You can now download the plans for the V4 and V5 k-quad from thingiverse.
V4: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:299143 (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:299143)
V5: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:397036 (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:397036)
I may have missed something but would a quad be better with 4 arms rather than two?
Heh, it has two arm pieces that make four arms. I did deliberate about the wording before posting, but essentially each arm piece is actually the left and the right arm, and there are two of them :) Hope that makes sense.
Nice work!
Hi Krikey,
Are you fully subscribed on the first 10 K-Quads yet? I don't have enough posts to PM you, but if they'e still available can you PM me please.
Regards
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
PM sent. Let me know if you don't get it and we'll sort something out.
Hah!
One more post and I should be able to send PM's I think
Andrew
Yippee! means you can PM now.
I'll take one, PM incoming :)
Pictures to come shortly of the K-Quad frames in Black, Orange and Fourescent Green.
Heres some piccys of recently finished printed K-Quad frames.
(http://s2.postimg.org/xw475yrqd/photo_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xw475yrqd/)
(http://s2.postimg.org/rkyzpjqhx/photo_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rkyzpjqhx/)
(http://s2.postimg.org/xkmqt7bad/photo_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xkmqt7bad/)
(http://s2.postimg.org/wkwfxhw4l/photo_4.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wkwfxhw4l/)
That black and green one looks brilliant!
Steve, line my palm with silver/gold to the sum of £17 and you can have one ;)
Still got some of the £17 deals available which are the kits without the nuts and bolts if anyone is still interested.
I thought a few pics of my finished one might help (although I've technically built mine upside down)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7384/11485191776_a7b3670d77_c.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3778/11485198383_5b3e7ab7c4_c.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/11808494875_9e56b65bdf_c.jpg)
As the official test pilot (:)) I'm exempting myself from claiming another frame for free - but looking forward to see what other people do with their builds.
Quote "I've finished the print run and should be despatching the K-Quad tomorrow.......in time for the weekend.":P :)
Yippee! Time to build a mini quad, 'leccy bits here ready, got batteries, esc's, motors, props (green, obviously) & KK2.0 board. Just need to sort out where the esc's are going and do something to common all the power together (maybe find some veroboard @ work?)
Andrew
Keep me posted on the build Andrew as I'd like to know how you get on.
OK, I'll try and post some pics and stuff, as long as I don't have to document it like being at work LOL! (I spend my days doing exploded diagrams and drawings and messing with bits for seismometers)
Work: www.guralp.com (http://www.guralp.com)
Any preshipping pics? I noticed someone else thought the black / green combination looked good!
Andrew
Hey Guys,
First batch printed and posted today so you should receive them tomorrow or by the latest Saturday. Please let me know how you get on with the build. Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
Quote from: Bowerz on January 09, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
Really interested in this. Anybody got a parts source for the props from hobby king?
Hobbyking don't have a great range of small props that seem to fit, however there are these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11314__5X3_Propellers_5Pcs_Bag_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11314__5X3_Propellers_5Pcs_Bag_.html) but the reviews on the site aren't great.
Black and green K-Quad arrived this morning!....
Thanks Neil
Me tooo.....
Did they arrive safely and does it all make sense?
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on January 10, 2014, 02:06:29 PM
Black and green K-Quad arrived this morning!....
Thanks Neil
Sit the frame under a light or in a bright area for a while and then take it into a dark room. You'll notice the green glows :)
Mine is still in the box.
Will be at least a month before I get to put it together. Have to get some cash for motors first!
Rob
Quote from: rob.thomson on January 10, 2014, 02:21:54 PM
Mine is still in the box.
Will be at least a month before I get to put it together. Have to get some cash for motors first!
Rob
Take a look at my kit-list on the initial post as I'll keep updating that and there are some links to some motors amongst other things.
Brilliant. Thank you :)
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Haha! You're right, the fluoro green is quite bright in darkness! :)
Arrived safely, just fell together!
Which end do you consider to be the front? The long end or the short end?
Also are you sure you used 40mm screws to hold it together? I found some 45mm ones and they're only just long enough with nylocs.
I couldn't tell from your previous pics how you dealt with printing the floor of the flight controller tray, now I know, so my next question is what should I glue it with? Is there an easily available solvent.
Regards
Andrew
Just had a google and acetone or MEK appear to be solvents for ABS.....
Andrew
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on January 10, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Haha! You're right, the fluoro green is quite bright in darkness! :)
Arrived safely, just fell together!
Which end do you consider to be the front? The long end or the short end?
Also are you sure you used 40mm screws to hold it together? I found some 45mm ones and they're only just long enough with nylocs.
I couldn't tell from your previous pics how you dealt with printing the floor of the flight controller tray, now I know, so my next question is what should I glue it with? Is there an easily available solvent.
Regards
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
There is no "front" or "back" really as this is up to you and which of the camera or VTX (as these will almost definitely be at either end. If your VTx is longer then perhaps put that on the longer end.
Yes 45mm or even 50mm M4 bolts might be better. I'll update the description. I added these before I made up the legs.
I used good old ca (superglue) for the KK2 base and it seems to hold together nicely.
pm sent :)
Thanks ADY.G.
Here's my white K-Quad, fully kitted out now and flown its maiden. It has the equipment listed on the first post, plus an immersionRC 600mA VTx, one of Bignose13s 5.8gHz antennas and an 808 #16 D type keychain camera which doubles as an FPV camera and a flight recorder. LoS footage to come when I receive my GoPro headmount.
(http://s16.postimg.org/nc8djjght/IMG_1549.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/nc8djjght/)
I'm annoyed that the weather has been so bad recently but CurryKitten has done some flights now on his and has some video in his thread http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,17287.0.html. (http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,17287.0.html.)
I'll get some footage up within the next few days.
I'm keen to hear from anyone who's built their K-Quad and if it all went well or if there were any issues that you encountered along the way with the frame or with the mounting or positioning of kit. Drop me a PM or by all means post here with any positive or negative feedback.
Your feedback is really useful and appreciated and it helps me to develop the frame to make it better.
Black and Orange one here for a client:
(http://s23.postimg.org/yuh46o1jb/IMG_1555.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yuh46o1jb/)
Here's some recent footage taken a couple of days ago of the K-Quad in action:
K-Quad flight testing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v51q2mqaTJA#ws)
And now a frame build video:
http://youtu.be/HGZQ8a95QZo (http://youtu.be/HGZQ8a95QZo)
...and an FPV video.
http://youtu.be/mSEXv-5jzPk (http://youtu.be/mSEXv-5jzPk)
Hallo Neil
With reference buying your K-Quad!Could you please sent me your paypal account address per pm.
Many Thanks
J.Carter
Hey robinhood. PMed. Let me know if you dont get it.
Hi Krikey
Green is ok,but without the recess for the kk2 board.
Money sent.
Many Thanks
J.Carter
Hi all,
It flys! :) Just had a (very) brief hover in the bedroom, gains are a bit high and a couple of props need balancing but nothing fell off! Spent this evening making a custom set of very short Rx~KK leads, tomorrow at work I'll probably drill a hole in the top plate just aft of the KK board recess for the ESC wires.
I kind of hoped to have this thing flying last weekend but I ended up spending four days in bed with 'flu. As I'm a slow builder anyway that hasn't helped progress.
Things to do: Drill hole for Rx Antenna tube, fit VTX, camera (s), terminate the white wire to the +V monitor pad on the KK board and put a JST XH (balance plug) on the black & red pair to plug into the FatShark filter board.
Regards
Andrew
Fantasic CAndrewGreen,
I would be careful drilling as its not solid plastic all the way through, rather a diamond mesh inside so you might end up with a coarse hole.
Looks like we've got our first free frame going out. Two more to go! What colours would you like CAndrewGreen?
Hi Neil,
A quick question, before printing me another one, is it an easy fix to tweak the hole centres and bosses for the KK board inwards by 2mm to 44 x 44? This would save people having to file their boards.
Another KK type flourescent green / black mix would be good! Say black base and one arm and leg, flourescent green top deck and one arm and leg.
Only other thing I'd suggest is to stick a bit more parcel tape round the edges of the box when shipping as due to the way the great british postal service handles them mine arrived partialy torn open, like it might have got caught on something.....and then bits might fall out.
Regards
Andrew
Now to some pics, I found some little pvc thingys to push on the end of the UC which raise it just that little bit, up off the 3S 1000mAh LiPo.
I drilled a couple of holes for the antenna tube and esc wires. I went slow using the drill press at work and it drilled like any other solid plastic, being analy retentive I then de-pinned the esc plugs, passed them through and re-pinned them for neatness! I even used a matching green antenna tube.
Andrew
Hi CAndrewGreen, your k quad looks amazing! - great build......
What length screws did you end up using, and where did you manage to find the rubber feet? - my k quad should be with me next week, and I may have to steal, copy some of your ideas....... ;)
Thanks.
Hi,
Yours should come complete with screws, mine is one of the first few, I used M4 x 45's I also found I needed to add an M4 nylon washer between the undercart and the arms for a good fit.
What controller are you going to fit?
You're welcome to use my ideas.... if you want better pics of any of it let me know, it turned out quite neat eventually, I've spent most of the morning trying to decide whether to fit a fixed fpv camera or a pan and tilt like on my big quad.
Andrew
Nearly forgot... the feet are protective caps from two part rubber potting compound packs that are thrown away at work, if you want some I think I've got some on my desk that you can have.....
Looking rather lovely Andrew. Those pictures really make the green glow.
What a super-neat build Andrew, very nice. As the 1st person on a 3s, what motors are you using, and how long are you getting out of your 1000mah lipo.
Thanks for the compliment, I took my time thinking about the installation...I hate having random wires poking out all over the place. I spent an evening crimping up the Rx to KK wires so they laid nicely.
Bear in mind I've had 'flu for a week so I haven't done much flying other than a brief hop the other evening and 4 or 5 minutes in the living room today (family out).
The motors are Turnigy 1811 2000 kV the silver version of the ones you'e using in 2000 kV form. I probably need 2 blade props really, as the motors seemed to get quite warm. I'm only using 3S 1000mAh LiPos as I already use them in my TRex 250's so I thought I'd give it a try.
I'll get a chance to give a proper trimming session on Monday evening at our indoor heli club in Reading.
Andrew
Those silver 1811s are rated for 7v 2s so they may indeed get a bit hot :)
I will be using a kk2.1, any close up photos would be appreciated....
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Quote from: krikey on January 25, 2014, 10:35:27 PM
Those silver 1811s are rated for 7v 2s so they may indeed get a bit hot :)
Yeah, I know but they were cheap! and brushless motors don't have a voltage rating as such the spec says max efficiency is @ 5.5A so they should meltdown at about the same time as the 6A esc's lol. (Which are also allegedly for 7.4V!)
I don't particularly like the weedy 2mm shafts or the mounting method, I'm liking the look of http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39033__Turnigy_Multistar_1704_1900Kv_12Pole_Multi_Rotor_Outrunner.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39033__Turnigy_Multistar_1704_1900Kv_12Pole_Multi_Rotor_Outrunner.html) but they're global warehouse only and always out of stock >:(
Andrew
Quote from: alreadytaken on January 25, 2014, 11:10:12 PM
I will be using a kk2.1, any close up photos would be appreciated....
Here's one looking straight down on the KK2:
You'll probably find that you need to file the holes in your KK board outwards about a mm or so to fit the mounting holes if you intend to use (nylon) screws to fix it. I carefully tapped the holes in the mounting plate M3. I then screwed the KK board to the plate before (carefully) superglueing the plate in place to make sure that the plate went in centrally. Ignore all this if you'e going to use velcro or double sided tape to fix your KK board.
Andrew
I was just about to build a 250mm type quad, but for £20 why bother. My question is. How durable is the 'printed plastic'? OK I know spares are available, but has anyone had a 'heavy landing', and done damage?
Today, being crap weather I finally got around putting some appropriate connectors on the cheapo HK wattmeter that I bought ages ago.
A brief hover recorded a max current of 9~10A, while holding it overhead @WOT only showed 10.7A so dividing that between 4 motors would suggest that I'm on the safe side of meltdown!
It hovers somewhat over 1/2 throttle so maybe the motors aren't quite high enough Kv or it needs a bit more prop? If it proves to have enough voom then I'll just tweak the throttle curve to push the hover position down a bit.
Andrew
I just got some extension tubes for my dslr so I've been practising my close up photography:
One pic shows how I filed the holes out on the KK board to get the screwholes to line up (it looks excessive but some of that is parallax).
The other is my custom crimped short Rx-KK loom.
Quote from: Flypoppa on January 26, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
I was just about to build a 250mm type quad, but for £20 why bother. My question is. How durable is the 'printed plastic'? OK I know spares are available, but has anyone had a 'heavy landing', and done damage?
I managed to break the legs on mine, but I had to smack it into a branch, and then thump it on the ground pretty hard.... twice. I'd kind of expect something to break in most 'traditional' frames after that
FPV Crashing: If at first you don't succeed, try and smash it on the 2nd go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-dxZxRWZBc#ws)
I'm working on some different arms now (after a 3D print of a few Minecraft pigs for my Son and Daughter).
(http://gyazo.com/78b5d44b123fae443b1a146c59249783.png)
These arms will be thicker so probably stronger, but definitely heavier so keep an eney on this thread for more information on this. The downside might be that if the arms are too strong, something else will break that perhaps is harder or more expensive to fix.
CurryKittens arms actually break in all the right places and leave the core intact or the motor intact which I assure you wasn't by design but more by happy accident so I'll not be eliminating V2 arms as there may be a requirement for some people to go for lighter weight.
There are currently 2 designs of the K-Quad which differ in only one way and that is the hole spacing for the bolts. V1 holes were closer together width wise and V2 was modded to have more width between the bolts.
Another aspect I'd like to consider is holding the battery in different locations on the frame... well either above or below the base plate. This might be achieved by using longer bolts and longer spacers and perhaps a "mezanine" floor in between the base plate and the top plate.
On another note, I'm also considering how to 3D print a modular arm rather than a single piece arm, which will be longer than the current K-Quad design as I'd like to see if its possible to create a 350 frame and then see how bendy it is.
I don't know what others think, I quite like the look of them, nice low pofile, barring the fact that they're only in the global warehouse and they're back ordered. They would also only suit 3S operation. If someone has got some / gets some I'd be interested to know what size the internal shaft is......
Andrew
Quote from: Bowerz on January 26, 2014, 08:42:59 PM
Do these motors look suitable??
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39033__Turnigy_Multistar_1704_1900Kv_12Pole_Multi_Rotor_Outrunner.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39033__Turnigy_Multistar_1704_1900Kv_12Pole_Multi_Rotor_Outrunner.html)
They look like they should fit the slots for the motor mounts, yes.
Well HK say that those motors will run with 2-3s lipos.
Well I can't speak with any real authority as my total K-Quad time is about 6 or 7 minutes so far, but going by the component spec for the HK 235mm integrated pcb Quad I'd say no. HK supply / recomend 2900Kv motors for 2S with 2 bladed 5 x3 props.....
Hopefully CurryKitten will chime in with an opinion as he went for 3800Kv motors I think.
Andrew
Edit:
It probably would work with bigger props say 7" or 8" but that <might> lol, be a problem.
Well I'm no expert on motors at all, and it's a mixture of guesswork, and consulting shoutbox when I choose. What I found that on original Turnigy mini quad frame the 2900kv motors were fine as it was very lightweight, but once I built a mini H quad (which was heavier), these motors needed around 60% throttle to hover. I went for the 3800kv motors on 2s on the K as I thought they'd give that little bit more oomph. The K-quad is slightly heavier than my H quad, and it hovers nicely at the 50% mark.
So I don't see the 1900kv motor on a 2s doing that well... unless it would take a bigger pitch prop to help it out. a 5x5 for example, or as Andrew says a bigger prop - 6030 perhaps (if they fit the frame). Otherwise, I think these will need to run on a 3s - even then in theory this won't get as much rpm as a 3800 on 2s, but I don't know if the sums are quite as simple as that.
Haha!
Flew a few battteries through it tonight at (indoor) heli club, now that's more fun! Really nimble and snappy for buzzing round the corners of the room and generally flying like a hooligan......
Couldn't be bothered with any tuning as it seems to fly with the defaults from the KK2 setup video on YouTube that deals with the HK integrated pcb mini quad and I was having plenty of fun.
Took a few pics while my brother flew it..... He shot some video on his phone too, I'll probably get that off him at work tomorrow and stick it up on YouTube later.
Realistically it probably needs higher Kv motors (I wish I had read Waynes post properly when I first ordered it doh!) As there's not much power above hover....
Andrew
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on January 25, 2014, 12:05:18 AM
Hi Neil,
A quick question, before printing me another one, is it an easy fix to tweak the hole centres and bosses for the KK board inwards by 2mm to 44 x 44? This would save people having to file their boards.
Another KK type flourescent green / black mix would be good! Say black base and one arm and leg, flourescent green top deck and one arm and leg.
Only other thing I'd suggest is to stick a bit more parcel tape round the edges of the box when shipping as due to the way the great british postal service handles them mine arrived partialy torn open, like it might have got caught on something.....and then bits might fall out.
Regards
Andrew
Thanks for the update. I'll wrap them a bit better next time. I'll adjust the hole centres for any new orders too and get yo out your free K-Quad within the next week or so. Orders are ramping up now, perhaps I need a second 3D printer :)
Those multistar motors have just come back into stock at Hobbyking......
Despite hearing one bad story about them from a member here, I have risked ordering the rcx 1804 2400 kV motors for mine, as many people seem to rave about them... I will report back with my findings when built.......
These are the motors that I have ordered for my K-quad for when it arrives. Also 10amp ESCs programmed with simon K, and a selection of 2 & 3 blade props from same dealer.
http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html)
Flypoppa, they are exactly what I have ordered....
sitting in customs as we speak...... :o
Alreadytaken: Your 3 x K-Quads are done and will be posted today first class recorded :)
*sits next to letterbox* :D
Waiting for conformation of my order. (Hint) :stupid: :blush:
Here we go, just a quick unedited phone video from last night:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0j6jod8mj0ktbj/Andrews%20K%20Quad%20at%20heli%20club%2027-01-14.mp4 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0j6jod8mj0ktbj/Andrews%20K%20Quad%20at%20heli%20club%2027-01-14.mp4)
Next step fpv gear......
Andrew
krikey will you perchance be making any in purple? :D
my fav colour ;)
dizzy :D
Hi
I am also waiting for conformation of my order,just a quick pm would do.
Many Thanks
john
I'm being a bit rubbish with my confirmations. sorry guys.
Robinhood, yours is printing now and will be completed today and I'll get it in the post before the end of the week.
Flypoppa, PMed you (as you know :) )
Hey Guys,
Had a power failure on mine which caused a flip and killed one motor.
Luckily i allready ordered some different motors to try:
Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 2122-2100kv
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=36817 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=36817)
HQ Props 5x3
Battery 1500 mah 3s
She hovers at 40% throttle with the 1500 mah 3s battery
Just out of curiosity i installed a 3700 mah 3s battery and she hovers at 50%.
I'll probably be running a 2200 mah 3s for most of the time.
might try a 2s battery later on 6x3 props.
Paul
Can you PM me? I want to get a frame. :)
I'm new to this site, how do I send a pm? :o
Quote from: Jeffwhu on January 29, 2014, 07:56:06 PM
I'm new to this site, how do I send a pm? :o
you need 10 posts before you can write PMs.
Ask krikey if he sends you his email adress
Quote from: Jeffwhu on January 29, 2014, 07:56:06 PM
I'm new to this site, how do I send a pm? :o
I was thinking the same thing...
Quote from: Pauluk on January 29, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Hey Guys,
Had a power failure on mine which caused a flip and killed one motor.
Luckily i allready ordered some different motors to try:
Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 2122-2100kv
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=36817 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=36817)
HQ Props 5x3
Battery 1500 mah 3s
She hovers at 40% throttle with the 1500 mah 3s battery
Just out of curiosity i installed a 3700 mah 3s battery and she hovers at 50%.
I'll probably be running a 2200 mah 3s for most of the time.
might try a 2s battery later on 6x3 props.
Paul
Hey Paul,
Any idea what sort of current you're pulling? I'm seeing a max of 11.8A (3S 1000mAh) in free flight and it doesn't have a lot of snap vertically with the little 1811/2000Kv motors, I'm suspicious that the weedy thin wire is the limiting factor......? Like the orange and black colour scheme by the way...
Andrew
Hey Neil /Krikey,
I hope you've got lots of ABS for your printer! Looks like it's taking off....
Andrew
So far so good. Thanks to all you early adopters who took a punt. Its really helped out and I hope its giving you loads of fun. If you have any suggestions then please feel free to add them here too.
Thanks for advice on pm's.
Krikey...."could you please send me your email address because I'm interested in buying one of your frames.
Cheers
Quote from: robinhood66 on January 29, 2014, 09:31:51 AM
Hi
I am also waiting for conformation of my order,just a quick pm would do.
Many Thanks
john
Hi John,
Your K-Quad has been printed and packed ready for despatch tomorrow.
Hope you like it.
Neil
Quote from: Dizzy on January 29, 2014, 01:56:45 AM
krikey will you perchance be making any in purple? :D
my fav colour ;)
dizzy :D
The supplier of the filament does these colours in ABS:
Yellow
Green
Red
Blue
Brown (you like landing in mud?)
Gold (blingy)
Black
White
Grey
Orange
so if these colours tickle your fancy then let me know.
Quote from: GhostMaster on January 29, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
Can you PM me? I want to get a frame. :)
PMed GhostMaster :)
Quote from: Jeffwhu on January 29, 2014, 09:07:54 PM
Thanks for advice on pm's.
Krikey...."could you please send me your email address because I'm interested in buying one of your frames.
Cheers
PMed Jeffwhu
Quote from: krikey on January 29, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: GhostMaster on January 29, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
Can you PM me? I want to get a frame. :)
PMed GhostMaster :)
Thanks, yes i can wait one week, no problem.
Can i mount a NAZA Lite on this guy? Its the only controller i have spare now. :P
What motors you recommend? Do the RCX 1804 2400KV Work nice on this frame?
Thanks
Ordered one. ;D
Are the 3 free frames offered? :P
There are currently 2 free frames available so if you get a K-Quad fully built (motors and all) and post some piccies up on here and optionally a flight video, I can send out one free frame per winner.
My K-quad (and 2 for friends) have just arrived.... wow - the quality of printing is amazing......
Buy with confidence!
Just waiting for the rest of the components to arrive, and will update with some photo's......
Glad they arrived safely :)
Mine arrived in good order and is lovely and very orange!
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on January 29, 2014, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Pauluk on January 29, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Hey Guys,
Had a power failure on mine which caused a flip and killed one motor.
Luckily i allready ordered some different motors to try:
Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 2122-2100kv
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=36817 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=36817)
HQ Props 5x3
Battery 1500 mah 3s
She hovers at 40% throttle with the 1500 mah 3s battery
Just out of curiosity i installed a 3700 mah 3s battery and she hovers at 50%.
I'll probably be running a 2200 mah 3s for most of the time.
might try a 2s battery later on 6x3 props.
Paul
Hey Paul,
Any idea what sort of current you're pulling? I'm seeing a max of 11.8A (3S 1000mAh) in free flight and it doesn't have a lot of snap vertically with the little 1811/2000Kv motors, I'm suspicious that the weedy thin wire is the limiting factor......? Like the orange and black colour scheme by the way...
Andrew
Hey Andrew,
I would guess its near the 7amp motor limit,not 100% sure though.
Ive been modding mine and she flies so much better with the battery ontop.
I cut the top tray in half and cable tied a small piece of plywood across the two sections,
then put some velcro on the plywood.
So much smoother than before on the same settings.
This also allows any size battery you want to use,within reason :D
Heres a couple of pictures one with and one without battery.
Ive also cut and drilled another shelf to go underneath and hide all the wires,havent installed it yet though.
Hey Neil,
I assume PaulUK qualifies for a free frame set? As he's posted finished pics and a flight report......
Paul,
Interesting idea, you do see pics of a lot of the bigger hexa's with 2 or more batteries on the top deck, kinda defies logic where you'd think top heavy would be bad. Are those motors you've used available with pong shafts? So you could use a prop driver..... Maybe have to peruse HK's motor range later.... Are you going to FPV your K-Quad? Or fly it LOS?
Yesterday lunchtime I machined myself a camera mount from a scrap bit of acetal that's been sitting on my desk waiting for just such a use. VTX fitted on the back with velcro and a safety strap, next is to shorten the camera cable and find somewhere neat to stick the input filter board and do the power cables.
Andrew
Yep you're right. PaulUk. Send me the details for your free K-Quad frame and I'll get it underway.
Only one free K-Quad to go :)
Quote from: krikey on January 30, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
Yep you're right. PaulUk. Send me the details for your free K-Quad frame and I'll get it underway.
Only one free K-Quad to go :)
Thanks,
wasnt expecting that ;D
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on January 30, 2014, 09:41:45 PM
Hey Neil,
I assume PaulUK qualifies for a free frame set? As he's posted finished pics and a flight report......
Paul,
Interesting idea, you do see pics of a lot of the bigger hexa's with 2 or more batteries on the top deck, kinda defies logic where you'd think top heavy would be bad. Are those motors you've used available with pong shafts? So you could use a prop driver..... Maybe have to peruse HK's motor range later.... Are you going to FPV your K-Quad? Or fly it LOS?
Yesterday lunchtime I machined myself a camera mount from a scrap bit of acetal that's been sitting on my desk waiting for just such a use. VTX fitted on the back with velcro and a safety strap, next is to shorten the camera cable and find somewhere neat to stick the input filter board and do the power cables.
Andrew
That camera mount looks pretty neat.
I will be using it for FPV eventually,next im going to strap the mobius to it and try and get some vibration free footage,using some sorbothane underneath it should do the trick.
The motors im using are great apart from theres only one way to secure the props with the old style adapters,
they seem to work pretty good though.
For anyone struggling to work out how to put one together, here's an exploded diagram that might help. It also shows all the parts you get in the kit.
(http://s17.postimg.org/8r0f75cvv/quad_set.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8r0f75cvv/)
Quote from: krikey on January 31, 2014, 12:25:31 AM
For anyone struggling to work out how to put one together, here's an exploded diagram that might help. It also shows all the parts you get in the kit.
(http://s17.postimg.org/8r0f75cvv/quad_set.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8r0f75cvv/)
Thats a great way of showing how to assemble the frame.
Cant wait for the weather to get better going to do a lot of flying with this frame.
What kind of range are you guys getting with the 600 mw video tx,just curious?.
I have a 250mw on another rig which gives a good signal at 500 metres,
havent taken it further as im only using a cheap orange reciever on that one.
In theory 600mW will get you up to 4km with the correct antennas as some people have proved. Bignose13 on this forum does some great antennas for 5.8ghz, 2.4ghz etc, however I would suspect that your quad won't get that far before running out of juice first :)
Quad arrived to day nice bit of kit thank you
Glad it arrived safely dakarsg.
Gold and Yellow ABS options now available for the components. I'll print some up and we'll see what they look like.
Quote from: krikey on January 31, 2014, 07:06:06 PM
Gold and Yellow ABS options now available for the components. I'll print some up and we'll see what they look like.
dizzy wait's for the blink with interest :D
a proper lady bird ;)
dizzy :)
Maybe I need red too?
Our club chairman want's me to build him one!
I'm thinking red, white & blue would look good, can you get a pigmented (rather then natural) white? I'll drop you a PM when he's decided for certain....
Regards
Andrew
PS Krikey, I've kind of lost track now the thread runs 8 pages, how many have you sold now?
Cant do red or blue at the moment :)
I've made around 20 sets so far.
Hi Krikey
Tried to PM you, but just getting fail.(for few post's for PM's)
Do you ship to norway? If yes, how much?
I really want one of these, if the price is OK.
Have you long delay on printing?
Please send me your e-mail on PM.
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Motors and speed controllers have turned up - the motors are tiny!!
Great service from www.myrcmart.com (http://www.myrcmart.com)
I will report back once they are soldered up...... why do I have to work today :-[
Looking forward to receive my own K-quad, mayby the first in Norway!
Is there anyone that have A good setup for 3s on the K-quad?
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Hi Krikey,
I would like to order one of your frames in a color good to view for my old man eyes.
Could you please pm me your e-mail?
Thank you in advance,
Walter
Quote from: WalterH on February 01, 2014, 10:48:26 PM
Hi Krikey,
I would like to order one of your frames in a color good to view for my old man eyes.
Could you please pm me your e-mail?
Thank you in advance,
Walter
PMed :)
Hey krikey,
Found this thread from someone on facebook who pointed me in your direction.
I would love to buy one of your quads for my son (dont trust him with mine swinging 10" props lol )
not botherd with what colours as long as it looks kool lol plus 2 spare sets of arms and with the kk2.0 deck.
if you could pm me cost and paypal addy posted within uk. Many thanks
I have also given a mention and link for this frame on Facebook. Well yer got to as it's a fair deal.
Quote from: mightybubble on February 02, 2014, 02:41:47 AM
Hey krikey,
Found this thread from someone on facebook who pointed me in your direction.
I would love to buy one of your quads for my son (dont trust him with mine swinging 10" props lol )
not botherd with what colours as long as it looks kool lol plus 2 spare sets of arms and with the kk2.0 deck.
if you could pm me cost and paypal addy posted within uk. Many thanks
Hi mightybubble,
PMed :)
Quote from: Flypoppa on February 02, 2014, 10:38:40 AM
I have also given a mention and link for this frame on Facebook. Well yer got to as it's a fair deal.
Cheers Flypoppa,
The plan was to make a cost effective/cheap frame (and to help justify the cost of the 3D printer to my wife ;) )
Thanks for the pm. Tried pm'n back but not allowed yet :smashpc: lol. Is that payment ment to be gifted?
Thanks again
hey, so how do I buy from you :D
payment sent buddy :thumbsup:
Hello krikey,
I would like a frame but cant seem to pm yet ;D.
Do you also ship to Holland ?
Cheers Schiksie
Quote from: mightybubble on February 02, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
payment sent buddy :thumbsup:
PMed mightybubble. Ive made a booboo!!!!!!!
Sorted it bud payment now sent to correct addy I hope lol
Hey Krikey, definitely need me one of these frames. going snowboarding in march and would hate to miss the chance for some FPV and filming if the weather is nice, measured my old camera backpack and this little beaut would fit perfectly with space for tx, goggles and lipos!
please could you PM with the details (not sure I reached the quota for sending them yet)
would love a black frame with the standard non-kk2 top plate with a red front arm section.
cheers
This is a build ive been doing for a couple of days now on krikeys frame (good frame to work on by the way)
just waiting on some esc.
and some spironet antennas.
going to try the immersion 600mw tx and frsky rx
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/kkquadarchososd027_zpsa66f85f4.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/kkquadarchososd027_zpsa66f85f4.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad012_zps2c1c8c29.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad012_zps2c1c8c29.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad014_zps0c05c790.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad014_zps0c05c790.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad015_zps720847ee.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad015_zps720847ee.jpg.html)
should weigh in at under 500grams with esc and Mobius fitted.
ill fit a plastic housing for the fpv camera from security 2000 which should shed more weight.
Quote from: ezroller on February 03, 2014, 12:19:59 PM
Hey Krikey, definitely need me one of these frames. going snowboarding in march and would hate to miss the chance for some FPV and filming if the weather is nice, measured my old camera backpack and this little beaut would fit perfectly with space for tx, goggles and lipos!
please could you PM with the details (not sure I reached the quota for sending them yet)
would love a black frame with the standard non-kk2 top plate with a red front arm section.
cheers
PMed :)
What would be a good alternative motor to run on 3s?
What motors you running ADY.G? Are they any good and what props are you using?
Thanks in advance
mightybubble
Did you recieve my payment Krikey?
iam trying the rcx 2400 kv from myrcmart
and the rcx 10amp simonk esc same place
ill be using 5" props gemfans.
Quote from: ADY.G. on February 03, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
This is a build ive been doing for a couple of days now on krikeys frame (good frame to work on by the way)
just waiting on some esc.
and some spironet antennas.
going to try the immersion 600mw tx and frsky rx
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/kkquadarchososd027_zpsa66f85f4.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/kkquadarchososd027_zpsa66f85f4.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad012_zps2c1c8c29.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad012_zps2c1c8c29.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad014_zps0c05c790.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad014_zps0c05c790.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad015_zps720847ee.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad015_zps720847ee.jpg.html)
should weigh in at under 500grams with esc and Mobius fitted.
ill fit a plastic housing for the fpv camera from security 2000 which should shed more weight.
Good idea Ady reversing the KK2 top plate Are you putting the ESCs below the bottom plate?
Quote from: mightybubble on February 03, 2014, 03:53:41 PM
Did you recieve my payment Krikey?
Yes, thank you! confirmed :)
I might be able to get the esc under the kk2 plate as its just got about a
5mm gap as I spaced it off the bottom plate but will see when they arrive.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad1001_zpsb12a8317.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad1001_zpsb12a8317.jpg.html)
Hi Krikey, just posting here to see if you got my payment and email (tom clayton) as my work emails often end up in peoples junk folder!
also to get my post count up!
Took her out today winds 30 mph, gusts upto 60+
She was like a balloon bobin around in the sky,good fun though.
This is a good example of when not to fly your k-quad or any quad at all lol:
Extreme weather flying (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO-Ikz1HHc0#ws)
She flies very stable indoors,just need some decent weather to
get some quality footage ;D
That does fly well. I couldn't quite make out who's underwear you were waving at the start of the video. Yours?
Quote from: electricmick on February 03, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
That does fly well. I couldn't quite make out who's underwear you were waving at the start of the video. Yours?
Yes mine,i'll have to wash them one day ;D
ADY G, I have the same motors as you, but the holes on the arms don't appear to line up with the motor holes?
Hole spacing on the motors is only 12.4mm
Did you have to increase the size of the slots on the arms to make them fit? Was there enough material left on the arm between the slot and the centre hole?
Cheers...
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Hey Krikey, have you seen this?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/new-3d-printer-by-markforged-can-print-with-carbon-fiber-16428727?click=pm_latest (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/new-3d-printer-by-markforged-can-print-with-carbon-fiber-16428727?click=pm_latest)
yes I just opened the slots out by a mil or so
still enough material just.
if you find your close you could just put a micro washer on.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad2002_zps207cdc0f.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad2002_zps207cdc0f.jpg.html)
Quote from: ezroller on February 03, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
Hi Krikey, just posting here to see if you got my payment and email (tom clayton) as my work emails often end up in peoples junk folder!
also to get my post count up!
Received fine thank you and your order is in the queue :)
Quote from: Flypoppa on February 03, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
Hey Krikey, have you seen this?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/new-3d-printer-by-markforged-can-print-with-carbon-fiber-16428727?click=pm_latest (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/new-3d-printer-by-markforged-can-print-with-carbon-fiber-16428727?click=pm_latest)
Yes I did see that. It looks amazing and isn't too bad at $5000 I suppose.
Frame arrived a short while ago, as did the motors, ESCs, and props. Stuck now for barrel connectors.
I ordered some from Deal extreme, but I expect that they are caught up in the new year holiday. So being impatient I have just ordered some from UK HK.
I can see the problem with the motors and the slots on the arms. I will have to extend the slots and also countersink, as the screws supplied with the motors are too short.
The other option is to make a ply or plastic base for the motors and then attach to the arms. Got to think on this.
Could someone please measure the motor mount holes pkease so I can decide on some motors?
Qav250's fx2206 2000 sold out and the 1806 2400's sold out :(
Thinking about these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=29483 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=29483)
?
Quote from: mightybubble on February 04, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Could someone please measure the motor mount holes pkease so I can decide on some motors?
Qav250's fx2206 2000 sold out and the 1806 2400's sold out :(
Thinking about these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=29483 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=29483)
?
These fit:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=36817 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=36817)
you can only get 2 bolts in,which is good enough.
Hovers at 40% throttle on 3s running 5x3 props.
Quote from: mightybubble on February 04, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Could someone please measure the motor mount holes pkease so I can decide on some motors?
Qav250's fx2206 2000 sold out and the 1806 2400's sold out :(
Thinking about these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=29483 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=29483)
?
The mount holes themselves are 2mm x 4mm each, as they are elongated circles the diagonal for mount is between 12mm-21mm (outer edges of elongated circle). There is a central circle to allow some motors to recess in and this circle is 8mm diameter. Hope this helps.
I got a set of those ^ and I must be being a little dense but how exactly does the prop-saver doohickey work? The shaft doesn't protrude from the end of the motor casing at all so how is it supposed to hold a prop on?
Quote from: unharmed on February 04, 2014, 04:43:06 PM
I got a set of those ^ and I must be being a little dense but how exactly does the prop-saver doohickey work? The shaft doesn't protrude from the end of the motor casing at all so how is it supposed to hold a prop on?
What props you using,they should fit tight around the circle in the middle using reducers,my 5x3 HQ props have a 5mm bore hole,had to insert a reducer to make it smaller.
Also to make them easier to get on and off change the 10mm m2.5 screws for some 5mm m2.5,otherwise the rubber rings are a pain to get on.
Quote from: ADY.G. on February 03, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
This is a build ive been doing for a couple of days now on krikeys frame (good frame to work on by the way)
just waiting on some esc.
and some spironet antennas.
going to try the immersion 600mw tx and frsky rx
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/kkquadarchososd027_zpsa66f85f4.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/kkquadarchososd027_zpsa66f85f4.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad012_zps2c1c8c29.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad012_zps2c1c8c29.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad014_zps0c05c790.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad014_zps0c05c790.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/phantom/miniquad015_zps720847ee.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/MOTARD_01/media/phantom/miniquad015_zps720847ee.jpg.html)
should weigh in at under 500grams with esc and Mobius fitted.
ill fit a plastic housing for the fpv camera from security 2000 which should shed more weight.
Ady, As you've built your frame and placed all the components as well as modding it with another plate (cool BTW) you're eligible for the last free frame. What colours would you like?
A few people have asked if I would supply a RTF kit for these but I'm not sure how many people would buy an RTF kit if one existed?
Thanks very appreciated Krikey if possible could I have a orange frame please.
these are good motors as well
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39033__Turnigy_Multistar_1704_1900Kv_12Pole_Multi_Rotor_Outrunner.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39033__Turnigy_Multistar_1704_1900Kv_12Pole_Multi_Rotor_Outrunner.html)
sorry mate.
Thanks Pauluk for the suggestion. I was looking at both the 2100 and the ones I listed but wernt sure which would be best. Anyways placed my order now for the 2100kv and some redbrick 10amp esc's coz I havent had any problems with any of my rb's so far so should be ok. So now all I gotta do is wait on the frame.
Thanks Krikey /Neil,
Opposite black / green K-Quad arrived today as PM'd..... my brother is going to build this one up as a 3S KK2.1 FPV setup. Popped it together on the desk today for a pic......
Andrew
For anyone else using rcx motors, I would recommend using M2 x 6 bolts and washers and using a 2mm needle file to slightly elongate the slots.....
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/05/a2usaqag.jpg)
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To use the existing screws that came with the RCX motors, I had to file the slots and countersink to get the screws to fit.
Krikey. Would it be an idea to make the hole smaller and extend the slots. I believe that what ever motors are used, the hole could be smaller. Tell me if I am wrong.
Neil. I need a KK2 board. I have sent payment.
Quote from: Flypoppa on February 05, 2014, 11:01:29 AM
Neil. I need a KK2 board. I have sent payment.
Cheers Flypoppa,
Ill get one sorted and in the post for you by the weekend.
Quote from: Flypoppa on February 05, 2014, 09:58:08 AM
To use the existing screws that came with the RCX motors, I had to file the slots and countersink to get the screws to fit.
Krikey. Would it be an idea to make the hole smaller and extend the slots. I believe that what ever motors are used, the hole could be smaller. Tell me if I am wrong.
Hmm lets see what other feedback comes in. I'm happy to adapt it if it needs to be done. Let me know what motors you've tested and what diabeter centre hole you need and I'll do some tweaks.
Almost finished. Just waiting for a KK2 that my mate has spare.
I have extended the legs as I want to strap the battery underneath. Those extensions are temporary as I am making some better ones out of plastic and will screw to existing legs.
(http://s28.postimg.org/dts4bjoux/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dts4bjoux/)
(http://s28.postimg.org/4ym83wtqx/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4ym83wtqx/)
If anyone is interested in a Zippy Compact 1500 3s from the UK HobbyKing warehouse for the K Quad, I have a buddycode:
http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=896DC3E6-25DA-4B3F-9F08-97409562CA85 (http://www.hobbyking.com/buddy.asp?code=896DC3E6-25DA-4B3F-9F08-97409562CA85)
Down to $7.75 each!!
:D
Had some goodies turn up with the postie today
(http://s24.postimg.org/onpmy6cap/20140207_205232.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/onpmy6cap/)
Sk3 Aerodrive 2122-2100kv x5
Redbrick 10amp esc's
And 20 gws 5030 black props ccw - yep no cw props, bloody pic of them looked like it had both in there. Now I gotta order more. But there is just one other thing missing? Lol
What control board are you going to use mightybubble? Your frame is printing now, bottom plate and KK2 plate to go :)
Going to use the kk2.0. Got one here spare. I might get another multiwii pro too just to see how it handlea the small frame. Just got to find somewhere in uk with ccw 5x3 gws style?
These are the only gem fans that I could find in the UK..... http://bit.ly/1niorBz
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Quote from: alreadytaken on February 08, 2014, 09:56:04 AM
These are the only gem fans that I could find in the UK..... http://bit.ly/1niorBz (http://bit.ly/1niorBz)
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Hmm handy. I'll add that to the first post.
This guy sells them too:
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/flite-fpv?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/flite-fpv?_trksid=p2047675.l2563)
Thanks for the gold frame Krikey,it came yesterday.
Unfortunatly i had a bit of a disaster with 2 mystery esc's,which started smoking and damaged a motor,then after that i blew up another motor with a screw that was too long ;D
Awaiting new motors now.
Ouch. If its any consolation, I ruined a motor by getting the wires caught up in the prop, which ripped the little copper cables out of the base of the motor.
Nice one for the link to the props.
Krikey could you tell me what the gap is between bottom plate and bottom off the kk top plate? Trying to work out what standoffs I need to get a 3s in there, also whatd the width between standoffs?
Thanks
Remembered to weigh mine tonight, 413g ready to fly, fixed FatShark camera, no onboard recording, haven't really thought that through completely yet, might get a Mobius as a combination FPV camera and recorder.
Andrew
Quote from: mightybubble on February 08, 2014, 01:44:26 PM
Nice one for the link to the props.
Krikey could you tell me what the gap is between bottom plate and bottom off the kk top plate? Trying to work out what standoffs I need to get a 3s in there, also whatd the width between standoffs?
Thanks
The gap between the KK2 and the base plate is 10mm and the gap between the standoffs is 26mmx 90mm
Quote from: Flypoppa on February 05, 2014, 11:01:29 AM
Neil. I need a KK2 board. I have sent payment.
Printed and will be in the post on Monday :)
Quote from: krikey on February 09, 2014, 09:44:04 AM
Printed and will be in the post on Monday :)
Thanks M8. My M8 dropped off the KK2 board this morning.
Love the gold colour ;D
Awaiting motors now on the slow boat from china :(
Very blingy. I like the idea of adding the LEDs too. Might try that on mine.
I wonder what the smallest mission based controller might be? Could we see the K-Quad flying automated missions?
Multiwii miniwii could be an option? Not sure if the 2.3 supports waypoints tho,
I used M2 bolts and M2 Nyloc nuts with some loctite. readily available off Ebay. Not sure if motors typically come with mounting screws, I don't think the Turningy 1811s do.
Hi krikey, did you already shipped my order?
Thanks
Anyone using this motors: http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/motors/sunnysky-x2204-2300kv.html (http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/motors/sunnysky-x2204-2300kv.html)
SunnySky X2204 2300KV, they are pretty good, just waiting for mine to arrive and the frame itself...
They're possibly a bit on the heavy side, mine is flying on HK 1811/2000Kv motors (on 3 cells) which are only 10g each, however the 2300Kv is good as mine at 413g allup hovers at about 60~70 percent throttle and doesn't have much voom!
My brother is about to build a 3 cell K-Quad with 1811/2900 motors although I think I'm going to try some of the TMX 2400Kv motors that someone linked to a couple of pages back.
Andrew
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 11, 2014, 10:52:21 PM
They're possibly a bit on the heavy side, mine is flying on HK 1811/2000Kv motors (on 3 cells) which are only 10g each, however the 2300Kv is good as mine at 413g allup hovers at about 60~70 percent throttle and doesn't have much voom!
My brother is about to build a 3 cell K-Quad with 1811/2900 motors although I think I'm going to try some of the TMX 2400Kv motors that someone linked to a couple of pages back.
Andrew
Weight: 21g each.
Do you think it will be too much? And about the mounting holes, it fits?
Well a TRex 250 (smallish aerobatic collective pitch helicopter) is about 340g with battery. My K-Quad at 413g is already heavy enough before I add a Mobius or 808 camera, so another 44g? Hmmmm.... give it a try, small motors don't break the bank to try.
About the mounting holes, if the slots aren't right a little work with a file should sort it easily, the 1811's fit with no filing but another builder slotted theirs a bit to fit the TMX motors.
Andrew
Ive mounted mine with cable ties, worked with my 450 lol
(http://s30.postimg.org/o1mf1k0dp/20140211_233818.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/o1mf1k0dp/)
2am finish. Had a quick hop in the livingroom trying not to wake the family. Had to lower kk2.0 p gains down to 15 to stop shaking. Try and finish tuning this morning :D
(http://s27.postimg.org/k7il0yb4v/20140212_021928.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/k7il0yb4v/)
Quote from: GhostMaster on February 11, 2014, 10:27:59 PM
Hi krikey, did you already shipped my order?
Thanks
Emailed GhostMaster :)
Quote from: mightybubble on February 12, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
2am finish. Had a quick hop in the livingroom trying not to wake the family. Had to lower kk2.0 p gains down to 15 to stop shaking. Try and finish tuning this morning :D
(http://s27.postimg.org/k7il0yb4v/20140212_021928.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/k7il0yb4v/)
Looking Good mightybubble.
Quote from: mightybubble on February 12, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
2am finish. Had a quick hop in the livingroom trying not to wake the family. Had to lower kk2.0 p gains down to 15 to stop shaking. Try and finish tuning this morning :D
(http://s27.postimg.org/k7il0yb4v/20140212_021928.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/k7il0yb4v/)
Looking good,how come your gains are so low,what esc's are you using?
10amp redbricks not flashed on 1300 3s 30c.
This thing takes off at 30 percent throttle. Stick scaling on throttle now at 60. Almost got it dialed in. Im swapping the board later for a multiwii lite. Just trying to get this close for the lad thts having the kk2.0 off me for his k quad. Although he has 3800kv motors. Mine are 2100 on 5030 gemfans. Going to open up an esc to see if I can flash it with simonk.
Weighs 420grms without fpv gear.
Quote from: mightybubble on February 12, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
10amp redbricks not flashed on 1300 3s 30c.
This thing takes off at 30 percent throttle. Stick scaling on throttle now at 60. Almost got it dialed in. Im swapping the board later for a multiwii lite. Just trying to get this close for the lad thts having the kk2.0 off me for his k quad. Although he has 3800kv motors. Mine are 2100 on 5030 gemfans. Going to open up an esc to see if I can flash it with simonk.
Weighs 420grms without fpv gear.
Those motors are brilliant loads of power,the only thing i dont like is the rubber band prop saver.
I strapped a 3700 3s mah under mine and it hovered at 50%.
Quote from: mightybubble on February 12, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
10amp redbricks not flashed on 1300 3s 30c.
This thing takes off at 30 percent throttle. Stick scaling on throttle now at 60. Almost got it dialed in. Im swapping the board later for a multiwii lite. Just trying to get this close for the lad thts having the kk2.0 off me for his k quad. Although he has 3800kv motors. Mine are 2100 on 5030 gemfans. Going to open up an esc to see if I can flash it with simonk.
Weighs 420grms without fpv gear.
Hey Edward its Tom! looking forward to trying out a kk2, havent used one before.
got delivery confirmation of my k-quad earlier, cant wait :D
Im not up to speed on the small sizes of ESC's, is anyone using flashed ones?
Now fpv ready lol, like im gonna get a chance any time soon.
Total AUW is 470grams.
(http://s27.postimg.org/sybx12fa7/20140212_133515.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sybx12fa7/)
Thanks Krikey for a wicked little quad.
Hey Tom, have a look for some good simonK flashed esc's. Just a shame I didnt look to see if I could flash the tiny red bricks :(
had a search around and found this list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhR02IDNb7_MdEhfVjk3MkRHVzhKdjU1YzdBQkZZRlE#gid=0
seems the red bricks can be flashed but, like my mystery 12a, dont have flashing pads. as you probably already know that means either a flashing pad that lets you connect directly to the atmega or some careful soldering! I've only done an esc without pads once and it was a massive pain in the ass!
shame there werent any 12a afros in stock when i got my parts, I feel these small quads will benefit immensely from flashed esc's
All sorted and ready to test fly. I hope.the 'hatch' is a block of Bluecore to protect the electrics, and later it may house my FPV.
(http://s22.postimg.org/fnjm47m9p/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fnjm47m9p/)
Forgot to mention. AUW with a 1300 3s 395gm.
Quote from: Flypoppa on February 12, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Forgot to mention. AUW with a 1300 3s 395gm.
What make of lipo you using? Cam, vtx?
Yours is nearly 100grams lighter.
Jeez Neil, I turn my back for a minute and you have a thriving business going on this quad.
Well done! I'm proud of you!
heh. well it helps to pay for and validate the 3d printer to Debbie.
Krikey
Cheers Neil for the spare frame.
Quote from: ADY.G. on February 13, 2014, 05:14:28 PM
Cheers Neil for the spare frame.
Glad it arrived safely Ady.
take a look at the first post bowerz as its updated with some extra prop suppliers on ebay
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Got mine today, thanks krikey, i love the frame, its so simple and nice. ;D
Just waiting for motors and ESCs. :)
Quote from: GhostMaster on February 14, 2014, 02:51:45 AM
Got mine today, thanks krikey, i love the frame, its so simple and nice. ;D
Just waiting for motors and ESCs. :)
Glad it arrived safely
Quick note guys, please check the first post for stock availability of colours. I'm rattling through filament and due to the Chinese New year, there's a bit of a delay in getting more filament.
On mine, I have also noticed that the P gain on the KK2.1 needs to be quite low - about 35-40 to stop the high speed vibes.....
I am using a Zippy Compact 1500 3s, rcx 1804 2400kV motors with 10A SimonK flashed esc's and Genfan 2 blade 5 x 3 props....
I get an easy 9 minutes of flight with this setup - could possibly push that a bit further.......
just need to fit the Mobius and VTx now.....
If I put my p gains up that hign it just spasms. Managed to tune it down to 20 but still the odd twitch now an then.
Have noticed that my motors get really warm and my lipo is warm to the touch after just a couple of mins hovering in the front room.
Trying to find a way of flashing the 10amp redbricks with simonk but its not the normal atmega its a atmega8l, Very tiny chip.
Ordered some stuff, and i share my buddycodes, so you guys can order cheaper. :)
Find my codes here: http://hk.rc-international.info/swarm/ghostmaster (http://hk.rc-international.info/swarm/ghostmaster) (valid until 23 02, 2014)
ZIPPY Compact 1300mAh 3S 25C Lipo Pack (EU warehouse) (http://hk.rc-international.info/buddy/zippy-compact-1300mah-3s-25c-lipo-pack-341151) Save US$: 1.33
(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/21338t(3).jpg)
ZIPPY Compact 1000mAh 3S 35C Lipo Pack (EU warehouse) (http://hk.rc-international.info/buddy/zippy-compact-1000mah-3s-35c-lipo-pack-341150) Save US$: 1.73
(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/21389-thumb.jpg)
ZIPPY Compact 2200mAh 2S 25C Lipo Pack (EU warehouse) (http://hk.rc-international.info/buddy/zippy-compact-2200mah-2s-25c-lipo-pack-341149) Save US$: 2.66
(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/21345-thumb.jpg)
18-11 2000kv Micro Brushless Outrunner (10g) (EU warehouse) (http://hk.rc-international.info/buddy/18-11-2000kv-micro-brushless-outrunner-10g-341148) Save US$: 0.81
(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/1811-2000_t(2).jpg)
Male XT60 connectors (5pcs/bag) GENUINE (EU warehouse) (http://hk.rc-international.info/buddy/male-xt60-connectors-5pcs-bag-genuine-341147) Save US$: 0.29
(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/601ax5_t.jpg)
NONE MORE ORANGE!
(http://s12.postimg.org/kocy90dzt/Photo_15_02_2014_20_22_46.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kocy90dzt/)
Quote from: unharmed on February 15, 2014, 09:26:54 PM
NONE MORE ORANGE!
(http://s12.postimg.org/kocy90dzt/Photo_15_02_2014_20_22_46.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kocy90dzt/)
TANGO'd
Short test flight while adjusting p gains. Acro mode on kk2.0 is alot more manageable.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kcX3NoZaVDM&feature=c4-feed-u (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kcX3NoZaVDM&feature=c4-feed-u)
yes recording me flying the quad was more important than letting my 7yr old son go for a wee, Lol. so apologies for the poor camera work.
Hey Neil,
Did you get my order for a black & gold KK2 frame?
While you're printing it can you print me another black arm please..... While avoiding the bird table I backed into an overhanging bush in my mum's back garden flying FPV !
The arm broke across the step which is in line with the end of the motor mount, it might be better for the thickness to gently taper down as the motor mount area doesn't need to be so thick at the end? See second pic.
Andrew
Took the quad out for some fun and it performed brilliantly. Untill a full throttle rake off caused a flip into the ground. Two broken arms and a base plate.
(http://s1.postimg.org/u93sdlyiz/20140216_160509.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u93sdlyiz/)
Order coming your way soon krikey lol
First flight and fpv of the mini quad .
recorded from dvr down link got some black and white
needs a small O ring on the jack plug.
kk2 1.5 acro manual. running 5.8 on this quad. :D
mini quad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AStkrkHLqz0#ws)
good stuff Ady,the minis sure are the way forward ;)
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 16, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Hey Neil,
Did you get my order for a black & gold KK2 frame?
While you're printing it can you print me another black arm please..... While avoiding the bird table I backed into an overhanging bush in my mum's back garden flying FPV !
The arm broke across the step which is in line with the end of the motor mount, it might be better for the thickness to gently taper down as the motor mount area doesn't need to be so thick at the end? See second pic.
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
I'll adjust the design slightly to see if this helps.
So, some new tweaks to V3 (III) of the frame which will be present on all new orders from today:
* added small fillets to the corners of the legs to enhance strength.
* replaced the step on the arms with a graduation where the motor is mounted to increase strength.
* increased the gap in the KK2 top plate by 2mm x 2mm to allow users to mount their KK2s with 1mm gap all round, thus reducing chances of transmitting vibes to the KK2.
* increased size of KK2 glue on bottom for above mod.
* moved KK2 bottom plate mounting holes so that they now align with KK2 board holes.
* increased the size of the two holes for cable channeling on the KK2 plate.
* rounded corners on KK2 top plate (aethetics really to match the rounded corners of the other components).
* each piece will now be marked (Roman Numerals) with the version number.
Soon to be releasing a new Battery plate extra for the K-Quad. This will help to combat the Pendulum effect that some users experience when slinging the battery below.
The kit will consist of:
1 x Battery plate with inspection hole (to get to KK2 board when battery is removed).
4 x 12mm standoffs.
4 x 65mm M4 bolts to replace 45mm bolts.
(http://gyazo.com/6869399939b4bb68d7e303e1f5df2dc8.png)
Looks good Krikey - some slots in the battery plate for velcro straps might be a good idea?
if it was me I would widen,width ways, the bottom plate where KK sits and get rid of centre plate and use the white small plastic spacers to mount KK..
Not sure I follow Brod. The centre plate IS the KK2 plate in that diagram. Unless you mean that you simply use spacers to mount the KK2 but then this means that your ESCs go underneath the base plate. Where would your battery go?
yeh,mount KK using something like these on bottom black plate,matching nylon screws of course :)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29538__5_6mm_x_6mm_M3_Nylon_Tapped_Spacer_10pc_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29538__5_6mm_x_6mm_M3_Nylon_Tapped_Spacer_10pc_.html)
either mount escs under arms or on top and cover/wrap with plastic insulating tape.
batt would go on top plate then...
hmm trouble with that is more bolts, as the 4 that come with the kit also attach the arms and the legs. I don't want to add more weight to the frame if I can help it.
Be nice if somebody were to make up a table of motors and types of esc's used for reference, I will hopefully be a proud owner of one of these babies soon But i have found the whole thread a little confusing with so many of you guys using such a huge selection of parts :D
I am thinking 3s would be the way for me to go but really unsure what to purchase motor,esc,props for her, I can't throw huge sums at her so would like to purchase right first time a tried and tested selection of parts for my build :D
anyone with a really happy to share set up please?
I will be using a frsky rx and KK2 board and 808 for the fpv cam :)
dizzy :)
Hi can you please share the STl files please. I am from India.
I'll take a top plate kit when they're ready.
Quote from: krikey on February 18, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
hmm trouble with that is more bolts, as the 4 that come with the kit also attach the arms and the legs. I don't want to add more weight to the frame if I can help it.
eh,same arm bolts would go through top and bottom plate...but its up to you mate,your quad ;)
Quote from: mervintt on February 19, 2014, 07:00:31 AM
Hi can you please share the STl files please. I am from India.
Hi Krokey...can you please share the STl files please. I am from
[email protected] please
Krikey*
Hey please provide the STL file .
[email protected]
Hi can you ship it to India ?
hw much is shipping to India
Please provide your email id. I am a beginner. Please help
Just got three Skews from Gav http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,11108.0.html (http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,11108.0.html) short one for the K-Quad, long one for my X580 (armless at the moment as I'm fitting some LED's while the weather is poo) and a stiff one (oo'er!) For my FatSharks. Choice of lengths, quick delivery, (very) well packed. Hope to give them a try at the weekend.
Andrew
Quote from: Dizzy on February 18, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
Be nice if somebody were to make up a table of motors and types of esc's used for reference, I will hopefully be a proud owner of one of these babies soon But i have found the whole thread a little confusing with so many of you guys using such a huge selection of parts :D
I am thinking 3s would be the way for me to go but really unsure what to purchase motor,esc,props for her, I can't throw huge sums at her so would like to purchase right first time a tried and tested selection of parts for my build :D
anyone with a really happy to share set up please?
I will be using a frsky rx and KK2 board and 808 for the fpv cam :)
dizzy :)
I suspect this was not read before the spamming :+
dizzy :)
Hi Dizzy,
I did read it, but I'm not sure that I can offer much of a contribution. I'm using HobbyKing 1811-2000 Kv motors with 6 A Turnigy Plush ESC's and to be honest they're a bit weedy and it hovers at about 65~75% stick, OK indoors but might be a bit of a liability outside!
I suspect that the thin (motor winding) wire is limiting the current that can be drawn, the 6A ESC's certainly don't get hot and they don't even warranty them for 3S use!
My brother is about to build his with 2211-2300 Kv motors with 10 A Turnigy ESC's which ought to have a bit more voom!
I'm running 3S 1000 mAh NanoTechs and he's going to run 3S 1300 mAh NanoTechs.
Realistically for the weight of mine 2000 Kv is just a bit low, so I've ordered some of the TMX 2400 Kv motors that were linked earlier in this thread.
This has turned into a collection of my thoughts on the subject but I hope it helps.
Andrew
P.S. at least motors and ESC's in this size are cheap enough to experiment with!
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 19, 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Hi Dizzy,
I did read it, but I'm not sure that I can offer much of a contribution. I'm using HobbyKing 1811-2000 Kv motors with 6 A Turnigy Plush ESC's and to be honest they're a bit weedy and it hovers at about 65~75% stick, OK indoors but might be a bit of a liability outside!
I suspect that the thin (motor winding) wire is limiting the current that can be drawn, the 6A ESC's certainly don't get hot and they don't even warranty them for 3S use!
My brother is about to build his with 2211-2300 Kv motors with 10 A Turnigy ESC's which ought to have a bit more voom!
I'm running 3S 1000 mAh NanoTechs and he's going to run 3S 1300 mAh NanoTechs.
Realistically for the weight of mine 2000 Kv is just a bit low, so I've ordered some of the TMX 2400 Kv motors that were linked earlier in this thread.
This has turned into a collection of my thoughts on the subject but I hope it helps.
Andrew
P.S. at least motors and ESC's in this size are cheap enough to experiment with!
Thank you for your thoughts on it i will be interested to see how your brothers performs in comparison and also your new motors too, i would like to be able to take mine abroad for some fpv on my travels so something thats got a good capibility would be ace :)
thanks again dizzy :)
I'm off to Thailand at the beginning of next month for three weeks, probably take both Quads and a T-Rex 250 (got a ducted fan Vampire on top of the wardrobe over there already!). I've taken models with me the last 5 or 6 times I've been. There's a model club 'Prakasa flying club' that fly a couple of miles from our place in SamutPrakan.
Slightly shaky video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdyrMl6oYHo&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdyrMl6oYHo&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Andrew
Quote from: Bowerz on February 19, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
Please stop spamming the thread, and give people a chance to reply! He probably won't give the plans as then you could print them and make money from his design in India, it's just unlucky he's in the UL and you aren't.
He may not care about it and give them but if I was in his position I certainly wouldn't!
Hi sorry about the spamming. I m a new user. Here in India very little RC fans. and getting it shipped here is a headache. So thought if he could help. Anyway am sorry :)
Quote from: mervintt on February 20, 2014, 03:35:20 AM
Quote from: Bowerz on February 19, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
Please stop spamming the thread, and give people a chance to reply! He probably won't give the plans as then you could print them and make money from his design in India, it's just unlucky he's in the UL and you aren't.
He may not care about it and give them but if I was in his position I certainly wouldn't!
Hi sorry about the spamming. I m a new user. Here in India very little RC fans. and getting it shipped here is a headache. So thought if he could help. Anyway am sorry :)
PMed. Fraid I won't share the plans ;) but I've provided a cost for shipping.
Cheers Bowerz for your comment you have me thinking now 2s or 3s lol
Looking forward to your results too :)
dizzy :)
.......damage after falling 30m from the top of a tree...... :o ;D
It belongs to a friend of mine - luckily we have spares..... ;)
My brothers K-Quad has just flown, (quick hover in the office at lunchtime). HK 2211-2300Kv motors, 5 x 4.5 3 blade props, 10A Turnigy plush ESC's, 3S 1300mAh NanoTechs and KK2.1, no FPV gear as yet. Hovers a tad under 1/2 stick and has significantly more pop than mine, motors get warmish so maybe a little over propped.
Andrew
The black and green with black/green tri-props looks lovely.
Hey Neil,
How's the black/gold one coming along? PM'd / PayPalled you on the 11th and haven't heard back yet........
Andrew
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 25, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
Hey Neil,
How's the black/gold one coming along? PM'd / PayPalled you on the 11th and haven't heard back yet........
Andrew
LOL SNAP Dizzy awaits hers, in Cornish Colours too ;D
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 25, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
Hey Neil,
How's the black/gold one coming along? PM'd / PayPalled you on the 11th and haven't heard back yet........
Andrew
I received a new batch of Black yesterday, so I should be able to rattle off the parts. Diz I PMed you too.
Quote from: krikey on February 25, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 25, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
Hey Neil,
How's the black/gold one coming along? PM'd / PayPalled you on the 11th and haven't heard back yet........
Andrew
I received a new batch of Black yesterday, so I should be able to rattle off the parts. Diz I PMed you too.
sounds like your going through reels of the stuff ;D
dizzy ;)
I have mine built now . . . KK2.1 FC, Turnigy 1811 3800kv Motors, Turnigy Plush 10A ESC, GemFan 5030 Props with 2S 1300 & 1600 Lipo's . . . can anybody share their KK (2.1) setup as a starting point for me ?
Got some good answers and some further info posted to my question in CurryKittens build thread . . . here http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,17287.60.html (http://www.fpvhub.com/index.php/topic,17287.60.html).
Hello all,
Im still struggling with getting Black filament. After trying two other providers this month, im still not happy with the Black prints for the base. I'll keep you all informed as to orders etc separately as always.
It might be that, but my other black was fine. Of course the filament is different so its finding the correct settings for use with this type of filament. Im getting there now, as I have a base printed so happy days :)
Well i finally found out why those turnigy motors didnt give me enough thrust,it was the HQ props.
Had some rcx motors on another quad with the same props and lack of thrust,changed to gemfan 5x3 and wow,
hovering at 50% throttle instead of 60%.
Still awaiting more 1811 motors from hobbyking,hopefully next week then i can get my gold K-Quad up and running again.
Hi Neil,
Black and gold K-Quad arrived as promised, quick assembled pic on my desk as usual! Now just waiting for the motors/ESC/props from MyRCMart, they're a bit slow to ship, 10 days or so from order to ship tracking shows them here in the UK.
Andrew
Glad it arrived safely. I think Im getting to grips with my new black ABS now too. It seems that one of my nozzles is playing up :) so ive switched to the other one as its a dual extrusion printer.
Remaining orders are now being printed, hoorah!!!
Hi guys. Been busy for a while so not had any thing to really report. Finally got my K-quad going. Whilst setting up and testing, I busted a leg with a heavy landing on grass.
So I made new ones out of half round gutter. Also on one flight, on another unsceduled landing the port rear prop came off (anti clockwise) found the prop but trying to find the retaining spinner, was I lucky, or is it good eye sight? I found it in the grass.
Before I spotted it I was already thinking of the options for retaining the prop. Finding anti clockwise nuts to fit would be like finding rocking horse crap.
I have now painted the spinners orange, so maybe they will be easily spotted. I now check the tightness before flying.
I have made a plastic cover for the top (heat shrink bottle trick).
Also some mods to the bottom where I stick the battery.
Pictures
(http://s9.postimg.org/6vnnf4923/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6vnnf4923/)
(http://s9.postimg.org/hh7ir4fdn/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hh7ir4fdn/)
lol........ flypoppa, my quads usually end up upside-down too ;D
Quote from: bourney on March 01, 2014, 01:49:27 PM
lol........ flypoppa, my quads usually end up upside-down too ;D
These iPads do funny things to photos. Or maybe they got re routed to Australia.
Been out FPV'ing at the local park........ Broken the other side of the black arm this time! Mind you it did hit soft grass from 60~70 feet up!
Not quite sure what happened, flew one battery out fine, didn't go too high or too far away, got a bit more adventurous on the second battery. Went up to 80~100 feet and 100 yards away flew back towards some trees at about 4 minutes and the view suddenly rolled!
I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the trees as it landed in soft grass well clear on the side of the trees I was approaching from, my other thought was that the battery was done and the KK lost it's mind? On further investigation I'm leaning towards the left rear arm failing in flight (possibly weakened from my previous crash?).... when I got to the crash site the left rear prop was hooked round my nice new skew. I was seeing a bit of Jello at full throttle so maybe the vibration was too much for it? So tonight I'll mostly be dismantling it a bit and getting out the superglue!
Andrew
Some new tweaks coming soon to all new K-quads.
* three part base plate
* redesigned arms (stronger)
These two should be available shortly
Krikey
Here are some better pictures, and I hope they don't go via Australia.
(http://s24.postimg.org/54xv3gp81/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/54xv3gp81/)
(http://s24.postimg.org/g394lndtd/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/g394lndtd/)
(http://s24.postimg.org/r1ke3u2ep/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/r1ke3u2ep/)
Got the Turnigy 1811 3800kv but no bolts to keep the motors stuck to the frame... Its that normal?
What prop holder do you use?
(https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/1811-3800.jpg)
The one from the right seems better, but i want to make sure im using the right one...
Yes completely normal (they did come from HobbyKing ?) . . . I use cable ties to attach them to the frame. In the event of a crash the cable ties should break rather than the motor shafts bend or snap (I did have to drill the base plate holes out from 2.0mm to 2.5mm to get the small cable ties to fit though !) . . . alternatively you need some 2mm bolts, nuts and washers. By the way, DO NOT FORGET to thread lock and tighten the grub screws on both the mount and the shaft (you will need 1.3mm and 0.7mm Hex drivers for this) . . . they come loose and will slip or FLY OFF, if you don't . . . ask me how I know !
I have also started using RCX 1804 (2400kv) motors on my mini-quads now as they will run with 2 or 3 cell Lipo's, are compact, robust and give plenty of thrust. Their lower mounting profile makes them less much susceptible to damage than the Turnigy 1811's and they run quieter with less vibration, and can bought for $8.99 from RCmart (http://www.myrcmart.com/zmr-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/zmr-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html) & http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html)) and they solve the prop/nut spinning off problem by having CW & CCW versions.
By the way, the 'other' mini quad in my picture is a 250mm Super Simple Mini H-Quad from Polakium Engineering http://polakiumengineering.org/?p=2772 (http://polakiumengineering.org/?p=2772). With APC5045E & EP props and RCX1804's it is pretty bulletproof . . . have a look at the crash video in the link. He also has a hex built on a similar basis.
Here is the Norwegian version of the K-quad (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/05/nydeze5y.jpg)
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on March 01, 2014, 06:59:20 PM
Been out FPV'ing at the local park........ Broken the other side of the black arm this time! Mind you it did hit soft grass from 60~70 feet up!
Not quite sure what happened, flew one battery out fine, didn't go too high or too far away, got a bit more adventurous on the second battery. Went up to 80~100 feet and 100 yards away flew back towards some trees at about 4 minutes and the view suddenly rolled!
I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the trees as it landed in soft grass well clear on the side of the trees I was approaching from, my other thought was that the battery was done and the KK lost it's mind? On further investigation I'm leaning towards the left rear arm failing in flight (possibly weakened from my previous crash?).... when I got to the crash site the left rear prop was hooked round my nice new skew. I was seeing a bit of Jello at full throttle so maybe the vibration was too much for it? So tonight I'll mostly be dismantling it a bit and getting out the superglue!
Andrew
Looks like the crash was caused by M2 (front right) or it's ESC failing (they're both weedy little ones!).......
Done a bit more accident investigation. On closer inspection I discovered that the left side of the rear U/C was cracked upwards almost through, in line with the break in the arm, this would imply that they both broke when it hit the ground.
The clincher is that when I attempted to test fly it last night after repairs M2 wouldnt play! As my motors are soldered to the ESC's it'll have to wait until after my hols for further testing. So I can take it away with me my brother has generously (trusting!) Lent me his power train which has rather more sensible 10A ESC's.
Andrew
The K-Quad has flown in Thailand.
Had a couple of quick LOS hops and then a 5 minute FPV flight late this afternoon but it was still very windy (we're only a short distance inland from the Gulf of Thailand)! Takes a determined nose down attitude and plenty of power to get back from downwind!
Hopefully tomorrow will be better and I'll get to fly my X580quad as well. Not bad video range considering it's only got a 25mW VTX onboard.
Airport security is completely unpredictable! My carry on roller case (see pic) had Tx, K-Quad, FatShark goggles, 3 x 3300mAh 4S (for my EDF here) 3 x 3000 3S for my X580, 2 x1300's and 2 x 1500's for the K-Quad, oh and my DSLR, and went straight through x-ray with no questions asked, but they went to some trouble to find a zipper tag on my person that beeped the gate thingy?
Andrew
Fantastic to see these little things flying all over the world :)
Shortened K-Quad. This is using the new 3 part base plate.
Krikey
As a quick reminder to those using the Turnigy 1811 motors: Keep rechecking those grub screws ! Mine were locktighted in, but today it decided to pop out, and I got to see a shot of my prop wandering past my camera
Mine must have got just a tad loose and then pulling out of the dive was the straw that broke the camels back -
Motor mount fail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vWBiRxxemM#ws)
The screw tried to hang on best it could, and made this nice little mark :)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2330/13041514363_47c7f5998d_c.jpg)
Ouch, any damage done?
Quote from: krikey on March 09, 2014, 09:18:10 PM
Ouch, any damage done?
None at all, it landed quite flat and bounced :)
hi guys,
i am looking for a small quad and i think this might be it!!
I would like to know if i have the mobius camera and immersion 600mw, what is the maximum flight time possible with this frame?
I get around 6 minutes with a 2S 1300mAh setup running an 808 and a 600mW VTx. Some users are using 3S so perhaps you'll get more if using 3S.
how tough is this frame? for example it can survive crashes?
Well I think you should look back through the thread above :) Its a lightweight frame and mine has survived quite a few crashes but of course it really depends what you mean by "crash".
If you fell from 100 feet onto concrete I think it would be a miracle if nothing broke, let alone the frame :)
I'm always updating the frame design and rolling out new versions to counter some of the structural issues. The new base of the frame comes in three parts and the new arms which will be ready shortly will be more sturdy than the previous versions.
ok!
so my next question is whether you can do rtf or arf minus the rx and tx? unfortunately i dont have building skills! !
No unfortunately I don't do ARFs or RTFs, just the frame :)
I've been practising (no pain, no gain) flying low level along some tracks and around some bushes and this leafless bush just jumped up and knocked it out of the sky! Loosened my repair to the black arm and removed two prop blades ! Bugger!
Had a good day today, also managed to land my X580 quad upside down by bouncing a landing into a tight space!
Had a good laugh pushing my limits a bit, I've been up to > 500 feet with the X580 and it's quite windy here.
Andrew
I'd love to know how you are all getting on with your K-Quad frames, what setups are working for you, what issues you have/had and how/if you resolved them? Please let me know either by PM or on this thread.
Thanks all.
HI
RCX Motors and esc ordered from myrcsmart .
How to order your frame ? can you PM me .
Fabien
PMed
New video showing 4 ways to assemble the new V4 k-quad with three part base plate.
http://youtu.be/ThTj_0ETekg (http://youtu.be/ThTj_0ETekg)
In Answer to your query Krikey I,m still waiting for motors esc,s and props sulk sulk :+
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w385/dizzyfpvgirl/stillwaitingformotorspropsandescs_zps387fb634.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/dizzyfpvgirl/media/stillwaitingformotorspropsandescs_zps387fb634.jpg.html)
but soon i hope soon ;)
dizzy :)
Good to see it coming together Dizzy. Do you have any feedback on the frame so far? Any things you'd like to see changed? Or are you going to reserve judgement until you've flown it?
Quote from: krikey on March 23, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
Good to see it coming together Dizzy. Do you have any feedback on the frame so far? Any things you'd like to see changed? Or are you going to reserve judgement until you've flown it?
I think to be fair to yourself and others i need to fly her first but first impressions are a very nice print and clips together very well indeed Liked by all who have seen and handled the frame so far :D
As it is at present as caused some interest down here so more orders are on the horizon i think :D
http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html)
I have ordered above two of each rotation for the build plus the recommended esc,s and props but they are taking there time with this order for some reason :(
frustrated :+
dizzy :D
Same here, frustratingly my order with myrcmart didn't ship for at least a week after placing it!
I wish they'd use whatever shipping process that HobbyKing use as like another poster here it got a further delay in customs and was then landed with VAT which I then had to pay ParcelFarce for the honour of paying! :(
All in all not a very satisfactory purchasing experience compared to the extreme rarity of getting customs charges for HobbyKing stuff.
And to top it all their shipping charges seem quite pricy.
Andrew
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on March 25, 2014, 04:31:50 AM
Same here, frustratingly my order with myrcmart didn't ship for at least a week after placing it!
I wish they'd use whatever shipping process that HobbyKing use as like another poster here it got a further delay in customs and was then landed with VAT which I then had to pay ParcelFarce for the honour of paying! :(
All in all not a very satisfactory purchasing experience compared to the extreme rarity of getting customs charges for HobbyKing stuff.
And to top it all their shipping charges seem quite pricy.
Andrew
Looking on the positive side it has all arrived now :) and very nice they look too.
Admittedly they didn't turn up at work until the day you arrived in Thailand which was unhelpful >:(
Quite a few propeller's as well which is nice given the rate you seem to getting through them, should be enough for about a weeks flying at the present rate.
PS. Stop abusing my motors and speed controllers as I have your stuff in "protective custody". :P
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on March 25, 2014, 04:31:50 AM
Same here, frustratingly my order with myrcmart didn't ship for at least a week after placing it!
I wish they'd use whatever shipping process that HobbyKing use as like another poster here it got a further delay in customs and was then landed with VAT which I then had to pay ParcelFarce for the honour of paying! :(
All in all not a very satisfactory purchasing experience compared to the extreme rarity of getting customs charges for HobbyKing stuff.
And to top it all their shipping charges seem quite pricy.
Andrew
Doh, you mention this now *after* I placed an order with them :( Oh well, motors have at least shipped, lets see if I get to pay double with customs and admin fees as well
I just had an E mail after chasing my order yet again :+
My motors props and esc were posted today 26th March Not Bad when you consider the order was paid for on the 1st of this month :(
At least i have had a reply from my second EM
So far myrcmart are not my fav supplier :(
frustrated dizzy :(
Hi Krikey
I would like to order one of your frames. V4 , black is OK as long as one pair of legs is bright.
Can you contact me to tell me how I go about it.
Rod
Quote from: Rod Parsonage on March 27, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
Hi Krikey
I would like to order one of your frames. V4 , black is OK as long as one pair of legs is bright.
Can you contact me to tell me how I go about it.
Rod
PMed you can email me on krikey at bluebit dot co dot uk
Quote from: Dizzy on March 26, 2014, 08:58:52 PM
I just had an E mail after chasing my order yet again :+
My motors props and esc were posted today 26th March Not Bad when you consider the order was paid for on the 1st of this month :(
At least i have had a reply from my second EM
So far myrcmart are not my fav supplier :(
frustrated dizzy :(
OK i,m shocked look whats turned up today
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w385/dizzyfpvgirl/Kquadparts_zpsa84ac672.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/dizzyfpvgirl/media/Kquadparts_zpsa84ac672.jpg.html)
yippee LOL i take it back 3 days from china
dizzy :D
Quote from: Dizzy on March 29, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dizzy on March 26, 2014, 08:58:52 PM
I just had an E mail after chasing my order yet again :+
My motors props and esc were posted today 26th March Not Bad when you consider the order was paid for on the 1st of this month :(
At least i have had a reply from my second EM
So far myrcmart are not my fav supplier :(
frustrated dizzy :(
OK i,m shocked look whats turned up today
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w385/dizzyfpvgirl/Kquadparts_zpsa84ac672.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/dizzyfpvgirl/media/Kquadparts_zpsa84ac672.jpg.html)
yippee LOL i take it back 3 days from china
dizzy :D
Not too bad, did you get caught for customs?
Hi CAndrewGreen nope went it went straight through from the markings ;D
dizzy :)
My motors turned up as well, maybe they all got sent at once. I notice the mounting holes are closer together than with the Turnigy 1811 motors. How are people mounting these.
Edit: scratch that, I've got an old broken leg and that has a range of a slot it will go into. Not sure about the slightly newer leg, I'll have to double check once I get an old motor off
mounting these little blighters is going to be a problem so i think some adaptors need to be made to keep the weight down :D
I,m working on it and have a couple of idea,s ;)
dizzy :)
Quote from: Dizzy on March 29, 2014, 10:11:31 PM
mounting these little blighters is going to be a problem so i think some adaptors need to be made to keep the weight down :D
I,m working on it and have a couple of idea,s ;)
dizzy :)
Will be interested to see you ideas Dizzy. The hole space it a bit close together for the newer legs I have, so a question of do I file a little bit out those slits to line the motor up. Or do I make up a mount of some description to screw the motors into and then screw those to fit in the existing holes
i am having a go at your second idea CurryKitten, make a pc board mount to screw the motor too then cut out a slightly bigger hole and re drill to screw that too the arm by removing some materiel from the arms it will offset the weight i am adding
Of course the motor screws will have to be countersunk into the pc board for it to lay flat :)
dizzy :)
I've had some requests to lengthen the holes on the legs for bigger motor mounts now. So perhaps if people are going to fly 3S, which seems likely, can you let me know the diagonal max dimensions for the new slots and I can work some up on a new leg design?
Hi guys, the stuff from rc mart, rcx 1804 motors ( 2 clock, 2 anti clock ) and 5x3 props, rcx 10 amp esc's will be good for this quad?
If someone can confirm please then I'll place my order :)
Cheers
HI,
Frame recevied , Good Job and print .
2 Things for improving :) :
the hole on arms for the motor mounting are only for the turnigy motors ? Cannot mount the RCX .
Cannot re-screw , the hole on the arm for the bearing and circlips is too big . not enought material .
On the no-KK2 bottom plate (normal) will be good to gets the 4 holes to mound an CC3D flight control .
Fabien
The assembly will wait
Could you tell me what the diagonal space would be for the RCX motors? Im fast reaching the opinion that I need to provide inserts so that more motors can be fitted.
I've got 11mm on my calipers, the shaft that comes through is about 5mm in diameter - so would need a few mm around it to keep out of the way.
The screws they come with for mounting are m2's, the shaft look to be about 3.3mm, and the head 1.3mm (ish) Mentioned as if you were making a mount you might like to counter sink the screw for the motor in, and then use the existing holes in the frame to securing the mounting plate.... if that makes sense
MY adaptor plate design for converting the frame mounting bolt holes to suit the tiny motors from My rc mart :D
Basically its small pieces of pcb board without the copper centre drilled to 6mm stuck on a 6mm bolt spun up on the drill filed round then 8 holes in each the inner 4 for the motor the outer four for the frame holes counter sunk on opposite sides.
I have ordered 2mm counter sunk 4mm long for the motor and 8mm countersunk for the frame side with nuts to suite.
In the picture those are dropped in when done up there flush the 8mm length is needed so you can get a grip with a pair of pliers when tightening them under the frame becouse the heads would be covered by the motor ( so its motor fit first with thread lock then fit the adaptor plate to the frame ) job done :D
I could not think of anything simpler tbh :D
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w385/dizzyfpvgirl/adaptorplateforthosetinymotors_zps6d8eeb2f.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/dizzyfpvgirl/media/adaptorplateforthosetinymotors_zps6d8eeb2f.jpg.html)
Thats interesting Dizzy. How do you tighten down your bracket to the frame as the motor seems to get in the way, or does it?
Quote from: krikey on April 04, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Thats interesting Dizzy. How do you tighten down your bracket to the frame as the motor seems to get in the way, or does it?
Its a bodge but works just hold the end of the 8mm bolt with a pair of pliers when you do the nut up :D
I intend cutting them to length once installed anyway anything to keep the weight as low as possible
It works and was free as i had bits of pcb board in my scraps box :)
dizzy
Ok im mocking up some "dizzy plates" now :)
EDIT:
...and heres the first. inner holes are 12.4 diameter to fit these: http://www.myrcmart.com/zmr-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/zmr-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html)
(http://s11.postimg.org/hl9k8hp8v/k_L3l0_Sz.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hl9k8hp8v/)
Quote from: krikey on April 04, 2014, 09:08:35 PM
Ok im mocking up some "dizzy plates" now :)
Oh shucks never had anything named after me before cheers krikey :D
dizzy :)
Quote from: CurryKitten on April 04, 2014, 06:15:38 PM
I've got 11mm on my calipers, the shaft that comes through is about 5mm in diameter - so would need a few mm around it to keep out of the way.
The screws they come with for mounting are m2's, the shaft look to be about 3.3mm, and the head 1.3mm (ish) Mentioned as if you were making a mount you might like to counter sink the screw for the motor in, and then use the existing holes in the frame to securing the mounting plate.... if that makes sense
Is that 11mm diameter CK or 11mm between each hole (not diagonal). If theres a motor spec page, let me know and Ill find the diagrams there.
I measured at 11mm between the holes - but in a diagonal, which should be the diameter. The page could be right though, as the caliper ends are kind of curved so I attempted to measure from the middle, but I can get a reading from both ends of the hole between 10.4mm and 12.4mm
I just been playing about fitting those motors using my plates i found the length of the long bolts to bolt through the frame need to be at least 10 prob 12mm be better as a washer needs to be fitted underneath plus the nut so an 8mm bolt even well countersunk is a bit to short to hold properly when doing the nut up :+
So have revised my order and purchased 12mm countersunk pins and washers to fit :)
dizzy :)
I am still around, but have not been posting for a while. During my learning to fly my K- quad, I have had a few breakages. First I damaged the legs. Then a couple of arms.
I thought this could be costly. Due respect to Krikey, and he makes a great if for me a fragile frame. The rest of the body parts are still good.
So what I have done, I flattened some half round gutter and cut out arms and legs. I have also made a hatch cover from water bottles and shrunk over a mould.
I have also now found a case that the quad, TX and spares fit into.
Love the idea of the case for it all. What can we do about the arms? Perhaps more plastic and less holes?
Now I'm back from holiday and I've given my brother his motors/esc's back I'm re-equipping with MyRCMart 1804/2400's. After having a measure up I carefully filed the existing slots inwards a little:
(http://s30.postimg.org/x3z02cga5/20140408_130934.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/x3z02cga5/)
After this pic was taken I extended the slots a bit further as it was pushing the screws out a bit, the pic makes it look worse because of the pincushion distortion of my phone camera in macro mode!
(http://s27.postimg.org/yb2tzze7j/20140408_130926.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yb2tzze7j/)
I'm using M2 x 6 screws with washers and they don't protrude into the motor.
Re the breaking arms thing, I've yet to break the green arm, but I've broken both sides of the black arm? Oddly enough the black arm is at the back (arrives second at the scene of the crash!)....maybe the green plastic is more flexible or bonds better to itself?
Andrew
Sounds to me like I need to do some more crash testing. After falling in love with the Blackout which looks like a fantastic frame (but costs $149) I'll have a look to see how I can strengthen it up a bit more.
The plans for the K-Quad are now available on Thingiverse: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:299143 (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:299143) so if you fancy printing one out yourselves then fill your boots.
Hi Krikey, I sent you a email regarding a K Quad, but then after reading further in I see you changed your email addy, so thought I'd just post in here
So should I send a email to the new address or?
Hi Zilla,
You can email me at kquad at bluebit dot co dot uk
A new Quad frame is on the way. Doing some preliminary tests now.
Krikey
:sparta:
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 16, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Hey Neil,
Did you get my order for a black & gold KK2 frame?
While you're printing it can you print me another black arm please..... While avoiding the bird table I backed into an overhanging bush in my mum's back garden flying FPV !
The arm broke across the step which is in line with the end of the motor mount, it might be better for the thickness to gently taper down as the motor mount area doesn't need to be so thick at the end? See second pic.
Andrew
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=28419 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=28419)
Andrew is this the motor you are using and what size of bolts are you using to bolt them to the frame?
Thanks
Quote from: Sommie1974 on April 22, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
:sparta:Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 16, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Hey Neil,
Did you get my order for a black & gold KK2 frame?
While you're printing it can you print me another black arm please..... While avoiding the bird table I backed into an overhanging bush in my mum's back garden flying FPV !
The arm broke across the step which is in line with the end of the motor mount, it might be better for the thickness to gently taper down as the motor mount area doesn't need to be so thick at the end? See second pic.
Andrew
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=28419 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=28419)
Andrew is this the motor you are using and what size of bolts are you using to bolt them to the frame?
Thanks
Welllll..... they were the motors that I fitted when I first built my K-Quad, but I don't think they're quite high enough Kv. It always hovered at above half stick even running 3 blade 5 x 3 props.
I flew it FPV and it didn't seem to lack power to arrest a descent from height, but if you see one of my earlier posts just before I went off on holiday it went in from 70~80' or so. After patching it up the front right corner didn't run, crash probably due to me frying the weedy little 5A esc's which aren't actually recomended for 3 cell use!
Helpfully my kind brother lent me the powertrain from his K-Quad which uses these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8140__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300kv.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8140__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300kv.html) with 10A esc's, 2300Kv seems to be a better match and with them it hovers a touch under half throttle with 2 blade 5 x 3 Gemfan props and it certainly has some pop!
Before I went off on holiday I had already ordered some of these:
http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html) unfortunately out of stock at the moment.
And these:
http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html)
(The right handed ones have a left hand thread so they're self tightening)
But they were a bit slow coming and didn't arrive 'till after I'd gone. I've finally sorted fitting them and some 10A SimonK firmware esc's but I'm yet to fly it outdoors. Unfortunately the esc's from MyRCMart are too big to go in the frame so I'e had to mount them under the arms which will be a pain if (when) I snap the arms again.
For simplicity I think you would be pretty safe with the HobbyKing 2211/2300Kv motors (damn, just noticed they're on backorder too!) with Turnigy 10A esc's which are small enough to fit one above the other under the ends of the top plate. Use 3 cell 1300 or 1500mAh LiPos and 2 blade 5 x 3 props.
Apologies for the long winded reply.
Andrew
PS I used M2 x 10 screws with nuts (and threadlock!) to secure the 1811 or 2211 motors.
How OCD is that? Colour matched cable ties on the arms! (Pack from Poundland, 4 colours of nice long thin cable ties)
Quote from: krikey on April 20, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
A new Quad frame is on the way. Doing some preliminary tests now.
Krikey
Is that the 'Hovership' from Thingiverse?
Andrew
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on April 22, 2014, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Sommie1974 on April 22, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
:sparta:Quote from: CAndrewGreen on February 16, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Hey Neil,
Did you get my order for a black & gold KK2 frame?
While you're printing it can you print me another black arm please..... While avoiding the bird table I backed into an overhanging bush in my mum's back garden flying FPV !
The arm broke across the step which is in line with the end of the motor mount, it might be better for the thickness to gently taper down as the motor mount area doesn't need to be so thick at the end? See second pic.
Andrew
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=28419 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=28419)
Andrew is this the motor you are using and what size of bolts are you using to bolt them to the frame?
Thanks
Welllll..... they were the motors that I fitted when I first built my K-Quad, but I don't think they're quite high enough Kv. It always hovered at above half stick even running 3 blade 5 x 3 props.
I flew it FPV and it didn't seem to lack power to arrest a descent from height, but if you see one of my earlier posts just before I went off on holiday it went in from 70~80' or so. After patching it up the front right corner didn't run, crash probably due to me frying the weedy little 5A esc's which aren't actually recomended for 3 cell use!
Helpfully my kind brother lent me the powertrain from his K-Quad which uses these:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8140__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300kv.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8140__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300kv.html) with 10A esc's, 2300Kv seems to be a better match and with them it hovers a touch under half throttle with 2 blade 5 x 3 Gemfan props and it certainly has some pop!
Before I went off on holiday I had already ordered some of these:
http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-anticlockwise-p-6280.html) unfortunately out of stock at the moment.
And these:
http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html (http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-1804-2400kv-micro-outrunner-brushless-motor-clockwise-p-6281.html)
(The right handed ones have a left hand thread so they're self tightening)
But they were a bit slow coming and didn't arrive 'till after I'd gone. I've finally sorted fitting them and some 10A SimonK firmware esc's but I'm yet to fly it outdoors. Unfortunately the esc's from MyRCMart are too big to go in the frame so I'e had to mount them under the arms which will be a pain if (when) I snap the arms again.
For simplicity I think you would be pretty safe with the HobbyKing 2211/2300Kv motors (damn, just noticed they're on backorder too!) with Turnigy 10A esc's which are small enough to fit one above the other under the ends of the top plate. Use 3 cell 1300 or 1500mAh LiPos and 2 blade 5 x 3 props.
Apologies for the long winded reply.
Andrew
PS I used M2 x 10 screws with nuts (and threadlock!) to secure the 1811 or 2211 motors.
How OCD is that? Colour matched cable ties on the arms! (Pack from Poundland, 4 colours of nice long thin cable ties)
Hi Andrew. Just the reply I wanted.
Think I will order the frame then get some parts sorted.
Top man thanks for your help.
Btw I think I will go for the plush 10amp esc. They seem good. (Oh I think that's the ones you mean lol)
Kirkey can you pm me please about your quad
I think they're the esc's my brother got, I'll try and remember to ask him next time I talk to him. Buy several bags of props! The cheap Gemfan props aren't terribly strong and they get chewed up quite easily, but being light probably helps with throttle response and should save your motor shafts!
One other recomendation I forgot is to get some 2mm collet type prop adaptors from Micron RC as the grub screw ones that come with the motors aren't a very good fit.
Andrew
Don't think I posted these pics before:
Thanks for that Andrew.
I plan on buying the mobuis to use as an fpv and record camera and the fat sharks predator v2 as a stating point.
I think this quad will be a very good first mini. That's the plan anyway lol
I fly with FatShark Attitudes, don't currently have any facility for recording flights on the K-Quad.
I've read various reports about using (digital) recorders as FPV cameras and the lag that comes from the digital to analogue conversion to achieve video out, some say OK some say too laggy.
What I need to do is redesign my FPV camera mount so I can fit my Hobby King 'Wing Cam' next to it.
Andrew
Yes I'm with you. I think as long as your flying in a wide open space like a field for instance it should be ok. If your flying through trees etc then I would say no. Heard a lot of people say the mobius is fine for both so
I will give it a try. If not I hope the k-quad can handle x2 cameras! :D
Quote from: CAndrewGreen on April 22, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: krikey on April 20, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
A new Quad frame is on the way. Doing some preliminary tests now.
Krikey
Is that the 'Hovership' from Thingiverse?
Andrew
no it's not as the hovership has different components. I didn't like the way the arms fixed on the hovership, they looked a little weak and I wanted to strengthen up my own design too.
My new design does use ideas from the hovership and the blackout, such as multiple bottom plates and swivelling arms and similar motor fixing holes for the motors but I'm also incorporating ideas from the original k-quad such as the KK2 mount which will be revised to handle more flight board types using slots rather than holes, the same 3 piece base plate idea that is used in more recent k-quads.
It'll be ready soon.
Krikey
Some pictures of my K-Quad now the motors and ESC's have returned from their holidays in Thailand, thanks Andrew.
Turned out a bit on the porky side at 468g fully charged, but with the 5 x 3 two blade props (Gemfans?) one thing it does NOT lack is get up and go.
So much in fact that it got up and bu&&ered off into the trees last week.
Result of the ensuing 20 foot dead drop onto grass was one broken arm, black, and a camera bracket that looked like it had been in a car crash.
I my defence it was almost dark, about 30 yards away and I was having a damn good hoon around ;D
Quick repair however, thin super glue and a few inches of carbon tow, good as new.
Finally got the camera and video Tx connected together so next will durability testing while learning to fly FPV.
I think it might be a good thing I'm building a 3D printer as I see an extensive spares requirement in my immediate future :+
Using 10A Turnigy Plush ESC's http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4204 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4204) these fit neatly under the top plate two at each end.
Turnigy 2211 2300kv motors http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8140 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8140)
Turnigy Nano tech 1300mAh 3 cell pack.
Hobby King KK2.1 flight controller, currently running Steveis V1.11S2 firmware http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2065583 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2065583) but will try V1.17S1Pro sometime soon http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2144803 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2144803)
Also a good instruction and setup manual by Steveis http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=6674228&d=1397254268 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=6674228&d=1397254268)
Another little teaser for the new frame showing the Flight controller mounting board with and without the top central plate.
(http://s28.postimg.org/e77vibpjt/2014_04_24_19_16_46.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/e77vibpjt/)
(http://s28.postimg.org/gjypi9cm1/2014_04_24_19_20_35.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gjypi9cm1/)
Looks good mate
Finally got the black and gold K-Quad that I'm building for one of the guys at our local heli club finished...... Just got to solder the 2 led headlight on the black / red wires at the front and fit some props and it's test flight time.
Same power setup as the retrofit to my green and black one, RCX 1804/2400Kv motors with 10A SimonK firmware esc's & 3 Cell 1300mAh NanoTechs.
Did this one with the rx at the back as it's only going to be a line of sight flyer and doesn't need the space for a vtx, I think he's going to fit a keychain camera so as a relative lightweight it should go well!
Andrew.
Looking good Andrew!
I have ordered the all black Frame with the kk2 board recess.
I had to order the motors from HK euro (holland)
Opted for the turnigy 2211 2300kv and I will order the plush 10amps for the esc's
;-)
Sommie,
you've ordered the new V5 frame which is not the same as Andrews. Did you want the same as Andrew or go for the new frame? Heres a piccy of both. The V5 on the left and the V1-4 on the right.
The new V5 is more like the shape of the Blackout frame and will take a board camera as well as a bigger LiPo and Mobius but is heavier at 180g whereas the V1-4 is 100g.
I'm working on reducing the weight of the V5 for future versions by swapping out the M3 bolts for nylon spacers again similar to the blackout.
(http://s4.postimg.org/c24m3g949/2014_04_25_10_44_57.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/c24m3g949/)
Hi kirkey. Yes sorry I am after the new frame. The V5 lol
Thanks
Sommie
Hey Guys,
Some more piccies of the V5 showing the build steps and also some completed photos of Sommies V5.
(http://s27.postimg.org/5d6cobdlb/DSC_7090.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5d6cobdlb/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/6uwedm7pr/DSC_7092.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6uwedm7pr/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/oslpv5w9b/DSC_7093.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/oslpv5w9b/) |
(http://s27.postimg.org/f1xkwocjz/DSC_7094.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/f1xkwocjz/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/t3ir9puvj/DSC_7095.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/t3ir9puvj/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/ki7iiy83z/DSC_7096.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ki7iiy83z/) |
(http://s27.postimg.org/zalf1rssv/DSC_7097.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/zalf1rssv/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/5dp6qno27/DSC_7098.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5dp6qno27/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/57bhnkexb/DSC_7099.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/57bhnkexb/) |
(http://s27.postimg.org/7h47c2d8v/DSC_7100.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7h47c2d8v/) | (http://s27.postimg.org/dzx1ozpfz/DSC_7101.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dzx1ozpfz/) | |
Now this is pretty!!
This is a "don't do it like this" post. krikey very kindly gave me his new v5 frame to try, and I quickly ripped the bits off the old k-quad and stuff them on here. This isn't really the way to go - I should be changing cable lengths in order to use the bottom shelf for escs (maybe) and perhaps middle for power.
The other thing I'd suggest against is putting a bloody great 2200 3s on there because you don't have any smaller 3s lips and thought you'd just shove anything on there :)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5237/13916806730_9c97f36d32_c.jpg)
Despite all of that, it flew - a little impromptu video in the garden, as filmed by Sophie on my iPhone (with her thumb in shot as a bonus)
http://youtu.be/O1sSGhaLw18 (http://youtu.be/O1sSGhaLw18)
Hi Neil, can you knock me up a black V5 please bud, I can`t resist anymore, got to give this a go :)
I have just ordered the KK2, 10 amp Turnigy ESC`s, I have all the rest apart from the motors and props. I am slightly put off the Turnigy`s after Wayne s issues.
What are the recommendations from you guys now for motor / prop combos for decent agility / flight times ?
Don't know yet, but the K in that config will take a 5" prop at a max (but the arms can swing out further). I think you want perhaps a 1000-1500 3s, but I'm not sure yet, which will probably be good for 6ish minutes.
Basically I need to get a bunch of lips and mess about
Looks great curry!
Mine should hopefully be at home when I get bk.
I am using the turnigy motors. I will see what they are like and if they're no good I will order the rcx motors. Is there much difference?
Thanks
I`ll try those 1804`s, ordered from Bangood, they were the only ones with CW and CCW in stock
Hey Sommie,
Yours was posted on Friday so you should have it by Monday at the latest. Would love to hear some more feedback on this V5.
Quote from: krikey on May 04, 2014, 10:05:21 PM
Hey Sommie,
Yours was posted on Friday so you should have it by Monday at the latest. Would love to hear some more feedback on this V5.
Will do mate. Hope to get it built this week
Quote from: Sommie1974 on May 04, 2014, 06:14:10 PM
I am using the turnigy motors. I will see what they are like and if they're no good I will order the rcx motors. Is there much difference?
Well, you are not supposed to run the Turnigy motors off a 3 cell. What I found with them - and I stress this could just me being unlucky - was they'd work pretty well at the start, and then then things would go downhill. Out of the ones I was running 2 of them didn't seem able to hold a higher throttle without the RPM varying - quite rapidly. This led to big wobbles that I couldn't tune out.
The 1811-2900s I had on my first mini seemed to fair a bit better but I still had some unexplained issues. I think it comes from a vey weak connection on the windings. You can literally breathe on it wrong, and that the motor done.
Of course I've only run these RCX's for about 5 minutes, so it's unfair to pass judgement prematurely
Quote from: CurryKitten on May 04, 2014, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: Sommie1974 on May 04, 2014, 06:14:10 PM
I am using the turnigy motors. I will see what they are like and if they're no good I will order the rcx motors. Is there much difference?
Well, you are not supposed to run the Turnigy motors off a 3 cell. What I found with them - and I stress this could just me being unlucky - was they'd work pretty well at the start, and then then things would go downhill. Out of the ones I was running 2 of them didn't seem able to hold a higher throttle without the RPM varying - quite rapidly. This led to big wobbles that I couldn't tune out.
The 1811-2900s I had on my first mini seemed to fair a bit better but I still had some unexplained issues. I think it comes from a vey weak connection on the windings. You can literally breathe on it wrong, and that the motor done.
Of course I've only run these RCX's for about 5 minutes, so it's unfair to pass judgement prematurely
It states on the HK website you can run them on 3s.
Ouch kinda regret buying them now. :-(
I will give it a few weeks then maybe order the rcx ones
Please keep us updated mate
Sommie
Quote from: Sommie1974 on May 04, 2014, 11:42:19 PM
Quote from: CurryKitten on May 04, 2014, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: Sommie1974 on May 04, 2014, 06:14:10 PM
I am using the turnigy motors. I will see what they are like and if they're no good I will order the rcx motors. Is there much difference?
Well, you are not supposed to run the Turnigy motors off a 3 cell. What I found with them - and I stress this could just me being unlucky - was they'd work pretty well at the start, and then then things would go downhill. Out of the ones I was running 2 of them didn't seem able to hold a higher throttle without the RPM varying - quite rapidly. This led to big wobbles that I couldn't tune out.
The 1811-2900s I had on my first mini seemed to fair a bit better but I still had some unexplained issues. I think it comes from a vey weak connection on the windings. You can literally breathe on it wrong, and that the motor done.
Of course I've only run these RCX's for about 5 minutes, so it's unfair to pass judgement prematurely
It states on the HK website you can run them on 3s.
Ouch kinda regret buying them now. :-(
I will give it a few weeks then maybe order the rcx ones
Please keep us updated mate
Sommie
Says max voltage 7v on this page http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__43485__Turnigy_1811_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_3800kv_UK_Warehouse_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__43485__Turnigy_1811_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_3800kv_UK_Warehouse_.html) ?
Like I said, my experience with them doesn't mean they are all crap... also nothing is an exact science in this game. I tried them out, they seemed ok - but went a bit crap, so I move on to something else. There's a lot of trial and error in this sort of stuff - when we started messing with it there wasn't much choice. Now the 250 sized quad seemed to have exploded and there's a lot more motors to choose from.
Ye that's true mate. Mini quads are Defo the in thing the now.
I went for these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8140__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300kv.html?strSearch=Turnigy%202300 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8140__Turnigy_2211_Brushless_Indoor_Motor_2300kv.html?strSearch=Turnigy%202300)
They are different motors from the ones you have curry
Ah different motors, nice - well ignore everything and carry on then. Once you mess around with them for a while post a report back so we can see if you'd recommend them or not to others :)
Always good to get data on these small motors.
Are the Turnigy Plush 10amp ESC`s getting flashed with SimonK or being left stock ?
mines stock.
Krikey
Quote from: Coyote on May 05, 2014, 02:58:42 AM
Are the Turnigy Plush 10amp ESC`s getting flashed with SimonK or being left stock ?
I don't think you can out SimonK on plushes, I'm experimenting having flashed mine with BLheli
OK I`ll leave them stock for now then, cheers guys
flashed my 6amps with BLheli much more stable
http://oddcopter.com/2012/07/18/flashing-silabs-escs-with-blheli-firmware/ (http://oddcopter.com/2012/07/18/flashing-silabs-escs-with-blheli-firmware/)
Anyone think this quad could lift a gopro 3?
If CurryKitten is lifting a 2200 LiPo at around 60% throttle, I'd say so :)
Well after some issues trying to get my kk2.1 board to fit (Thanks Kirkey and Curry K) I managed to get a quick maiden in the house.
The first hover is very ropey but the second is better after I tuned the quad.
All that's left to do is decide what FPV set up I am going for and we are good to go. I am uploading 2 quick videos of the first and second hover. Here are some pics of the build.
Set up as follows-
Turnigy 2211 2300kv motors
Turnigy plush 10amps (not flashed)
5x3 gemfan props
kk2.1 board (Stevie fimeware)
1300mah 3s
Spektrum Rx710 with failsafe (Incase I loose it while FPV lol)
Cant wait to FPV maiden now and get my first flight outside.
Sommie
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii257/agrs1974/1_zps1e0b66e0.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/agrs1974/media/1_zps1e0b66e0.jpg.html)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii257/agrs1974/2_zps1b8a9c20.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/agrs1974/media/2_zps1b8a9c20.jpg.html)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii257/agrs1974/3_zps72469004.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/agrs1974/media/3_zps72469004.jpg.html)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii257/agrs1974/4_zps6a3df3e7.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/agrs1974/media/4_zps6a3df3e7.jpg.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMnlC3PZZw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMnlC3PZZw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kF5UFYBCQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9kF5UFYBCQ)
Enjoy
looks a better design than the first frames ;)
Hey broad. You got me in to this. Mind you sold me a naza :-)
Quote from: jamiejig on May 05, 2014, 06:03:53 PM
flashed my 6amps with BLheli much more stable
http://oddcopter.com/2012/07/18/flashing-silabs-escs-with-blheli-firmware/ (http://oddcopter.com/2012/07/18/flashing-silabs-escs-with-blheli-firmware/)
have a look at this Ian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2agnNY5D-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2agnNY5D-8)
Doesn`t look too bad Jamie, cheers for that :)
ian don't solider plugs to the escs I just glued some arduino board leads together and bent pins to match esc connection's and hold in place
DWiskow built a really nice little widget for flashing plush ESCs that made things very easy. I was intending to do a little video on them a while back, but my motors all went to poo - and there's a limit to what ESC firmware will fix :)
here is mine simple see
(http://s13.postimg.org/f04bburfn/004.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/f04bburfn/)
Outside maiden ended in disaster. Flying along going great guns then as you can see in the video it goes wobbly. No prop damage, and wasnt een that high up. Arm broke so need to get a replacement. Thoughts on the crash? Now its trying to find the fault
Gutted doesn't even begin to explain.
Sommie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHZ86Cgd0MQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHZ86Cgd0MQ)
That was a shame Sommie, it was flying lovely. First glance looked like a motor stopped and it tumbled out of the sky - only thing I could think of was your wiring loom... and that's only given the problem you had earlier about an ESC apparently getting no power - but then being ok again. Just a quick loss of power will result in an ESC shutting down for a sec on (ask me how I know :)) and at that altitude it's enough to drop you onto the ground. It's worth having a really good look at these connection.
On a side note, take the s off the https to embed your video into your post
Cheers curry. I Took my time with the solder and everything seemed fine. When I picked the quad up after the crash it was still powered. Its a real strange one let me tell you.
Sommie
Ok - only mentioned because the lack of power to the kk2.1 board earlier flashes alarm bells.
Aside from that did you program the plushes for Ni-xx batteries, as you might get a real fast ESC shutdown if it's still programmed for li-xx and the voltage is getting low (if that was a fresh lipo though it's unlikely)
You could always try roping the quad to a few chairs and flying it under decent load for 5 minutes to see if something gives (once you get a new leg).
Props still on tight - one hadn't slipped ?
I know these unexplained dives out of the sky can be the most frustrating to sort - the tumble does look like a motor stopped, just finding out why is the tricky part.
I didn't program the esc's no. There was still 89% in the lipo.
Yes props still on tight. Kirkey is gonna sort me a new leg.
I am going to fly over some cushions for a full battery and see how it goes.
Thanks will keep you posted
Ps is it possible an arm could have snapped mid flight?
Hi Sommie, how did the arm break? could you send a piccie? interested to see where it broke. Let's see if it can be strengthened.
Krikey
Hi kirkey. The quad wasn't high up and looked as if it didn't crash hard in the video either. I glued It last night but I did take a pic. Hang on and I min and upload it.
photobucket.com/user/agrs1974/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps435349e4.jpg.html](http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii257/agrs1974/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps435349e4.jpg)[/URL]
Ordered the fpv250 quad frame, the afro 12amp esc's and the rcx motors.
Tested all the turnigy motors and turnigy esc's and they are fine. They are getting sold on fleabay with the v5 frame. Kind of put me off a bit :(
Sommie
You had a crash so you are selling the K Quad with all the bits on eBay ?
Yes mate. Going for different frame and set up.
One of the grub screws were a bit loose on the motors and I think this may have resulted in the crash.
Sommie do you still want me to send out a new arm?
Yes please mate
Thanks
Krikey, you interested in printing a tricopter version of the K-quad?
I can run all the designs and send them your way for finalising?
Hi Doge,
Sure! send me over your designs for me to take a look and see if I can print it, I'd love to help.
Cheers Krikey,
Just downloaded the files and having a tinker,
Main plan is keeping it 250 size, got a yaw mechanism sorted though might get a reprint to incorporate a better mounting of the motor plate
=]
Why not start up another dedicated thread on here too, especially as its going to be your design.
It's based on your quad so only fair its the K-Tri haha
I'm not about credit, just a frame to do the job =P
Mine has arrived :) Nice job Krikey, like the finish, look and how it was packaged mate, top job :)
I was just chatting to Wayne about the RCX screws being way too short and needing screws or to cable tie them on. He was interested on if and how you could do that so that they could break away in a crash. Turns out it was quite easy :
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n39/cayote64/cayote64095/IMAG0004_zpsbc410dba.jpg)
Cheers Ian. Glad it arrived safely and I do like the cable tie method. I may use that on mine.
Nice day today, stopped off for a little fly at Greenham Common near Newbury on the way home from work, it seemed quite strange flying a mini out in the open! Managed 2 batteries through it without breaking anything (a first)! :D
However Laurence was just hovering his back LOS when the battery went flat and it plopped in from 10' or so and broke an arm :(, nothing that a superglue and a bit of carbon fibre won't fix.
Andrew
Not bad for a night progress with no soldering iron lol
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n39/cayote64/cayote64097/IMAG0009_zps6cdeee11.jpg)
Nearly done
wow that was quick! Where did you source your props and are they 5x3s?
5x3's yes, I'll link them when I get back in bud
I got them from the US : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351063895285?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351063895285?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
Interesting findings that carry over to those using BL-Heli flashed Turnigy ESC`s with RCX motors
BLHeli ESC timing issue demo and fix for Cobra, Sunnysky, RCX 2300kv motors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv0cVXfqhSo#ws)
Video includes the fix
So after having the quad sat there, feeling a bit frustrated not being able to get it into a hover. Nothing to do with the frame at all, it was either the motors or the ESC`s. After many weird programming attempts with the Turnigy ESC`s I found thanks to Wayne (CuryKitten) that my flashing software was at fault.
Gave them a proper flash, took out the KK2.1 which is a good board but I`m a Naza whore so in went a Naza lite.
Fit a new set of props and took it out in the peeing down rain this afternoon
( Ignore the H-Quad cobblers, no idea what I was talking about :) )
K Quad maiden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9acH2WiGKzI#ws)
I`m liking this :)
Great to see it finished Ian, Looking forward to some more videos.
Cheers Neil, well its finished now, all FPV ready :
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n39/cayote64/cayote64105/IMAG0605_zpsb9458084.jpg)
I cant find my scales, but weighed it at Keiths, with lipo it was 477g
I have added a Lawmate Vtx - 10g A Mobius camera - 38g WDR - 30g
So should be around the 555g mark
Is there a v5 of the k quad coming out? If so im on the hunt for one.
There is and when im up and running again with my 3D printer (recently moved) I'll be printing out some.
Let me know when you get going and i will order one.
The k-quad 5.1 plans are now available for download from thingiverse.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:397036 (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:397036)
New project needed then ?
Well I do have one that needs finishing...
(http://s8.postimg.org/oyzdsf8a9/View_image_screenshot_85.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/oyzdsf8a9/)
Its the Skywalker pan tilt mechanism. Perhaps I'll get that underway again.
That's awesome, cheers!
It looks like there's just one STL that models the complete assembled unit when I open it in netfabb.
Any idea how I get the individual parts to print?
I've uploaded the individual parts, so give it 5 mins and they should appear.
Quote from: krikey on July 16, 2014, 03:15:10 PM
I've uploaded the individual parts, so give it 5 mins and they should appear.
Great, thanks!
Can this new version be bought yet? If so how much?
I'm not printing right now, however, you could ask nicely if someone would print out the plans freely available from thingiverse?
You could upload them to shape ways Neil, I think you get a small cut of each one they print then.
I could, although the price is inhibitive I feel.
Hi guys. I'm assembling mine v5 version and I have some questions. Are those turnigy plush controllers with stock fw good enough, or should I get 12A AfroESC's with SimonK fw already installed ? Also, what motors would you reccomend to get from hobbyking or ebay at lower price range ?
I know that this topic is now really old, but since I uploaded the k-Quad V5 to thingiverse it's still getting downloads currently exceeding 1650 so it certainly seems to be popular, despite the fact that Carbon Fibre frames are as cheap as chips.
I'm considering upgrading the frame design but wondered if anyone would still consider buying a plastic frame?
People buy the fossil frames and they are made of plastic. ;D
I think it would be. After all you can print a few spare arms to carry with you for pennies really.
If you've got a printer and want to get into mini quads it's a good cheap way to learn. Then you could progress onto a
carbon fibre all singing jobbie.
Cheaper than a Fossil frame too. ;D
Regards, Mark