Recently on BBC news..... this is gaining serious media coverage.....and the police have been contacting people....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-35050426 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-35050426)
Another example to be made in the making!
Quote from: Gundummy on December 12, 2015, 06:46:52 PM
Another example to be made in the making!
I believe so....he's flying it from Tritton road roundabout.... basically he's an idiot....and if they found out who he is....they WILL prosecute him! :/
And fair enough.
Choose where you fly carefully. Don't be a dick.
Unfortunately in this game, the guys who are seriously into the hobby seldom do stupid things.... but do stand the most to lose
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Saw this last week... what a nob
he even states in the video "couldn't see drone most of the time"
who did he think he would be impressing by posting this video on the internet?
I know that area well, lived there for some years
It makes me laugh that the BBC have the nerve to publish this, when they are equally as guilty of some dodgy flying.....Your man does need flogging with a stocking filled with his own excrement as he was doing some very stupid flying.
Sorry but all the people on here complaining about this guy - you've never flown out of LoS before in your life have you? Never over a building? Theres no distinction between "a building" and "a city" in the ANO so technically what he's doing is no more illegal than what we do almost every flight. Doesn't matter if you do it out in the sticks, its still illegal in a court of law.
Come on - this guy is one of us, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with his face being plastered all over :censored: BBC News like he's a rapist or something. It's getting ridiculous. Would YOU like it?
your right Steve ... but discretion is the word...
where did you get that silly clip on beard from?
The flight was a stupid idea.
Posting the video on Youtube was even worse.
But neither of these points were as bad as the reporting of the incident:-
I quote,
"The fact that he was flying so high and close to Waddington and Scampton is incredibly irresponsible," added Mr Roberts."
Gosh, it's a wonder the military were able to avoid the drone.
Mr roberts works in Costa Coffee btw :D
he didn't just fly out of LOS and over "a building" he flew 2km over a CITY CENTRE.
technicalities aside.... there's a massive difference between flying over the odd farmhouse/barn and flying over Lincoln city, and you know it.
Quote from: wgt40w on December 12, 2015, 10:28:07 PM
The flight was a stupid idea.
Posting the video on Youtube was even worse.
But neither of these points were as bad as the reporting of the incident:-
I quote,
"The fact that he was flying so high and close to Waddington and Scampton is incredibly irresponsible," added Mr Roberts."
Gosh, it's a wonder the military were able to avoid the drone.
lol, Waddington is over 5km from this flight, and Scampton is over 8km away. This flight was far enough away from both aerodromes under current legislation... shame about the rest of what he was doing.
I do feel like a moron, harking on about legalities... I'm the last person to talk really, but theres doing 80 on a motorway in good conditions with no-one around... then there's doing 100, outside a school, in the rain, without your glasses on, under the influence, without insurance.
BlueFlyer : actually.... the uni and city centre are in Scampton's space... the red arrows fly over there.... south of the uni he'd be out of Scampton. ... but north is in. :/
Yup, just looked again, my mistake. Close though.
Well, just my 2p worth as a noob..
I have a 450 quad with GPS & RTH & Failsafe all working correctly.
I have flown over the odd house in the country and a few people.
But I would not dare to make that flight.
Balance of probabilities - my quad has plummeted twice from failures that were 'not my fault' - one motor failed mid-flight, fractured winding, and one ESC failed mid-flight. No lack of maintenance there - all looked good before takeoff.
A hex or Octal 8 blade would be safer I'm sure.
There's always a single weak point, unless you do a very good FMEA - what if the XT60 from your main LiPo fails - game over - no RTH will help then..
Just thinking out loud..
Yea but as I said, technically (as in if the law is applied) there is no difference between city flying and flying out of LOS in the countryside. Both illegal.
I dunno, i'm tired of this crap - it used to be about flying planes and having fun, now you end up on BBC news for doing what quite a few on here used to do when it was "cool" and noone said a thing. Meh.
The guy is probably sound as a pound and just likes his aircraft, just like any of us...
Fair enough Steve
Quote from: Steve W on December 12, 2015, 11:09:50 PMfor doing what quite a few on here used to do when it was "cool"
I can't remember doing anything as irresponsible this when it was "cool", and I honestly don't remember you doing anything like that either.... maybe you did but at least you were smart enough not to put it on the internet, where things live forever
Yep, I'm with you in principle, just saying that quads plummet at random (bathtub curve) and I'd rather not have a plummet onto a crowded area.
Quote from: Steve W on December 12, 2015, 11:09:50 PM
Yea but as I said, technically (as in if the law is applied) there is no difference between city flying and flying out of LOS in the countryside. Both illegal.
I dunno, i'm tired of this crap - it used to be about flying planes and having fun, now you end up on BBC news for doing what quite a few on here used to do when it was "cool" and noone said a thing. Meh.
The guy is probably sound as a pound and just likes his aircraft, just like any of us...
I think the problem is that - in the old days when "it used to be about flying planes and having fun" - it was the limited number of pilots that were having the fun. Think - which is more fun - driving a car or being a passenger?
It's the addition to flying craft of cameras and electronically assisted flying that's the problem. Now an inexperienced perv becomes a pilot - not to enjoy the flying - rather just as a means to the end of taking videos that can be posted on the internet - and thereby gaining fame or notoriety.
Ban the internet and all our problems will disappear!
:laugh: \0/
Steve, I'm with you in a way...and you know we've done 'illegal' things....as we've both been at the field... but we haven't gone blasting it out on YouTube. ...
The problem is the cathedral is a world iconic monument....and as such you have to be careful....yes he's possibly a cool guy (although that beared says otherwise) but because of him it gives the powers that be more reason for legislation. ..... do 'cool' things but don't post them to the world!
You can't expect to get away with shit like this any more. I don't really have any sympathy for the guy. His mistake was putting his face online The police have to establish who was flying, they can't just trace your IP and nick you, they need to definitively prove you were there on the day and in charge of the aircraft, so putting your ugly mug online at the sticks is basically signing your own arrest warrant.
I don't know if my videos are any better but I'd like to think I try to stay away from built up areas. But for example how many beach videos have I seen where people are flying above public beaches where there are almost always people and children below? yet those videos are liked and never criticized in the same manner as someone who dares fly over a house
Facebook is full of illegal flying. I've seen one guy post that his Talon was up at 2.7 miles high !!!!
Only 2.7 miles? That's a poor height! ;)
I was asked by Ian (coyote ) why I don't frequent here as much , good god .......it's like a bloody witch hunt shame the services don't go to this much trouble to find hard criminals .....disgusting I'm out .
Quote from: mark1975 on December 13, 2015, 12:21:51 AM
.......it's like a bloody witch hunt shame the services don't go to this much trouble to find hard criminals .....disgusting I'm out .
I disagree. It isn't a 'witch hunt', I posted this as I live in Lincoln, and I work near where he flew, so is of interest to me.
The problem is we live on the cusp of two possibilities, either we are going to carry on as normal, or we are going to get legislated to :censored: ....and this kind of 'publicity' doesn't help. Most of us on here have FPV as a hobby, and one we have all put a LOT of money, effort, and time into.... People not 'doing' this per se, but 'advertising' doing this is putting that at risk. As a community we have to be seen to want to promote safe and responsible flying!
Keukpa
I remember falling out with a lot of people on this forum when I was a moderator because I thought that, as it used to be affiliated with FPVUK, all dodgy videos should be banned. But, it turned out people wanted a free for all, so that is what was decided and I asked to be removed because moderation was simply not required. And it became FPVHub because Mr Dale didn't want the association to be affiliated with the "dodgy videos".
Now it's just like people can't make up their mind - which actually gets on my tits.
It seems to me that everyone on here is either legal or a hypocrite when it comes to these threads. It's really that simple. I know that may not be a popular thought, but you can't say "I'm only a little bit illegal".
People need to choose their stance and stick to it IMO! Me, I like the illegal stuff - I won't pretend I fly legally because I don't, and I'm not about to criticise someone in this hobby who flies maybe a little more illegally than me. It could just as easily be me on BBC news and I'd not be comfortable with that at all.
Not for a stupid little flying toy.
... Lincoln... centre of the known universe....true.
Keupa, but really is it necessary to post it here I hear what your saying but come on, it's on the Bbc news, it's on Facebook it's on Twitter , it's on YouTube (was) like Steve quotes with ref to legalllity I Don't fly legally I've flown 10 km with a twinstar (over farmland ) but these threads really become very tedious that's all you have a right to your views , tbh that fact he has his face on the Bbc homepage is enough of a deterrent to not upload anymore videos.i
I'm confused tbh. I'm getting the gist that people think just because our illegal stuff isn't posted on YouTube that it's somehow "okay" but this guy is much worse because he publishes his videos? That makes no sense whatsoever. It's still illegal, and still apparently dangerous, yet we're joining in with the vilification of this guy even though it could (and should by the logic on the thread) be us facing the music.
What is the deal guys?
I think a lot of people are missing the point, firstly this is a 'free for all' forum as Steve says, therefore people are free to post these sorts of things and discuss it.... Isn't that what it's about?
Steve, I'm not 100% legal either, never claimed to be, never pretended to be.... I love the illegal flights, e.g. 2.7 miles high! My point is we shouldn't go 'broadcasting' this or putting it on YouTube cos a) you will get found out and prosecuted and b) it gives the CAA and law makers more reason to ban it all.
Also, so what if it's on Facebook or Twitter, I don't use Facebook or Twitter.
Lincoln certainly IS the centre of the known universe.
And Steve, due to this video, I've been banned from flying (I won't say by who on here, but you know me so can work it out), if someone did something that made you not be able to do your job....wouldn't you be pissed?
Yes it would, but I guess if you were qualified it wouldn't really matter what Mr Adenoids said? Or are you qualified? I can't remember.
All I know is I'm sick of the two-faced crap, the continuous changing of opinions and stuff in this community - it's the reason I left the modified car scene back in the day as well :laugh:
Quote from: Steve W on December 13, 2015, 02:02:55 AM
Yes it would, but I guess if you were qualified it wouldn't really matter what Mr Adenoids said? Or are you qualified? I can't remember.
All I know is I'm sick of the two-faced crap, the continuous changing of opinions and stuff in this community - it's the reason I left the modified car scene back in the day as well :laugh:
No one here is being two-faced, no one (or at least I'm not) saying don't do it....just saying don't be a complete dick about it..... The fact no one I know knows him tells me he's not into FPV like we are as he's not about on any of the groups, people can just 'Buy and fly' they don't care if it gets banned.
WE are the ones with something to lose.... He's not.....
Yes, I am qualified now, but they don't care, my boss said no more 'they' don't want to get associated with this bad press...
So, for some idiot who it appears doesn't give a shit, is already ruining it for others.
I don't care what people do....but take a second, think about it before you start putting it on YouTube.... If you robbed a bank, you wouldn't put the body cam footage on YouTube would you?
That sucks if you're qualified and demonstrably safe, yet still can't fly.
BUT this is why I was pushing for "fully legal videos" on here - it wouldn't have stopped the chat about illegal stuff, but moderation would have stopped the promotion of illegal activity (i.e. videos). That way, we as FPVUK members become "the good guys" and may have had some associative benefits because of it.
Anyway sod it - this is like 4 years ago, but we once had control over where we were heading - now it's down to the Daily Mail. Sad really, since FPVUK was the trailblazer back in the day, could have made a difference.
Times change Steve. And so do opinions. There's nothing two faced about coming to the realisation that I may have to stop participating in a hobby I've spent thousands of pounds on over the years, and adjusting my attitude towards it.
You want honesty? The real reason I'm annoyed at the mere existence if this incident is because it's yet another nail in the coffin, another bit of the mounting pile of evidence that will eventually be used to either ban my hobby completely or to control it so closely that I will have no choice but to stop doing it completely.
I'm not on a high horse of legality regarding his flying either.. I'm simply pointing out that it was a bloody stupid thing to do, regardless of the legalities.
I agree with BlueFlyer on this....what he's just said is exactly it.
I remember the discussion about 4 years ago Steve, when we were deciding about which way FPVHub should go, and I was on the side of 'free and open' but this was before you could go into a shop and buy and fly.
Times and opinions DO change, and if we want to ensure we aren't screwed, have to be more careful now.... I know from first hand knowledge that the CAA are looking at Ireland. We might have to register EVERY 'drone' we own, I have over 20 of the feckers..... I'd never be able to afford that....
The problem is certain organisations are looking for a reason to legislate and quite frankly.....make money from us!
Just my 2 cents, kind of similar to BlueFlyer's;
There is a difference between being illegal, and being illegal and stupid, heck, 99.9% of FPV flight are illegal base on just the frequency and power alone.
For example, doing 80 or 90 MPH on the Motorway is illegal, but id say the majority of cars are doing more that 70, so its illegal, but as long as conditions are ok I would not say it was stupid.
If you did 40 in a 30 MPH zone, you are illegal AND stupid, and would cause a lot more uproar then people on the motorway.
If you want to do 10km over farmland or moors, as long as your not ridiculously high, not following a busy road, and have a decent way of navigating, I think your fine, but don't go skimming the gantries of the M1 or hover over a city centre, you are illegal and an idiot.
While videos appearing on YT and the like end up on the BBC for being just illegal, the '2 face'-ness seen in the community is mostly seen based on what people deem as stupid or not, some people may be ok with 10km over moors and farmland, but see doing 1km over a village stupid and thus will get all uppity and quote legal figures to pack their opinion
Sometimes flying illegally is actually more sensible, a lot of the rules and recommendations for BMFA Clubs have the pilots closer to cars and other people (IE other pilots) then the rules for 'Drones', this means that people flying different kinds of RC could end up spread so far apart they can not communicate in case of an emergency, whether its people telling the drone pilot of other aircraft, or the drone pilot telling others he is having issues with his aircraft so people can keep an eye out and be alert enough to move should the aircraft come their way.
Let's be honest, if your flying at 399 feet and the closest person is 51 meters away, if you have an issue the probability of the aircraft hitting a person has got to be the roughly the same wherever they are stood for quite a large radius around where the issue first occurred. Do I fly if there are kids in the same park I want to fly in? No, Stupid. Do I fly if there is another pilot stood next to me? of course, its a club!
:o wow... this thread grew arms and legs!
No doubt it will get locked shortly.
I wouldn't do it myself- but don't the police have something better to do?!
Keukpa - you say you were on the "free and open" side of things but that's the problem - this situation was ALWAYS on the cards, I'm surprised people didn't see it back then.
It was obvious to me that this situation was coming - and here we are.
(https://i.imgflip.com/voy4b.jpg)
Hahahahhahahaha lolz
Quote from: BlueFlyer on December 13, 2015, 11:19:04 AM
No doubt it will get locked shortly.
Why would you say that ?
I see no personal insults getting thrown about, no offence being made, jut people expression their opinions. So far its an interesting read with views from all sides.
I remember someone on here not only flying over but crashing into Lincoln Cathedral not so long ago.
http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,10402.0.html (http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,10402.0.html)
Simon crashed it, Keukpa went and got it back, SteveW said it was cool :)
Quote from: Coyote on December 13, 2015, 01:07:31 PM
I remember someone on here not only flying over but crashing into Lincoln Cathedral not so long ago.
http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,10402.0.html (http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,10402.0.html)
Simon crashed it, Keukpa went and got it back, SteveW said it was cool :)
3 years ago....how time flies.... No pun! :)
Quote from: Coyote on December 13, 2015, 01:01:29 PM
Why would you say that ?
[...]. So far its an interesting read with views from all sides.
Blimey.. weather must be bad there today! :run:
regards
Andy
It *was* cool. It wasn't legal though was it. Maybe I'm not being clear enough:
There are two scenarios:
One - the forum hosts only legal videos, illegal videos are pulled up and removed
Two - the forum hosts illegal videos, videos are left as they are.
One ... people didn't want this for some reason (maybe because everyone is operating illegally)
Two ... people wanted this, but we get pissing and moaning threads about dangerous people anyway :laugh:
So here we are all operating illegally yet supporting the victimisation of a pilot who does exactly what some of us do. WTF?
I think you've entirely missed the point Steve.
I posted this just cos I thought it was an interesting discussion point. I never said he shouldn't be flying where he was.
The 'point' is of course most of us use higher power VTX, frequencies we shouldn't, etc. but we don't go getting the hobby a bad rep by getting it on BBC news because we were stupid enough to put it on the interwebz.
Keukpa
Well, you guys did post pics of the wing retrieval from the cathedral. Arguably that's the same as posting a video of a dodgy flight - it still makes the hobby look bad if someone is inclined enough to make it a big deal (perhaps because of personal animosity).
All I'm saying is people don't seem to know what they want on here, and we should be careful of helping to victimise some guy who's done nothing that some of us don't do ourselves...
Saying someone is stupid for doing something stupid isn't victimisation.
ok we've all done it... this guy is being "victimised" because he's stupid enough to film himself... and stupid enough to end up on the BBC and Police wanted list lol
this is like "Britains dumbest criminals" (or drone flyers!)
just to add ... my misses is watching XFactor recorded from last night - the drone footage from where the 2 non-reflective singers visit Newcastle shows a face down recording flying over the Tyne Bridge while full of traffic amongst other things...
I guess some professionals are idiots to!
Many of the comments so far make a lot of sense and its a great thing that we are in a democracy and a certain amount of free speech is allowed
But here is the thing; in society there are rules a.k.a. Laws. These rules are generally for the common good of the population and are designed provide a safe and healthy environment for the population to exist and to protect the population from danger. Without these laws or statutes in place there would be an anarchic society where the weak suffer and the strong rule. An "I want it so I will take it, I'm alright Jack" society. Civilization is only skin deep: witness the Rwanda genocide.
If I wanted to live in a society like that I would emigrate to Somalia or Syria or any one of a number of "Wild West" environments where there is zero law and order. But I choose to live in a relatively safe and controlled country, albeit over populated, and this means that there has to be laws to protect the weak from the strong or put another way, sensible people from idiots.
Do I agree with all legislation? No of course not!
Do I want a 100% Nanny State? No of course not!
Do I like open borders and scroungers? No of course not!
But neither do I want twats flying so called "drones" over my Town center or in the underground or being loaded up with fireworks or plastic bags full of petrol or worse and flown over a school play ground.
2 wrongs don't make a right and many model flyers of all disciplines break the rules and laws on a regular basis. Many people break the law on a daily basis, that's their choice, but they also choose to take the risk of being caught and paying the penalty.
If a total ban on the sale and use of equipment for making and flying UASV's meant that the other disciplines of the hobby where protected then thats what I would support. And in my opinion that is what will happen if there is a major incident involving a UASV in the UK.
A total ban on the sale and importation of designated equipment that could be used to build and operate a USAV, including RTF planes and multis that are not operated by a fully qualified, registered and regulated operation or individual. In conjunction with a draconian fine and possible incarceration. Very much the same as current shotgun and firearm legislation and licensing which prevents the import sale and use of such.
Of course someone will point out that guns still get into the country and people get shot. I will reply to that by asking if anyone has cut thereself on a modelling knife?
Lastly a quick tip to anyone interested in reading the above: If you are dead set on breaking the law and acting like a twat dont be so stupid as to publish it on forum's such as this and You Tube that are being monitored by the CAA etc etc.
Quote from: Gundummy on December 13, 2015, 04:06:50 PM
just to add ... my misses is watching XFactor recorded from last night - the drone footage from where the 2 non-reflective singers visit Newcastle shows a face down recording flying over the Tyne Bridge while full of traffic amongst other things...
I guess some professionals are idiots to!
They got worse that that in 2013 on the Xfactor with "professional" drones. Not only did they fly over the crowd, but lost control and crashed into the crowd as well ! And it wasn't a small, light DJI Phantom either.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMN8dKNkoj0#)
I have to admit reading this .. people are passionate about their hobby!
Quote from: Coyote on December 13, 2015, 04:35:25 PM
They got worse that that in 2013 on the Xfactor with "professional" drones. Not only did they fly over the crowd, but lost control and crashed into the crowd as well ! And it wasn't a small, light DJI Phantom either.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMN8dKNkoj0#)
For the first time Ian - you are talking absolute rubbish.
The commercial pilot in 2013 had done extensive risk assessment before the day of filming the queuing crowds. From his analysis his planned and actual flight was a path line along a line over the RIVER.
On the actual recording flight, there was a mechanical failure with a wiring connection to his GPS (if I remember correctly). The quad went out of control and crashed into the river. At no time, despite how it looks in the video, did he fly above the crowds.
The CAA were directly involved in the investigation to the point of paying for divers to recover the octo from the river bed for fault examination.
The discovered fault resulted in the CAA issuing a notice to all BNUC-S qualified pilots to stress the need to pre-flight check their craft for faults.
Because of the 'good' risk assessment done and the 'safest' flight path decided upon - the CAA took no action against the professional pilot.
If that is correct I stand corrected then :)
If your daft enough to post something that is obviously a bit iffy then stand by to reap your rewards ;D
dizzy :laugh:
bit harsh GT40 :-X ..... .. . . .
but the point remains that even pro's f**k it up!!
I'll see if i can dig out the X factor footage and throw that back in the mix! ;D
Quote from: Coyote on December 13, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
If that is correct I stand corrected then :)
I assure you it is correct. A few months after the incident I took Part I of BNUC-S with the then only approved teaching body, EuroUSC at their base near Heathrow. The lead teacher, Andre Clot, has been involved in numerous discussions with CAA over the development of suitable rules and regs for U / RPAS's.
He was called in by the CAA to help with the investigation of this incident and we discussed the details and ramifications at length.
Gundummy suggests I have been a "bit harsh" with you. I am sorry he thinks that but, as I have the utmost respect for your (Coyote's) in depth knowledge of our hobby + appreciation of the time and effort you continue to put in to support the workings of this Forum, together with your unfailing generosity of giving advice to everyone from newbs to experts, I was sincerely shocked to read something so wrong.
It's bad enough with peeps like this stupid Lincoln man bringing our interests into disrepute - but to have the 'oracle' - Coyote get it wrong (admittedly just once) - well, it took my breath away.
All done & finished now!
no offense meant and none taken .....
I wouldn't call Coyote an Oracle ..... more an expert on blue smoke ... ;D
To be fair to Coyote, there's normally so much misinformation in different places it's sometimes difficult to understand what actually happens.
Just catching up tonite on the latest gossip after a weekend away and my word, what a lot of stuff about this guy. I'm surprised that no-one posted this little piece on him too. Not the best of reporting as the Drone Show was more than a few miles from Linclon, but it seems there's nowhere to hide these days.
http://www.suasnews.com/2015/12/40718/uk-wanted-drone-pilot-allegedly-spotted-at-uk-drone-show-2015/ (http://www.suasnews.com/2015/12/40718/uk-wanted-drone-pilot-allegedly-spotted-at-uk-drone-show-2015/)
And so the net closes :D
dizzy ;)
Quotehe is known to the unmanned community in the UK who are dismayed at his actions.
lol, you think they've been reading this thread?
First thing I'd do is get rid of that bloody beard lol
Quite a few commercial operators who act dismayed at the actions of pilots like this are precisely the same people who used to do it before they got licensed and thought they'd make a million quid a month photographing windmills, he he.
I'm more concerned Garry Glitter has been released
You'll be fine, assuming you're not a 7 year old Vietnamese boy.
Quote from: BlueFlyer on December 13, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
lol, you think they've been reading this thread?
First thing I'd do is get rid of that bloody beard lol
Seriously? Of course the forum is monitored by the gov
He's not doing any favours to those of us who recently grew beads either
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To be fair.....it is a hidious beard!
'Known to the unmanned community' - so....the plot thickens.... ok, so which one of you is it!? ;)
Keukpa
Maybe it is a fake beard to throw off the feds?
Quote from: Steve W on December 13, 2015, 10:25:39 PM
Quite a few commercial operators who act dismayed at the actions of pilots like this are precisely the same people who used to do it before they got licensed and thought they'd make a million quid a month photographing windmills, he he.
I have no idea what you are trying to insinuate
:o
Quote from: Teamftp on December 14, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
I have no idea what you are trying to insinuate
:o
I think it's directed at someone else to be fair! ;)
TeamFTP you're probably the last person I'd expect to ever hear complaining about people's flying. Unless you've suddenly started to wear beige cords and pop a tent pole when the BMFA mag arrives in your letterbox, don't worry.
QuoteYou'll be fine, assuming you're not a 7 year old Vietnamese boy.
:laugh:
I think this whole thread is a blessing... if everyone buys a clip on beard with a white streak down it and wears it while out flying..... there would be national sightings.
lets do it
I tell ya, Bruce Simpson gets everywhere...
Hang out in Bluewaters Shopping Centre wearing a clip on Rolf Harris beard holding a white DJI tx and staring at the ceiling. Bet it would make bbc news
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Quote from: BigT on December 16, 2015, 09:15:02 AM
Hang out in Bluewaters Shopping Centre wearing a clip on Rolf Harris beard holding a white DJI tx and staring at the ceiling. Bet it would make bbc news
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:rofl: somebodies got to do it :laugh:
but it needs filming for us all ;)
dizzy ;D
We should do a synchro in all the major shopping centres and give a prize to the one who gets the biggest fine
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going to a major shopping centre dressed like gary glitter is going to get you more than a fine! :laugh:
Turns out hes handed himself in....
Unauthorised Lincoln drone flight man comes forward
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-35113347 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-35113347)