US Drone Registration Details Announced

[elmattbo]

Is their anything that a reaper and a phantom have in common apart from the name drone?! Why would a guy who flies RC aircraft be so suitable for that job?!


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[wgt40w]

Piloting a military drone is very similar to fpv flying - the only differences are rc planes use 'short' range radio power, where as the military does it all by log range satellite communication.

Whilst not all hobby drone flyers will be experienced in fully immersive goggle fpv flying, I would guess a lot are used to flying with as a minimum, a monitor screen attached to their rc transmitter.

[DerbyshireDrones]

Don't know if this has been talked about yet, it isn't just the police & the FAA that can use the database:

http://www.eteknix.com/faa-details-about-drone-owners-will-be-publicly-avaliable/

[FPVSteve]

This is all kinds of wrong.

It's bad enough government departments having access, but the public being able to find out too? You'd have to be off your rocker to sign it.

[keukpa]

Why are people so conserned about their 'private' details?

I think people over estimate their own personal informations importance.... who cares if someone has a database with my name on it??? Not me....

What worries me more is the fact it's only a matter of time before this hobby is no more...or too expensive for registration and training to make it worth while :/

[electrotor]

Someone, somewhere in a government Defence Dept. has been tasked with gathering this information ........ in an 'innocent' way (now decided by way of drone registration).

With this info the armed forces have exactly the list they need of names to forcibly call into the armed forces as offensive drone pilots (Reapers etc.) whenever a next major international conflict occurs.

This new list will join with all the other existing lists the UK Defence Dept already keeps, regularly updated, of people involved in various civilian occupations that, in time of conflict, could immediately assist a rapid increase in deployment of armed forces, e.g. lorry drivers, transport and other logistical personnel. Engineers of varying types (elec & mech); civil airline pilots, air traffic controllers, radar operators etc., etc.

You are aware that this thread is about US drone registration (and indeed registration of any model aircraft above a certain weight) as a result of a scheme introduced by the FAA? No such thing exists in the UK.
And in pre-emptive response to "what happens in the USA eventually finds its way over here", the UK CAA has had well established regulation of model flying for many years. This regulation has evolved more recently to encompass FPV as I'm sure most of us are aware. In that respect we are way ahead of the FAA knee jerk reaction.

[wgt40w]

The opening part of my comment, "somewhere in a government Defence Dept.", was meant to refer to the USA.

However, the bottom part of my comment clearly refers, as you say, to the UK.

Whilst I agree with your comments re the CAA and "model flying" - that surely refers to pre camera carrying drones / FPV craft.
Much as I agree that the CAA do tend to try and seek comments and opinions from 'informed' sources - e.g. Simon Dale & BMFA, I feel they are now fighting a rearward action against European led directives. The CAA has had a number of countries also adopt its regulations, but the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) is busy trying to assemble a set of regulations that that it will say should supercede the CAA / be adopted by all EU countries (European central government v. local independent governance). In my opinion these European regulations will not be as 'friendly' as the CAA.

I am still of the opinion that all western governments wish to keep updated lists of all people in occupations or hobbies that could be of use in case of a major incidence or war. I know - FOR a fact - that they used to. Any new hobby or occupation that would be of interest will also eventually become a desired database.

[FPVSteve]

Where there's a revenue stream, there's a government department to "manage" it.

[wgt40w]

The Civil Service is always looking for 'new' tasks - helps them justify their jobs and demand more people need setting on.

I used to know a guy in my local County Authority who told me he, together with all the other managers at his level, spent most of their time trying to justify needing more staff - why - because the more staff under him, the greater became his importance / ability to justify a pay grade increase for himself !

Not sure he would still get away with it in these days of constrained budgets though.

[electrotor]

Whilst I agree with your comments re the CAA and "model flying" - that surely refers to pre camera carrying drones / FPV craft.

Well no, CAA CAP658 was revised to include a section specifically on FPV, the wording largely being done by Simon Dale with further input by other interested parties. (Rather annoyingly the BMFA seem to be trying to take more credit than they are really due on this revision.) Also the exemption for FPV is currently on its 3rd version.
In addition the CAA have had CAP722 since 2002 which, although it is intended for people doing aerial work (commercial stuff), was used against a model flyer in a prosecution last year.
Its not quite the case that the CAA adopts EASA regulation - for certain aspects EASA is the regulator due to the UK being a member of the EU. The UK CAA still regulates certain aspects of civil aviation as delegated by EASA, or not yet controlled by EASA. This of course brings us to your later point of increased European regulation including our beloved hobby. It is probably inevitable but has not yet happened. What has happened in the USA is in part because they had NO regulation of model aviation, merely a single sheet of guidelines. For such an aviation conscious country it was quite staggering how far behind they were.

[keukpa]

For such an aviation conscious country it was quite staggering how far behind they were.

As a country that guarantees it's citizens the 'righrs' to have guns.... I'd say the USA is one of the most far behind, backwards countries their is!

[FPVSteve]

[wgt40w]

Hot News

AMA has told its' members to hold off registering - see

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2563997&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Click%20here%20to%20learn%20more.&utm_campaign=Dec21%20RCG

[Gundummy]

That first reply in the thread sums it up for me:

Not sure about this one. I'm not knocking AMA, I just prefer not to belong, and I don't care for flying at club fields. This almost kinda sorta looks like a grab to be the controlling agency. I would hate to be forced to join, which incidentally costs more than five bucks.

[Cockney Boy]

As a country that guarantees it's citizens the 'righrs' to have guns.... I'd say the USA is one of the most far behind, backwards countries their is!

100% true. Been working there on and off for years and it still staggers me.