, looking at Cyclops Storm v1.2 with RTL. its just a case of buying the stuff you need now, so you dont need to change it out for something else later on like the ubec get a nice 1 in there first as last and your sorted to upgrade rite up to full FPV with P&T.
That`s one comprehensive list ! Kinda puts it in perspective when its laid out just how much we invest
Yes just went and cast my eyes over what receipts i could find. no doubt their was more that had to be hidden like this thread from the mrs lol
but it does add up
I just joined your Bixler club mate, but got the 2
very nice hope to get out and about with um soon mukka.
Good job Prince. Enjoyed the thread.. Might get my Easystar out the loft. :)
Anyone know how much bigger a Bixler is to an EZ*2?
Nice thread indeed! I'll be using this as reference to building my Bixler 2.
I've currently got the Bixler 1 up and running but I threw it together! Still flys nice!
Looking at your shopping list, WOW! I was in the same boat a few months ago, had nothing, on hobby king alone I've spent about £1k
Still, keeps me off the streets ;)
Keukpa
Cheers lads, yes it all adds up as with any hobby but you got to start somewhere.
just need the damn weather back now :)
Quote from: Pr][nCe on August 05, 2012, 09:45:59 PM
Cheers Simon.
got an hour or so spare today so knocked this up,
added a few more CF rods to the Fuse.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1542.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/PrInCeUKER/RC/Bixler/DSCF1540.jpg)
Did you need to add much weight to the tail to balance the COG with the Gopro onboard?
by moving the Radio Rx and the LC Filter to the rear, my CG was very good with all the fpv gear in the pod, i had to move my battery back about 15mm. Sorted.
you only need a little weight when its that far back on the tail.
What a fantastic thread!
exactly what i need. i am at the beginning of my Bixler 2 FPV build.
just building up my shopping list too. though I dont think i will get as much cool gear as you.
My main issue is strengthening the plane, changing the horns, clieves, carbon fibre etc etc.
Nice to see more Bixlers in the sky :D
Blimey Darren where you been mate ??
Quote from: bignose13 on November 01, 2013, 05:53:53 AM
Blimey Darren where you been mate ??
Waiting for a phone call of you to go play :-*
been working hard mukka, and upgrading my Tricopter to an APM 2.5, and built a wing and a H-Quad, that i cant for the life of me stop rotating/yaw on me, its in a slow plas spin all the time lol.