I've got a footy field in front of my house and it's a shame I can't exploit it but I never really got into 250 racers, probably because I lack any flying skills have an acquired taste.
So today I got hold of a Hornet from Rob. For those that attended the last Mad Dogs on the Saturday this is the wing Rob was bezzing around and has been on sale now for a few months I think.
The kit came in a nice box:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1442-e1449860809897.jpg)
It only uses a 250 motor and mini esc, and runs of a teeny little 0.8ah 3s battery. Should be quite fun.
Mocked up it seems to be about 550mm wide and has a monkey-blunt style bay for the battery, receiver and FPV gear.
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1444-e1449861156667.jpg)
When I flew the development version I was quite impressed with how it handled, so I'm looking forward to getting this built and smashed into a few goalposts!
Ooo Ooo Ooo... can I have a go! Looked like it flew really well at MD, didn't currykitten have a go?
Quote from: Brucey on December 11, 2015, 08:26:56 PM
Ooo Ooo Ooo... can I have a go! Looked like it flew really well at MD, didn't currykitten have a go?
CK and Luke I think.
Yeah, hoping to get it all done by next weekend so you can have a bash then. Need to get some more batteries but already thinking about 4s!
Don't let Rob hear! Batteries are the least of your worry, we need some good bloody weather!
I had a similar idea last week - got a HK Bonsai, under 40 quid all in.
Waiting for weather now...
(http://s8.postimg.org/qhkwuvsvl/291120153655.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qhkwuvsvl/)
This looks quite cool, and yes no doubt similar to the Bonsai. The Bonsai is a fantastic model but this Hornet is hardly more expensive. That mega combo thing is really good value.
That's my review a few years ago on the Bonsai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OMrK5ZZ8mk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OMrK5ZZ8mk)
They slope soar well too!
a mate got one few weeks ago ,great size for some close stuff.
same molding as my old miniraven I think? which I use for night flying LOS..bullnose on fpv version
here it is with me trying to follow with miniquad...
https://youtu.be/mDxKDR-D56U
Thanks for the vid Sheldon - good to hear yours was 175g - the book says 100 to 140, but I don't see how it could be as low as that.
Looking forward to this with a tiny cam and VTX ;)
So a bit more done on the Hornet. For once I bought a plane from Rob that actually existed, so have the luxury of instructions to ignore!
The first step is to cut a bay for the Battery and electronics:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1452-e1450457261215.jpg)
I cut my bay 5mm wider than the instructions to accommodate the 1000mah 4S batteries that arrived this week.
Then after that I glued the wing halves together with some Por:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1453-e1450457300129.jpg)
It may look a bit delicate at the point where the wings join for the moment, but the skid block will fit over it and strengthen everything up. Three spars too makes it quite a stiff wing.
There are a couple of ply rails that glue up against the skid block and form an area just behind the nose to fit a board camera, I sprayed these black and glued them up to the skid block, once that was dry I fitted the cheapo' camera I bought ages ago from BangGood and prepared to glue the skid block to the wing:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1455-e1450457471402.jpg)
While that was all going off, I set about fiddling with the electronics. Now, obviously a bird like this needs a long range system! Well, I actually have a plan for this plane that needs a little more than 2.4 and anyway, the only non-UHF stuff I have doesn't support elevon mixing. My plan is to have the antenna for the UHF ran in the foam itself, which will shift the resonant length of the antenna somewhat, so I tuned a monopole down so it would resonate in foam, using a dead wing halve from my ceiling of despair:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1457-e1450458073579.jpg)
That'll do, it ended up being 14mm shorter than the optimum length for a similar monopole in air.
The instructions come with a nice template for servo / control horn positioning:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1458-e1450458285931.jpg)
Also, off camera I fixed the elevons, which is just a matter of running a bead of Por along each edge and joining them together after a few minutes. Once it goes off you end up with a nice strong, flexible joint. I also glued the motor mount to the wing and fixed up all the electronics:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1460-e1450458557821.jpg)
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1461-e1450458792659.jpg)
There's not masses of room, but just enough to house a 12a ESC width-ways if a little relief is cut on each side of the wing for it to fit into, just in front of the motor mount. The VTX and RX still had to go in the wing, just recessed in.
The control rods are made by gluing a thin carbon spar to a rod of steel supplied, the manual says to just CA them then use heat shrink to keep them together, but to stop them slipping apart and ease the jointing of glue to the rods I decided to wrap the two rods tightly with cotton which would give more area for the CA to purchase against:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1463-e1450460530863.jpg)
And with the rods in place and the winglets glued on she's ready to go!:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1467-e1450460597200.jpg)
All up weight is 260g with a 4S 1000, it sounds like a nutter too, hopefully I'll be able to get a flight in sometime over the weekend and report back.
Looks good. Nice thinking with the aerial tuning, suppose you had plenty spare foam knocking about...
Quote from: Brucey on December 18, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
Looks good. Nice thinking with the aerial tuning, suppose you had plenty spare foam knocking about...
It's fair to say the ceiling in the Technical Centre of Excellence is well insulated!
So after reading the FAA Drone Registration thread, I calculated that the 0.55 lbs minimum registration weight is just a touch under 250g.
With a 4S 1000mah battery this weights just over that, but with a 800mah 3s it's well under the limit:
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_0328-e1450470414259.jpg)
So I reckon with a 3S 1000 it will be within the limit and still a hell of a lot of fun.
Looks great
Could you get a 800mah 4s battery maybe?
Isn't the drone regulation only for the U.S? Why are you worrying about it? :)
Quote from: Billy_boy_2010 on December 18, 2015, 11:35:20 PM
Isn't the drone regulation only for the U.S? Why are you worrying about it? :)
I'm not worrying about it, it was just an observation; other people read The Internet too.
Quote from: Dillwhacker on December 11, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
I had a similar idea last week - got a HK Bonsai, under 40 quid all in.
Waiting for weather now...
(http://s8.postimg.org/qhkwuvsvl/291120153655.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qhkwuvsvl/)
I maidened my leetle 'park fly' Bonsai last week in the rain...
180g AUW.
Spektrum SPMVA1100 just for fun.
Flies lovely, and looks like 8 or 9 min flights on a 2S 500 LiPo, which is fine for me for a park flyer.
SPMVA1100 powered by a separate 1S 500 LiPo Velcro'd underneath to make a little 26 gram 'go anywhere' FPV thingy.
Will have some short range fun with this.
;D
(http://www.peely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_1457-e1450458073579.jpg)
That's a very nice bit of kit. Are They on HobbyKing? ..... Can i have that one... :D give you a fiver...
Quote from: Gundummy on December 19, 2015, 09:21:40 AM
That's a very nice bit of kit. Are They on HobbyKing? ..... Can i have that one... :D give you a fiver...
That'5 £5 more than I paid for it, but I'll keep it thanks.
Quote from: iPeel on December 18, 2015, 11:39:21 PM
I'm not worrying about it, it was just an observation; other people read The Internet too.
Are you claiming yanks can read?
Jeez that's a bit strong mate.
Any further updates on this project, i really fancy a small proximity wing after seeing an fpv bonsai on the x jet channel, will this wing slow up and be controllable or is it just a nutters wing
Nick
Yes, I managed to maiden it this morning. It was still a bit windy but definitely flyable.
I still need to get my eye in flying it, it's definitely going to be a lot of fun though! It'll be great at the next FPV meet with a few of these bombing around. I'm not all that happy with the quality of the camera I'm using, it was all a bit murky although I can probably trim the brightness and contrast a bit better through the goggles.
https://youtu.be/sOSDnAFuvlU (https://youtu.be/sOSDnAFuvlU)
I'm glad I watched it to the end, I was egging you on to go through the goalposts!
Those goals look a lot wider than when I last flew there
;D
Well i think iam going to order one with the power kit and servos, its near as dam the same price as the HK bonsai and it fits my criterior, i need it to fit inside a sports direct bag, have good flight times and its ready made for micro fpv gear ive just ordered and ive got 4 x 1000 3s lipos
Quote from: karlak on January 01, 2016, 04:36:02 PM
Those goals look a lot wider than when I last flew there
Brucey: Just a warm-up as you know so well!
Yeah Simon, the junior goalposts are in the next field, a good 2 minute walk from my house so out of the question today, we'll fly those again in good time!
Quote from: Roadrunner on January 01, 2016, 06:26:34 PM
Well i think iam going to order one with the power kit and servos, its near as dam the same price as the HK bonsai and it fits my criterior, i need it to fit inside a sports direct bag, have good flight times and its ready made for micro fpv gear ive just ordered and ive got 4 x 1000 3s lipos
Nice one.
You won't regret it, it flies as well as a wing twice its size. There's not bags of room but the centre section still makes placement a bit easier and strengthens the join compared to a wing without a blunt section.
One thing I would make a note of is not to use a hot glue gun when glueing the servos in place and use Por instead. The micro servos have a really thin case and if your hot glue gun is too hot then it can actually sieze up the gears in the servos. (?)
Noice !, do you think a 3s 1300mah would slip in it ? as i have about 6 plus of them, maybe with a 2204 ?
Quote from: iPeel on January 01, 2016, 06:39:11 PM
Nice one.
You won't regret it, it flies as well as a wing twice its size. There's not bags of room but the centre section still makes placement a bit easier and strengthens the join compared to a wing without a blunt section.
One thing I would make a note of is not to use a hot glue gun when glueing the servos in place and use Por instead. The micro servos have a really thin case and if your hot glue gun is too hot then it can actually sieze up the gears in the servos. (?)
Thanks for the tip on the servos, is it worth laminating the wing, ive read the extra weight is cancelled out by less drag of the laminate and i hate foam planes for marking or do i keep it as light as possible as i want to slow fly it, the build instructions on the website say to use por for the elevon hinges is this reliable,again i could laminate the hinges in
Regards nick
There's no need to laminate it, the three spars make it stiff and you really want to avoid the extra weight. Laminating won't affect drag that much and given the size and thickness of the wing you risk warping, it'd be a really fiddly job too!
The elvons are held on with a bead of Por glue and work fine to create a strong joint. In fact, be careful you don't use too much por. Once you have attached the elevons using Por avoid the temptation to tape over the hinge or laminate, it really doesn't need it.
Well its on it way, should be here tuesday and thanks for your advise and tips, will post some pics when its built
Nick
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Bwaa ha ha haaaa!! I'm in! ;D
Looks fun!
How well does it handle the wind?
Quote from: Billy_boy_2010 on January 05, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
Looks fun!
How well does it handle the wind?
Given it weights about the same as a packet of Walker's crisps you do notice the wind. It was still quite windy when I flew it though and it was still easily controllable.
Mine is coming along fine, I've done some of the cutting and sticky bits. Was especially impressed by how well the Por stuck elevons work - really nice.
What I decided to do, rather than cut in a straight line, is go all wonky and drunk as I didn't want to intimidate the rest of you with a perfect build. I'll top off this effect with a rats nest of wires later.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1693/24198701065_7a90f2c0bb_c.jpg)
It's so small and cute :)
Quote from: CurryKitten on January 05, 2016, 11:21:40 PM
What I decided to do, rather than cut in a straight line, is go all wonky and drunk as I didn't want to intimidate the rest of you with a perfect build. I'll top off this effect with a rats nest of wires later.
Like your style, think I may go in with a butter knife :D
They may be small, but you'll still find a way of hitting me Wayne. :P
Well mines arrived, i carnt believe how tiny it is, the emax motor looks quality though, its my first wing and first epp model, is anyone using hot glue or will por surfice for everything, i may use hot glue on the tags of each servo mind, i may give mine some colour as foam isnt my favourite media for planes, but i do understand electric planes need to lite, having said that its mainly for looking from not at!, iam actually quiet impressed with the little bugger and looking forward to assembling it just got to wait for my cheap fpv set to come from china
Nick
I think I used Por on pretty much everything in the end including the spars. Hot glue is good for the motor mount if you're impatient as keeping it in place for that long without it parting is hard.
TBH it's a really easy build so hot glue or Por will work well, Hot glue all round would make it a really fast build.
The only real head scratching moment is getting all the electronics to fit in the room you have!
I've not got this but a similar one from Hobbyking the skywalker x1. Only flown line of sight so far but goes well, certainly gets bounced around in the wind though :o
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Well my cheap eachine fpv kit came today, its only a 25mw set but iam only flying it proximity and iam only using a spectrum park flyer reciever so really the pair should match each other nicely, the vtx and camera seem to match the immersion rc stuff that came with my goggles, going to try my hand a making a cloverleaf antenna also, ordered a pigtail cable with the sma connector on it but ive also ordered an rp sma to sma 90 degree so i can fit my fatshark cloverleaf but i would like to make a custom antenna to fit to my hornet, so barring a bit of paint for the wing ive got everything i need now
Nick
It's Wayne's fault that I pressed the button for one of these on Boxing day after seeing his Xmas pressie. The better half paid for mine as as well, she said she would get me something for Xmas modelling related when I saw something I wanted, so that didn't take long.
Fantastic service from Rob as it was ordered on the 26th and arrived on either the 30th or 31st.
With my son back at school today work has finally started.
Regards, Mark
Started my Hornet build tonight and it really goes together quick doesn't it! QQ though, what spray paint are you guys using for the type of foam Rob uses, I need to add a splash of colour to mine to personalise it and I've not painted foam before?
Your might, I'm on a bit of a go slow... I think it's the case of not flying for ages and forgetting how much fun it is. Anyway, connected motor, esc, rx and servos today. Made much motor ran the right direction and servos were moving correctly. Mounted motor on mount, and drew around servos ready for cutting tomorrow. Still not sure exactly where I'm putting the ESC and rx yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out as I go.
Quote from: HerkyBird on January 09, 2016, 01:07:37 AM
Started my Hornet build tonight and it really goes together quick doesn't it! QQ though, what spray paint are you guys using for the type of foam Rob uses, I need to add a splash of colour to mine to personalise it and I've not painted foam before?
Use only acrylic spray paint, I get mine from Halfords but Wilkos also sell a decent range. Make sure you use only light sweeps and keep the distance quoted on the can from the foam as a minimum.
What Mr Peel said. Keep your distance and kind of 'drift' the paint on.
If you've got the bits you cut out from the battery bay, use them to do some tests.
Cheers, Mark
Er help please,the hornet is my first wing and ive got side thrust on the motor is this right, bit confused as which side the prop is thrusting cause the motor is on the back not the front
Not quite sure what you mean by side thrust? There would be a little downward thrust i.e. looking at the wing from the side the motor should be pointing back and up a little but not much, looking at the wing from the top though the motor should point straight backward, not to one side.
The prop should be on "backwards" i.e. the letters on the prop should point towards the front of the plane, when you power up you should get thrust backwards, if not then reverse two motor wires.
Ok so motor and prop mounted and prop set horizontally inline with the wing, one of the prop tips is closer to the trailling edge of the wing than the other side, tractor planes have down and right thrust viewed from the rear of the plane but iam not if pusher planes have side thrust, and no the prop isnt bent ha ha
Quote from: Roadrunner on January 11, 2016, 11:13:09 AM
Ok so motor and prop mounted and prop set horizontally inline with the wing, one of the prop tips is closer to the trailling edge of the wing than the other side, tractor planes have down and right thrust viewed from the rear of the plane but iam not if pusher planes have side thrust, and no the prop isnt bent ha ha
You can straighten it with some washers put behind the motor mounting lugs.
regards
Andy
What are we talking here, 1-2mm or 5 odd mm?
If it's just a couple of mm you won't notice it.
Yeah sorting it is no problem i just needed to know if pusher prop wings have side thrust, i must have glued the mount on slightly off
Cheers
Sidethrust isnt necessary on these wings, but a bit doesnt matter. The motor angle in pitch has an effect ( Upthrust downthrust), but usually the only way to figure out if its neede is to give plane a bung and see if you need to add up/down elevator as you put power on. Just make sure the C.G and elevons are trimmed/throws as docs say before launching, and that is the best you can do for maiden ( Well remove excess weight like fpv gear helps too, as long as C.G doesnt move)
regards
Andy
Is anyone having trouble balancing there wing, cg at 130mm from the nose and iam just taping down bits to find out where to install stuff, even with the fpv stuff on and situated at the front iam at 135-140mm cg,i have painted my wing but all up weight is still only 245 grams and thats with a 1000 mah 3s lipo
Just ordered 5 of these little wings, to prepare for a mini FPV racing league that our flying club will be running throughout the summer. Should be fun I reckon!
Quote from: Roadrunner on January 12, 2016, 10:02:04 PM
Is anyone having trouble balancing there wing, cg at 130mm from the nose and iam just taping down bits to find out where to install stuff, even with the fpv stuff on and situated at the front iam at 135-140mm cg,i have painted my wing but all up weight is still only 245 grams and thats with a 1000 mah 3s lipo
'fraid I wouldn't know about that as mine is running a bigger battery up front, I will say though that on the documented CG seems a little nose heavy in mine, you may be alright with the CG at that point. Try adding just 5-10 of nose weight for the maiden and you'll probably remove that afterwards.
Well managed to get it on cg by adding a 2p and a 5p so iam not that far away but thats with any spare wiring pushed up front still only 250 grams ready to fly
Can anyone recomend a differant esc as the one in the power set just gets warm and now my spekrum reciever also doesnt work, would a hobby king 10 amp 1 amp bec be enough
I run mine on a Plush 12, seeming as I run 4S. It powers an OpenLRS receiver well and the BEC supports up to 2 HobbyKing amps, not sure how they compare to real amps...
Right so esc sorted after contacting Rob at flyingwings he kindly replaced it and it powers up ok
Next question is elevon position, ive used a straight edge on the underside of the wing to level the elevons which gives some upward angle but i now need to add reflex also, is this done mechanically with the linkage or through sub trim, it does appear it will have a lot of up elavator is this normal, i carnt believe this little wing is causing me hassle after building planes and helis for nearly 30 years
Nick
With the elevon in line with the bottom of the wing, this might be enough up. Just add a few safety clicks of up trim to be sure on the maiden
Cheers brucey, can a wing be test glided before committing to crashing it then or is it just suck it an see
With a lightweight wing like that you can give it a test throw.
Don't forget to balance it left right also
Quote from: Brucey on January 17, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
With a lightweight wing like that you can give it a test throw.
Don't forget to balance it left right also
Test throw into long grass is dead safe imo :)
In one of my slowest ever builds I've finally got mine ready to maiden
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I'm finding the balance is very slight back from where it's supposed to be, but it sounds like it might be anyway reading through - would need a tiny bit of weight to get that bang on anyway.
Not maidening today as it's bloody freezing and keeps raining and stuff :(
Mine balances at about 135mm so iam adding a little weight just to bring forward and make it safer for a wing newb like me, just got an aerial support to fit and balance it out and its ready to go, will post some pics later
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Well heres my effort of a first wing build, sporting my tested diy aerial, ive placed everything as far forward as possible to help with the cg, changed the elevon links to a z bend, all the fpv wiring is stored in the void under the camera and is capped off with an offcut of black epp from the box, the aerial post is offcut of the motor mount,ive enjoyed build this wing and iam impressed with the elevon hindges uhu por, ive added a splash of colour as im not a fan of foamy planes, auw is 250 grams with around 5 grams up front to balance it out, fpv gear is banggood 25mw cheapy stuff with the camera pointing slightly down as light reaction isnt very good however my eyes seem to prefer the picture better than my fatshark image, going to change parkfly reciver to a full range one once i start flying the wing in fpv but as iam new to wings its los for now
Nick
So Rob and I flew our Hornets this morning around the footy field, I was surprised how easy it was to spot the Hornet from the air, I guess because flying in such a small area helps.
It's a shame the weather was so gloomy, I hope to get some much better footage when the weather brightens.
Looked fun, about the right size for that area
Maidened mine today, way to windy but i thought i'd at least test glide it and all went ok, so having never flown or even launched a wing before i thought well iam here might aswell give it ago, a gentle toss at half throttle saw it away nicely and i did a couple circuits then nosed in when i lost orientation, bugger as i was trying to find it in the long grass and the result is no damage what so ever,two things i noticed though were aileron control was twitchy while elevator was the opposite back to test gliding and removed 5 grams of weight and now the cg is at 135mm it floats better on the glide,so another flight and better this time and iam also getting more confidence flying it,would still like more elevator authority but iam struggling with setting as when i up the elevator travel only one elevon gets the travel hmmm, did i say it was my first wing
Best bit though after 6 mins of flight and 20 mins of faffing about it drew 300 mah out of the flight pack
Only one elevator goes up?
That will make it rather difficult to fly!
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Quote from: rob.thomson on January 23, 2016, 06:30:43 PM
Only one elevator goes up?
That will make it rather difficult to fly!
No both elevons move but only the elevator servo gets the extra movement the aileron servo stays at normal rate, iam using a dx6i
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did he say DX6I.. :o
:P
Laugh all you want but its served me perfectly for the last 5 years on all wing types no glitches losses or crash's isnt that the sign of a good radio
Anyway sorted the elevon mix
lol no offence ... I loved mine until i ran out of channels.
Got mine dialled in nicely now, what a giggle these hornet wings are, it's rubust enough to enjoy while learning to fpv and flys really well in the wind and consumes very little battery power, suits where i fly perfectly, i built mine for slow and low proximity flying and it seems perfect,just need a calm day to fpv it
Been dialing mine in over the last few days of sun & calm weather. Found I needed loads more control surface throw than the instructions suggested. Still lethargic in roll.
Great fun FPV though😃😃
Downside being my goggles clearly need updating. Is there anywhere in the north east where you can have a demo of the goggles out there??
Quote from: luvbus on February 25, 2016, 04:47:16 PM
Been dialing mine in over the last few days of sun & calm weather. Found I needed loads more control surface throw than the instructions suggested. Still lethargic in roll.
Great fun FPV though😃😃
Downside being my goggles clearly need updating. Is there anywhere in the north east where you can have a demo of the goggles out there??
Yeah, you need more movement than you think on the elevons, I've made my high rates my standard rates now. Worth playing a little with the CG too, I have my CG about 10mm back from the official point.
A quick update on mine, Rob and I have been flying these little wings a lot, I'm loving mine!
What I decided to do is to replace the chapo' Banggood camera I had on mine with a proper PZ0420m, seeming as I'm flying this wing more than any of my other planes at the moment I thought it was a worthwhile investment!
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The Runcam PZ0420m fits in the front section a treat and gives a much better image than my last camera, no surprises.
What I also did was to give myself some peace of mind on the TX side of things too. This isn't a long distance wing but I do go fast and low, sometimes behind stuff. It's only running 5.8Ghz but I wanted to make sure I wasn't running out of control range. This gave me an opportunity to try out a neat feature of OpenLRS which is the ability to send an audible beep out of the RSSI port instead of an RSSI voltage level.
Setting this up is quite easy, I connected to the receiver through the transmitter interface and set my RSSI port (port 3) to "Packet loss - Beeper":
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Then I connected the signal of port 3 to the audio input of the VTX:
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I tested by powering everything up, then switching the VTX off and I got a beep through the headphones plugged into my Fatsharks, it's a pretty neat feature when you want peace of mind on RSSI without wanting an OSD.
I can't wait to set a meet up with a load more of these and get some real carnage on the go.
Neil.
Quote from: iPeel on February 28, 2016, 12:43:15 PM
I can't wait to set a meet up with a load more of these and get some real carnage on the go.
Sounds a right laugh!!
Is everyone using the supplied 5x3 prop?
I found it was a bit weak so tried a 5x4.5 bullnose which flew great but hammered the battery. Now I am on a 5x4 dal, 10min airtime with enough oumph for charging about. :D
I'm using the 5x3 prop and the same motor as the wing deal, but on 4s.
I also found the elevons needed more movement and the c o g needed to be further back also the recomended 30% expo means iam using alot of stick, power wise iam on the stock kit motor and prop and it goes vertical, but at half throttle i can get 20 mins on a 3s 1000 mah, love mine but need a calm day to fpv it
Think I'll try moving the CoG back to liven it up a bit.
I'm on the package motor & esc too. May have to give the stock prop another go as 20min sounds great although I'm on the 850mah pack.
Mine won't go vertical for long on the stock prop. Not an issue with the other two I've tried.
Lots of fun though :)
I finally managed to maiden mine yesterday. I do love a maiden that gives absolutely no trauma at all. Flies lovely. Definitely worth a better flight cam as iPeel mentions, and my COG was happy 10mm back as well.
Obviously I made a video
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTm9GgEGzTQ#)
Built mine during the week and maidened it yesterday. Flew nice. I found as others - 30% expo is ok but the servo's need more movement. I'm going to make some new holes in the servo things on the wings lower down for more movement, needs around 50-100% more I think.
Flew ok, a little twitchy even in 5-10mph wind, hoping with some adjustments it'll fly great. Balanced around 5mm further back than the recommended CoG, but with advice from here I've left that as is.
(http://i.imgur.com/Rj9vcvm.jpg)
Nice one Matt, looks great.
What's those extra lines running to the centre? Are those extra spars to strengthen it for the next rebound meet? :-)
Antennas :) not quite 90 deg to each other, but should be fine!
(http://i.imgur.com/6TgYC7B.jpg)
A more "funky" picture.
Sweeeet !
Nice install and spray job.
Mines all muddy now, lookin a bit used :laugh:
Rob
Have now maiden mine and it flies great. Looking forward to some serious fun with this baby.
(http://s8.postimg.org/5in0c4xfl/P1040981.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5in0c4xfl/)
Having said I'm happy with the wing, my friends box came with no template either. I emailed nearly 2 weeks ago now and no response.
Probably wouldn't order again on that basis. It's the little things. </rant>
Sorry about the template, did not see that email, I get a lot of mail !
I will put in on the website in case it happens again
Ta Rob
Quote from: foamster on March 11, 2016, 10:54:07 AM
Sorry about the template, did not see that email, I get a lot of mail !
I will put in on the website in case it happens again
Ta Rob
Cheers Rob much appreciated :)
Sorry for the rant!
Are you guys laminating the Hornet ? Just to give a little more strength for the inevitable mishaps. :)
Nah, keep the weight down.
I've been letting the guys I work with fly mine, it has taken a right hammering and is still in good order....
Had my first day today with mine.
Flew it only FPV, It was launched and put into the air by a friend then handed over to me. Next step is launching myself.
Put a 5045BN on it, on 3s still seems to be lacking power (my opinion - opinion with no experience), I'm running a 2204 2300 currently tempted to try a 1806 2700 I have sat around.
Try a prop with a bit more pitch.
Mine was the same on the standard prop.
I tried a 5045 bullnose. It was really fast but ate into the flight time.
Finally I settled on a 5040 which is a nice compromise.
Just got some 4S for it so will probably end up back on the standard prop.....
I maidened my hornet yesterday too. One of my friends has the stock setup which is efficient but to be honest its a bit anaemic and lacks grunt. I got the kit version and added a 2206 Black widow quad motor and 6045 bn. It has lots of power and outright speed and I'm very impressed with the wing in general. The motor has an 18 amp esc built in so ideal on a wing this small to keep it away from the VTX. I got around 9-10 mins flight time (fast flight) on nanotech 850mah 3s 40c, which had 11v left afterwards. It will fly on 1/3rd throttle or less so could get much longer flight time if I wasn't so giddy :D. Also I kept the rates at 100, just added a bit of expo and it can turn very tight and has a great roll rate. Over all a very impressed with this wing and power setup, just need the nice weather to return :)
(http://s8.postimg.org/ix3fy7dip/WP_20160324_14_45_48_Pro.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ix3fy7dip/)
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Quote from: luvbus on March 26, 2016, 07:21:37 AM
Try a prop with a bit more pitch.
Mine was the same on the standard prop.
I tried a 5045 bullnose. It was really fast but ate into the flight time.
Finally I settled on a 5040 which is a nice compromise.
Just got some 4S for it so will probably end up back on the standard prop.....
8mins on a 850 3s with a 5045, I found I was using about 80% throttle constantly. I'm going to get used to flying this on 3s, then I'll be going 4S soon - as its the same batteries for my 180 quad.
Are you running 1806 or 2204?
Maybe 6" is what I need. But already for the 2204 already had to add 50g of weight to the front to get the CG rihgt.
COG ??
Just to be clear, are people taking the COG from the very front of the Skid/Camera tray, or from where the front of the wing meets up with the skid tray ? (if that makes sense)
Quote from: karlak on March 28, 2016, 07:37:12 PM
COG ??
Just to be clear, are people taking the COG from the very front of the Skid/Camera tray, or from where the front of the wing meets up with the skid tray ? (if that makes sense)
I used the front of the camera tray, I think the instructions say the nose.
It's from the front of the nose and not the leading edge on the Hornet Simon.
Hurry up and get it built so we can fly. :D
Quote from: iPeel on March 28, 2016, 07:55:50 PM
It's from the front of the nose and not the leading edge on the Hornet Simon.
Hurry up and get it built so we can fly. :D
Pretty much done, just need to get a clover antenna for the VTX :) .
Quote from: sundee on March 26, 2016, 01:49:04 PM
8mins on a 850 3s with a 5045, I found I was using about 80% throttle constantly. I'm going to get used to flying this on 3s, then I'll be going 4S soon - as its the same batteries for my 180 quad.
Are you running 1806 or 2204?
Maybe 6" is what I need. But already for the 2204 already had to add 50g of weight to the front to get the CG rihgt.
I get about 9 1/2 min on a 5x4.
Surprised you are having to use 80% throttle on the 4.5 prop, mine screamed around on that.
I have the standard motor as supplied by Flyingwings.
You must have a big lump out back if you need weight up front to get the CoG right, I keep moving the battery back to make it more responsive.....
Loads of fun though, just need the wind to drop again.....
Quote from: luvbus on March 28, 2016, 08:45:23 PM
I get about 9 1/2 min on a 5x4.
Surprised you are having to use 80% throttle on the 4.5 prop, mine screamed around on that.
I have the standard motor as supplied by Flyingwings.
You must have a big lump out back if you need weight up front to get the CoG right, I keep moving the battery back to make it more responsive.....
Loads of fun though, just need the wind to drop again.....
Its a 2204, I'm going to fly a 1806 2700kv next week on it I think.
Have you got the prop on the right way round Sundee?
Cheers, Mark
Another Hornet is born, just waiting for some XT30's and we're ready.
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I feel very lazy for not putting any paint on mine now. Thing is I expect to share the air at some point with iPeel, and he always crashes into me, so I don't expect it to last that long.
Don't worry Wayne, we'll get some unique marks on yours in not too long.
Hopefully going to maiden mine tomorrow morning.
I have the brown trousers ready.
Cheers, Mark
Brown trousers? Its A hornet!
Brown trousers? Its A hornet!
Quote from: Brucey on April 01, 2016, 05:25:17 PM
Brown trousers? Its A hornet!
If it'll go wrong for me it will. lol.
Looking forward to it actually.
Another Hornet ready for its Maiden :). just some bits to glue down over night....
And yes, before some smart arse comments - I know the Prop isnt on ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/simfin/20160402_145634_zpsd7zhlez7.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/simfin/media/20160402_145634_zpsd7zhlez7.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/simfin/20160402_145651_zpsfgocfeze.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/simfin/media/20160402_145651_zpsfgocfeze.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/simfin/20160402_145641_zps2zmfcpjj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/simfin/media/20160402_145641_zps2zmfcpjj.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/simfin/20160402_145700_zpsoyod8fwo.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/simfin/media/20160402_145700_zpsoyod8fwo.jpg.html)
How come both your rx atennas are lying flat, shouldnt one be vertical, btw your prop isnt on (sorry) you sort of asked for it
Quote from: Roadrunner on April 02, 2016, 04:46:30 PM
How come both your rx atennas are lying flat, shouldnt one be vertical, btw your prop isnt on (sorry) you sort of asked for it
2.4Ghz RX and is a full range FrSky, so will be more than fine for the distance I will be going with the Hornet :)
Thinking of getting one of these after my wife crushed the Raven in a cupboard! I've got loads of 1300 3s batts that I don't use - are they too big?
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Quote from: elmattbo on May 09, 2016, 02:57:36 PM
Thinking of getting one of these after my wife crushed the Raven in a cupboard! I've got loads of 1300 3s batts that I don't use - are they too big?
A little. I do run the 1000Mah 4S Turnigy blues but they're just on the limit.
Hi peeps, I've not been on here much but I just bought one of these critters and thought I would do a search for hornet on here and here I am.
I have pretty much all the gear to stick in it so am looking to give it a lick of paint before I crack on with the electrics. What paint are you chaps using on the foam? Cheers in advance.
I like jimbo33's camo design!
Team wooly sheep have a build and parts video
http://youtu.be/bWmG5MprHYM (http://youtu.be/bWmG5MprHYM)
Interesting....
His weighs 422g RTF, mine weighs 273g RTF.
But his batt is twice the capacity of mine....
So I guess it will be twice as fast and and twice as hard to launch :o
Assuming the wings are cut from a solid sheet - how does he expect that to be done to produce a one-piece wing?
Yep.
Secret to success with these things is keeping the weight down. I can fly for 10 mins with an 850 3S which isn't bad.
Quote from: Dillwhacker on October 20, 2016, 11:13:21 PM
Interesting....
His weighs 422g RTF, mine weighs 273g RTF.
But his batt is twice the capacity of mine....
So I guess it will be twice as fast and and twice as hard to launch :o
Assuming the wings are cut from a solid sheet - how does he expect that to be done to produce a one-piece wing?
Yep.
A bit of extra weight at speed gives stability. On 4S its wicked... especially with a tri blade
Quote from: Fr3nzy on October 21, 2016, 03:36:43 PM
Secret to success with these things is keeping the weight down. I can fly for 10 mins with an 850 3S which isn't bad.
Try 4s with a 5x4.5 tri blade...... its is like on rails.......its a need for speed
I have a 1806 2700kv motor to try with a 20A little bee fav esc. Still need to find some paint for it too.
Halfords ArtFX range works really well.
Just ordered myself one of these bad boys.
I got the "mega deal" which comes with everything apart from receiver and FPV kit.
I've got one of these I'm putting on it:
http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5_8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-14-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1088368.html)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/Hornet/TX02.JPG)
It arrived today, but the workbench is busy with other ongoing mini-projects so won't be starting the build for at least the next few days
Quote from: BlueFlyer on November 18, 2016, 12:52:44 PM
It arrived today, but the workbench is busy with other ongoing mini-projects so won't be starting the build for at least the next few days
Haha! Within hours of writing this you'd started a build log! Couldn't resist could you?!
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done! (minus fpv gear)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/Hornet/web/H24.jpg)
Not sure if this counts as having landed or not...
(https://s14.postimg.org/mw4iebcvh/20161126_145509.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mw4iebcvh/)
course it does... you landed in a tree.
I have to disagree....
The word landing includes the word land.
There's a clue right there.....
:P
Best news though was that I had the dvr running, footage compiling now :D
Cool !
Hope you got it back OK & not too much damage.
Only damage is a small chunk taken out of the leading edge. More annoying was I lost the vtx and antenna. It was borrowed so I'd just taped it down so I could remove it and give it back without it being covered in glue. Even with a bright orange antenna and 5 of us looking it was no where to be seen
Here's footage from the ill fated flight. youtu.be/iPcl4Da9uoQ (http://youtu.be/iPcl4Da9uoQ)
Just finished my Mini Hornet FPV. Maiden tomorrow afternoon weather permitting, with a friend who has just built one too.
20A little bee favorite ESC
2700kv DYS 1806 motor 5x4.5 quadcopter prop
Bought the accompanying 3s 800mAh lipo to get used to it then I will lob in a 4s I think. 5 and 12v UBECs fitted so its '4s Ready' :)
First time flying the Hornet in calm weather, what a great afternoons flying. Had 50 min of dvr footage to go through to try and get it down to a reasonable length :)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMj4BxlRi8c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMj4BxlRi8c)
nice one dp
Just back from my mini Hornet maiden. Bit of trim to get level flight was all that was required really - bit of up elevator. Then an hour enjoying the calm weather between 2 - 3pm this afternoon, on a local flying field with a mate.
Perfect escapism!
I didn't try FPV although I had my goggs on standby. I just flew it LOS to learn its characteristics at low n high speed. I even plopped in one of my quad 4s 1300mAh lipo's to try - yeah baby ;D !
It's not total relaxed flying, but I knew it wouldn't be - very good fun though - keeps you focused and absorbed plus a decent flying time, if you take it easy on the throttle.
I will try and keep it one piece as long as possible.
Gav, does your hornet have the stock 12A ESC that comes with the deal, or did you get the kit only and put your own electronics in?
I'm just wondering if the stock setup will take 4S without releasing the magic smoke... because my hornet only has the super tiny and lightweight Eachine TX02 all-in-one cam/VTX I'm completely unable to get the CG far enough forward.... so I'm considering some larger LiPos (1000mah 3S) perhaps even a 4S LiPo.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/Hornet/web/H25.jpg)
Quote from: BlueFlyer on December 05, 2016, 05:51:08 PM
Gav, does your hornet have the stock 12A ESC that comes with the deal, or did you get the kit only and put your own electronics in?
I'm just wondering if the stock setup will take 4S without releasing the magic smoke... because my hornet only has the super tiny and lightweight Eachine TX02 all-in-one cam/VTX I'm completely unable to get the CG far enough forward.... so I'm considering some larger LiPos (1000mah 3S) perhaps even a 4S LiPo.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8259957/FPV/Hornet/web/H25.jpg)
Hi matey, I put my own electronics choice in. Bought just the kit and a 3s lipo from the shop.
20A littlebee esc (these work well on racing quads with hi kv motors)
1806 2700kv dys race edition motor.
12V regulator for the cam n vtx
3s great flew lovely and fast enough, 4s watch out as you can turn the plank into instant confetti with a dumb thumb moment at max throttle LoL. I've never done that in the past eh hem.
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Good job the hornet is fairly robust...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDokAoe5nn0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDokAoe5nn0)
I've added extra carbon to the top of mine but there are an increasing number of chunks coming out of the le. Watch the video and you'll get an idea why :D
Thanks guys, I've had a sheet week and that's put a smile on my face.
:P
Here's my latest addition mid build,to the flyingwings fleet!!
Looks like fun😀😀😀
(https://s27.postimg.org/vx73md0rz/IMG_1966.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vx73md0rz/)
First flight for mine today, went like a bullet !
https://postimg.org/image/kvalx9iep/
Last Friday, I bought a few bits from Flyingwings not least of which was a full Hornet kit.
By mid Saturday, I was board as I had no building to do..... ;)
Here are my efforts...
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(http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/KillerDave/Planes/DSC_0450.jpg) (http://s556.photobucket.com/user/KillerDave/media/Planes/DSC_0450.jpg.html)
And the Hornet sits nicely with her big sister... :D
(http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/KillerDave/Planes/DSC_0447.jpg) (http://s556.photobucket.com/user/KillerDave/media/Planes/DSC_0447.jpg.html)
Please excuse the state of my bench! Lol....
Nice :)
Snap, I have a pair of them....
(https://s30.postimg.org/jz2x4bjdp/IMG_20161012_071453917.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jz2x4bjdp/)
Some flybys of my hornet & a hobbyking prime jet(plank jet)
Mine has a strobe on it!
https://gfycat.com/HonestWelloffHound
You guys need a Vent to complete the set
Quote from: Brucey on December 25, 2016, 08:30:24 PM
You guys need a Vent to complete the set
Well I have had an Evo in the past... so I guess I'd need the Vent to complete the set lol
Well,
I did take the Hornet for it's maiden and the Falcon to take some aerial video of my friends flying but for some reason, my Dom' SE's didn't record anything! Bugger!
Anyway, it all went well and we even had a search and rescue party for one of the guys.... all good now!
Hear are a couple of shots... of the FW sisters!...
(http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/KillerDave/Planes/DSC_0458.jpg)] (http://[url=http://s556.photobucket.com/user/KillerDave/media/Planes/DSC_0458.jpg.html)
(http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/KillerDave/Planes/DSC_0459.jpg)] (http://[url=http://s556.photobucket.com/user/KillerDave/media/Planes/DSC_0459.jpg.html)
Here's a quick video of todays fun with the Hornet...
I decided to bring along my daughter and now she wants to fly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlCt1zZMmIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlCt1zZMmIs)
(https://s23.postimg.org/3r3qfjmd3/IMG_1992.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3r3qfjmd3/)
The Hornet ready to play with its big brothers😃😃😃
Good to see the full set!
I'm working on it!
(https://s24.postimg.org/dsdo3fo6p/IMG_1991.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dsdo3fo6p/)
WHAT A GIGGLE!!!😂😂😂
Just trimmed her out 5 batteries through her,starting to get lower every one 👍So a hard landing soon in the "offing".
I can see why it's a "GO TO" wing !
Well done Rob at Flyingwings, and Neil at the Centre of excellence for a top Bird 👍👍👍👍
Just wait till you get a few in the air at the same time!
I don't suppose it will be long 🤓👍
Quote from: Brucey on December 29, 2016, 04:42:22 PM
Just wait till you get a few in the air at the same time!
I went flying on my maiden with Rob and John (Fixadrone) and had a blast...
I did have some video issues so didn't fly with the group much but next time!!!!
No doubt will catch up at some point then 👍Look forward to it.
Indeed...
Love my Hornet.
Flew it yesterday, chasing a seagull....
I was totally out-piloted, out-manoeuvred, out-flown and nearly stacked it.
Mr. seagull was just having a laugh 2 feet off the deck, prolly looking for worms....
Talented little beggar :o
Im running a lumenier fxc1806-14 2300kv motor with a 12a esc.
I have tried a 5x3 and a 5x4 also a carbon fibre 5x3.
I need more speed any recommendations.
4s will do the trick.......
Ok Nothing else i can do then really.
Quote from: mrorange26 on January 22, 2017, 11:21:55 PM
Ok Nothing else i can do then really.
What's the current and wattage limit for the motor?
A 5x5 will push well but that's probably going to frazzle it. A 4.5x4.5 if they exist may do it? maybe even a 4x5 if they exist?
Steeper pitch will unusually give more thrust. Launching will be harder.
Configuration: 12N14P
Stator Diameter: 18mm
Stator Length: 6m
Shaft Diameter: 2mm
Motor Dimension (Diameter x Length): Φ23×18.5mm
Weight(g): 18g (without prop adapter)
ldle current(10)@10v(A): 0.6A
No.of Cells(Lipo): 2-3S
Max Continuous current(A)180S: 14A
Max Continuous Power(W)180S: 150W
Max. efficiency current: (3-8A)>83%
Internal resistance: 117mΩ
Making the prop bigger but keeping the pitch the same will get you more thrust, making the pitch bigger but keeping the prop the same size will get you more speed.
Doing both will increase both thrust and speed, but increasing either will pull more amps. It's all about finding a sweet spot and using the correct components in order to cope with the results of your changes.
Thanks for info i will play with some different props.
Seriously, if you have built your wing in a way to handle 4S that is the way to go if you really want speed. Vertical performance and screaming around.
Mine is equipped with the eMax motor supplied in the power kit by Flyingwings. The key is to use a 'tame' prop, (5x4" twin blade standard tip DAL in my case) as the RPM is significantly higher and make sure your CoG is still correct after putting in a heavier battery.
ok thanks
Late to the party on this one, but just to say that I did some thrust tests with the standard Hornet motor, 3S 800mah Battery and ESC, and the best prop I found was a 6x3. I think the one I used was the RipMax one.
This gave a peak thrust of 428g @ 9.86A.
Currently checking out another power train (currently fitted to an X-1) but likely to make it onto a Hornet :
EMAX RS2205 2300KV motor
30A BLHELI_S ESC
6x4E Prop
Turnigy Bolt 1000maH 4S liHV
This gives a peak thrust of 1305g @ 29.38A.
What flight time do you get with a 6x3
@MartHugh,
Do you not find the 3" pitch a bit slow on 3S?
On 5x3 3s I do.
Did you happen to try a 5" bullnose prop?
No.
Mine arrived with a 5047 Bullnose, and was quite fast on 3S, but it killed the packs in about 4 minutes of hooning.
I now use 5040 non bullnose, and get around 8 or 9 minutes at 50% throttle, longer if I'm gentle, but it's not what I would call quick...
That's what I use but switch between 3 & 4S packs depending on how I want it to fly. Hooning around on 4s is fun but it is more balanced on 3S.
Quote from: mrorange26 on January 23, 2017, 12:44:25 PM
What flight time do you get with a 6x3
About the same as a 5040, around 5:30
Quote from: luvbus on January 23, 2017, 04:04:26 PM
@MartHugh,
Do you not find the 3" pitch a bit slow on 3S?
I dont find it any slower than the 5040 I was previously using... faster in fact.
The Hornet is still my favourite wing, everything's easy about it and it takes a real beating. https://youtu.be/g1PjRnq2pDI
I definitely need a bit more punch for mine. It flies really well but I'd like to fly it a lot faster lol
What would people recommend for 4s for my hornet.Which motor,prop esc.