EASA & drone regulation

Started by electrotor, December 22, 2015, 08:21:39 PM

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FPVSteve

Haha, what a gas you are Gundummy.

Gundummy

FPV - The unusual hobby of flying £££'s miles away from you in the hope you see it again.

BlueFlyer

Quote from: BigT on December 24, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
So the CAA actually asked  this off the record

"The CAA did ask that any video footage on YouTube or similar of naughty things being done with any form of drone or model aircraft be sent to them for investigation, so if you see anything like that, please let us know."

You have been warned

Asked this to who? Who are the potential dirty rats/snitches/squealers/whistle-blowers?

regardless... that's another 40+ videos I've just deleted from my youtube account (most were private anyway, but I'm taking no chances)

Thing is... none of them showed - without reasonable doubt - anything illegal... I just got rid of videos that had my face in them, had other things that could be used to identify me, or any OSD footage that shows possible distances/altitudes deemed as out of LOS.

it's a shame really that it's come to this.


As for the earlier question...
Quote from: Steve W on December 22, 2015, 10:08:23 PM
Theoretical question for the members on here.

If we were put in a position like the FAA are putting US citizens under, i.e. enforced registration... would you register? Or would you try your luck and see how you got on? Or would you just hang up your wings?

I would have to think long and hard, and weigh up the pros and cons... but I have 2 solutions already in mind...

1) Register to stay legal, but I'd have to buy 25mw 5.8 gear and an AAT system such as MFD AAT for use with high gain directional antennas, and drastically reign in my flying style/habits to stay within unaided visual LOS of my buddy... and of course, never fly alone.

Very costly... both financially and personally... it wouldn't be the hobby I love anymore, and I'd be much more restricted to flying only when my buddy is available.

2) Not register, and sell all my FPV gear... which would have been drastically de-valued due to the restrictions

Again, very costly... I added up how much I've spent in hobbyking alone since I've been a registered customer with them.... lets say it's a small fortune.



NOT registering, but still flying as normal is not an option for me, not in my job.

I'm definitely leaning more towards option number 2... I don't think I'd get anywhere as near as much enjoyment out of option 1

Dillwhacker

Quote from: BlueFlyer on December 25, 2015, 07:34:33 PM
another 40+
it's a shame really that it's come to this.
I would have to think long and hard,
it wouldn't be the hobby I love anymore,
Cheers Blue, that is a sad thing to read...seriously, it is a bit depressing.
You have depressed me and ruined my whole Christmas...
I'm going now to bite my own head off...
;D

BlueFlyer

Quote from: Dillwhacker on December 25, 2015, 11:33:56 PM
Cheers Blue, that is a sad thing to read...seriously, it is a bit depressing.
You have depressed me and ruined my whole Christmas...
I'm going now to bite my own head off...
;D

haha, don't do that... drink yourself into a stupor instead :)

Unfortunately, I'm not the only one who feels like this.... fingers crossed the CAA don't take any notice of what the yanks do in their own little world across the pond.

Dillwhacker

#20
Quote from: BlueFlyer on December 25, 2015, 11:45:10 PM
haha, don't do that... drink yourself into a stupor instead :)

Unfortunately, I'm not the only one who feels like this.... fingers crossed the CAA don't take any notice of what the yanks do in their own little world across the pond.
Steaming herd of worthless retards they are,  IMO..
I hope we don't copy them...
Cheers dude, thanks again,
T

FPVSteve

In other news I saw a "drone" in Poundland the other day near the counter. Not a quid, but it was up for £30... looked like a cheap knockoff Phantom.

Wonder how many of those were sold............... :o

Western

#22
Surely the only way to enforce this registration idea in the States is to get the drone registered at the point of sale. As another post said the bad guys aren't going to register anyway. No registration, no sale.
Don't know how that would work buying second-hand though.
I personally wouldn't have a problem with such a scheme over here as I don't fly long distance.
Usually the people who are up in arms about this kind of thing are the ones breaking the law and are worried they'll get caught.
Cheers, Mark
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BlueFlyer

Western, it's not just flying long distance that's breaking the law, many aspects in FPV are technically illegal (although we are all adult enough to understand that there are different extremes of illegality)

BigT

#24
To clear up one point on this. Major difference between the FAA and Irish scheme is It's the pilot that is registered in the US not each individual model. Any RC controlled airborne model must have the reg number on or in it. It's similar to the AMA rules in as they stand now, difference is this is compulsory, free for the first 30 days $5 thereafter. As it's a federal law it will be implemented by the FAA and the FBI. Oh and no model must be capable of speeds in excess of 100 mph. Go figure.

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Quote from: BigT on December 24, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
So the CAA actually asked  this off the record


"The CAA did ask that any video footage on YouTube or similar of naughty things being done with any form of drone or model aircraft be sent to them for investigation, so if you see anything like that, please let us know."

You have been warned

Anyone else think it was a bad move for FPVUK not to be there?

Oh and remember the next time you stick a finger in a prop, send in your MOR to the CAA

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Actually, my mistake, it was On The Record as it appears in the official minutes.


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Western

Quote from: BlueFlyer on December 26, 2015, 10:25:18 AM
Western, it's not just flying long distance that's breaking the law, many aspects in FPV are technically illegal (although we are all adult enough to understand that there are different extremes of illegality)

Just really using that as an example. Vtx power, where we fly etc all come in to it.
So how to get to a deserted island somewhere that isn't a nature preserve bombing range. lol
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DerbyshireDrones

QuoteOh and no model must be capable of speeds in excess of 100 mph. Go figure.

wow, i first read that as model mustn't do in excess of 100mph, but now i have read that again, i don't think they realised how stupid that is,

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Gundummy

#28
Where did that utterly crap rant go?...
FPV - The unusual hobby of flying £££'s miles away from you in the hope you see it again.

FPVSteve